Prospect Info: Sean Farrell, C/LW, 124th Overall

Hutson is the best defenceman in college right now, might win the hobey baker as a freshman (Farrell was a nominee last year and might be this year too).

I don’t really know what it takes to be in your top 4 lol but i guess we see things differently, yes.

Hutson is absolutely not even close to being the best dman in college hockey.......I know you love to make absolute judgments based on offensive stats but Luke Hughes is on another level altogether as a dman and Ceulemans is also currently better as an all around dman.. Hutson is and likely always will be a poor defender and you can't just dismiss that fact in favour of his offensive stats.
 
Hutson is absolutely not even close to being the best dman in college hockey.......I know you love to make absolute judgments based on offensive stats but Luke Hughes is on another level altogether as a dman and Ceulemans is also currently better as an all around dman.. Hutson is and likely always will be a poor defender and you can't just dismiss that fact in favour of his offensive stats.

Hughes plays on an absolutely stacked Michigan team. Put Hutson on the same team and their offensive production become a comparison between prime Karlsson and OEL.

I'd take the offensive driver over the all-around guy any day of the week.
 
Hutson is absolutely not even close to being the best dman in college hockey.......I know you love to make absolute judgments based on offensive stats but Luke Hughes is on another level altogether as a dman and Ceulemans is also currently better as an all around dman.. Hutson is and likely always will be a poor defender and you can't just dismiss that fact in favour of his offensive stats.

Have you ever watched him play or you just assume he’s a bad defender because he’s smaller?
 
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Hughes plays on an absolutely stacked Michigan team. Put Hutson on the same team and their offensive production become a comparison between prime Karlsson and OEL.

I'd take the offensive driver over the all-around guy any day of the week.

Zero GM's would agree with you on this

Have you ever watched him play or you just assume he’s a bad defender because he’s smaller?

Yes and he is a poor defender. He competes and battles but he loses far too many and his pivots are bad so he loses body position and gets blown by too easily
 
No, he is not a poor defender. I’ve been watching him every week for more than a year.
Even if he is, who cares? Hutson is breaking records with his unique approach to the game. We don't want him to be Hal Gill, we want him to be dominant offensively. We already got good defenders in Guhle and Xhekaj. An uber-talented PP specialist is just what the doctor ordered for this team.
 
Even if he is, who cares? Hutson is breaking records with his unique approach to the game. We don't want him to be Hal Gill, we want him to be dominant offensively. We already got good defenders in Guhle and Xhekaj. An uber-talented PP specialist is just what the doctor ordered for this team.

I’m not asking him to be the best defender either lol but i’m just saying what i see of him and someone saying he is bad is just a lie.

And yes you’re right, he is very unique. Fascinating to watch him on the ice.
 
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Hutson is absolutely not even close to being the best dman in college hockey.......I know you love to make absolute judgments based on offensive stats but Luke Hughes is on another level altogether as a dman and Ceulemans is also currently better as an all around dman.. Hutson is and likely always will be a poor defender and you can't just dismiss that fact in favour of his offensive stats.

I wouldn't bet against Hutson. He's extremely determined, won an award at the NHL draft for the player that "best exemplifies commitment to excellence through strength of character, competitiveness and athleticism." And now that we have a competent skills coach and a management team that values development, I'd be rooting for him to reach his potential.
 
Hutson is absolutely not even close to being the best dman in college hockey.......I know you love to make absolute judgments based on offensive stats but Luke Hughes is on another level altogether as a dman and Ceulemans is also currently better as an all around dman.. Hutson is and likely always will be a poor defender and you can't just dismiss that fact in favour of his offensive stats.
Actually, most say Hutson, is actually good defensively, don't know where you take your info that he's poor defensively.
 
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Actually, most say Hutson, is actually good defensively, don't know where you take your info that he's poor defensively.

He is not "good" defensively and nobody with any credibility or without obvious bias has said that he is. There is always a caveat that is relative to expectations for a tiny, weak dman who struggles mightily with his pivots. Much like the "he moves well for a big man" caveat, Lane get's the "defends well for a little guy" caveat.......neither example actually means that the big guy is a good skater relative to the average skater nor does the latter statement infer that the little guy is a good defender relative to the average defender. It takes some serious confirmation bias to overlook the obvious truth in these statements.

