Confirmed with Link: Schmid and Holtz traded to VGK for Paul Cotter and 2025 3rd rounder

[RSeen]

I also think equivalent player to Cotter gets about $1M more on the market so this should help us from a cap perspective the next two years.

 

[Unknown Caller]

if this tells us anything, Fitz is just about ready to go off in FA.

How? They both made like $0.

 

[Billdo]

That's a piss poor return for a 7th overall pick but it addresses a need. Kinda think we could've managed to NOT move Holtz for a 4C though especially with Schmid added in.

 

[britdevil]

Fitz is drunk. Has to be.

 

[JimEIV]

We turned a #7 overall and the hero goalie of the Ranger series into a 4th liner.

Cool.

 

[PizzaAndPucks]

Sad to see Schmid go. He still has plenty of time to turn out to be a good goalie. I guess having Poulter and his impressive AHL rookie stats is a consolation... He's someone to certainly watch this upcoming season.

 

[Emperoreddy]

It sucks when the key to a deal is a very low contract but that is what is going on here, Cotter is signed for 2 years at league minimum when he is clearly much better than that. The Devils paid Schmid and Holtz to get a pick but also to not have to try to outbid the 20 teams for Yakov Trenin on Monday.

Does feel like Fitz plans to spend a lot of money on Monday.

 

[Triumph]

We really don't have the money for it besides what we've heard already. Pesce, Dillon and you have enough left for a middle six guy who will command a multi year deal (or two guys trying to rebuild value)

They still have ~$10M after signing those two, and they need 2 more forwards + Mercer. So yeah, there's money.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807120450859729337

Pretty much this, our bottom 6 reeked. The trade sucks but in the sense of asset management, I think the Devils bundled Holtz to the point where this type of trade happens and as much as we loved Schmid for the heroics in 2023 playoffs, it's clear his time was up also with the drafted goalies and the AHL guys already there. These guys were on the outs but there had to be better out there than a bottom 6 C.

 

[britdevil]

We turned a #7 overall and the hero goalie of the Ranger series into a 4th liner.

Cool.

Jim, brother, I am speechless. This is a joke right?

 

[Comparison Ford]

How? They both made like $0.

not talking money, just in team philosophy/roster building. he seems to have a desire to completely overhaul the philosophy to not have any passengers. looking at this in a positive way, I like the boldness.

 

[Darkauron]

Good trade. Holtz had no future here and would not compliment our lineup as well and didnt have much value.

Catton is a good big center/winger that is still young that hits and can play up and down the lineup.

 

[Forge]

They still have ~$10M after signing those two, and they need 2 more forwards + Mercer. So yeah, there's money.

So they have 6 million roughly. So basically a middle six player who is good enough to command a multi year deal or a couple of buy lows

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

They still have ~$10M after signing those two, and they need 2 more forwards + Mercer. So yeah, there's money.

Yeah they'll get a top 6 guy, wonder if they swing for Marchessault or go for like a Foegle/Sprong/ types

 

[Captain3rdLine]

 

[JasonDemersWasOkay]

There’s gotta be some coaching or locker room issues with holtz. Even after Lindy Fitzgerald couldn’t bring himself to say anything positive about him. Terrible asset management

 

[Captain3rdLine]

Yeah they'll get a top 6 guy, wonder if they swing for Marchessault or go for like a Foegle/Sprong/ types

Debrusk. Maybe Stephenson if they have enough cap

 

[Devil X]

Seems like the Devils gave up the 2 most valuable pieces in a 4 part trade. Not ideal.

I think valuable is a relative term.

Holtz wasnt asked for in the two must significant trades we have made in recent years. Im guess Mr Holtz doesnt have the value we think he does around the NHL.

Schmid I have no idea.

 

[Oneiro]

Cotter-Lazar-Bastian seems like a good pain in the ass line.

 

[Triumph]

From Vegas perspective this might be more of a trade for Schmid and than Holtz considering they moved out Thompson to save a little cap space.

Absolutely, but I think because Vegas have raided their young players/prospects so hard since their inception, betting on Holtz's upside makes sense for them. Again, it would not surprise me if Holtz is not in the NHL in 2 years, but it also wouldn't shock me for him to be a 25 goal scorer (if he figures it out).

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

The 3rd round pick is flippable too. We have some extras to burn. Someone like Colton…

 

[hidek91]

Holtz has no value. They tried to include him in the Timo trade and the Sharks didn't want him.

They tried again in the Markstrom trade and Calgary didn't want him

Source?

 

[Devils Trap]

There’s gotta be some coaching or locker room issues with holtz. Even after Lindy Fitzgerald couldn’t bring himself to say anything positive about him. Terrible asset management

I dont know how to word this nicely, from what Ive been told hes just.... dumb.

 

[captainscott2]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807119094304383132

233 hits. Holtz sucked and didn’t have a role here. Moving on.

he was never given any rope under ruff... this is gonna be a bad trade Holtz is going to be a goal scorer in this league is my opinion.. i don't grade trades until i know what we got back. but if all we got back was a fourth line center this trade stinks.

 

[Whaddagoal]

We turned a #7 overall and the hero goalie of the Ranger series into a 4th liner.

Cool.

Really though Schmid earned a lot more team respect than we were giving him.

That performance was unforgettable.

Would have parted with Daws before Schmid. I know he struggled last year, but who the hell didn't.

I have no problem getting Paul cotter (MM replacement) but couldn't we have gotten him for holtz and