To be clear, much of defending is effort and IQ based and he is aces in both categories.....unfortunately he has enormous physical hurdles that he needs to clear in order to be able to defend at the next level. He still gets beat in an ugly fashion too often and loses too many battles relative to other top D prospects his age. Who knows, he may dramatically improve his skating and have an unlikely growth spurt that could push him to a more palatable level of defending but for the here and now......he would get embarrassed in the NHL and people need to understand that before referring to him as an elite D prospect and as being on a potentially Makar level development path.

I am content to watch him display his offensive wizardry and be happy with him as a late 2nd round swing for the fences but he is doing exactly whet I thought he would do this year as did many other scouts....he hasn't really begun to answer the real questions yet and that will take time and patience. So let's keep it in our pants and act like we know something about hockey people as the hyperbolic drivel is just silly at this point.
 
He is not "good" defensively and nobody with any credibility or without obvious bias has said that he is. There is always a caveat that is relative to expectations for a tiny, weak dman who struggles mightily with his pivots. Much like the "he moves well for a big man" caveat, Lane get's the "defends well for a little guy" caveat.......neither example actually means that the big guy is a good skater relative to the average skater nor does the latter statement infer that the little guy is a good defender relative to the average defender. It takes some serious confirmation bias to overlook the obvious truth in these statements.

To be clear, much of defending is effort and IQ based and he is aces in both categories.....unfortunately he has enormous physical hurdles that he needs to clear in order to be able to defend at the next level. He still gets beat in an ugly fashion too often and loses too many battles relative to other top D prospects his age. Who knows, he may dramatically improve his skating and have an unlikely growth spurt that could push him to a more palatable level of defending but for the here and now......he would get embarrassed in the NHL and people need to understand that before referring to him as an elite D prospect and as being on a potentially Makar level development path.

I am content to watch him display his offensive wizardry and be happy with him as a late 2nd round swing for the fences but he is doing exactly whet I thought he would do this year as did many other scouts....he hasn't really begun to answer the real questions yet and that will take time and patience. So let's keep it in our pants and act like we know something about hockey people as the hyperbolic drivel is just silly at this point.
He's alright defensively IMO, which is a pretty good sign at 18 in the NCAA.

I agree with you that he's not the best dman. Maybe next season or the one after, but this year Hughes is the clear top dman and with good reasons. Hughes is going to be terrific.
 
He's alright defensively IMO, which is a pretty good sign at 18 in the NCAA.

I agree with you that he's not the best dman. Maybe next season or the one after, but this year Hughes is the clear top dman and with good reasons. Hughes is going to be terrific.

Agreed, HuGo would trade Lane for Luke Hughes in a nano second, they are on entirely different tiers.

I do stand by my assertion that Hutson is not a good defender as his pivots and backskating are really bad which is compounded by his tiny reach and egregious lack of strength. His anticipation and tenacity are great and allow him to defend against the many poor opponents that he faces but he has been absolutely awful on too many plays where he is beat by pure speed and strength. This would be exploited to the enth degree at the next level and everyone would be blowing past him with ease. He is 18 and has a ton of time to improve so no reason to get too worried.....just trying to inject some reality into bubble of bliss that many posters are blindly engulfed in.

Anyways......back to Farrell who also has me guessing as to how he will turn out.
 
Would love Farrell to become a mainstay on the PK and bring some offense there. How good is breakaway speed is? Could be a nice complement to the generic PKers a la Dvorak/Evans
 

Watching these highlights- Farrell reminds me of Johnny Gaudreau with the puck on this stick. Obviously, they are the same size, LH, LWers, but I notice similarities in the way they skate and handle the puck too.

Sounds like Farrell could be better defensively though and his shot looks better too, but hard to say if he'll beat NHL goalies the same way. This guy better sign with Montreal.
 
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He's alright defensively IMO, which is a pretty good sign at 18 in the NCAA.

I agree with you that he's not the best dman. Maybe next season or the one after, but this year Hughes is the clear top dman and with good reasons. Hughes is going to be terrific.
That's what said, he's good or alright, but not the best, he's very good with his stick, he doesn't need to be 6'4" to be good defensively.
 
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I’m not asking him to be the best defender either lol but i’m just saying what i see of him and someone saying he is bad is just a lie.

And yes you’re right, he is very unique. Fascinating to watch him on the ice.
Pk Subban is the last time I heard anyone say that (While he was in ohl/Hamilton)
 
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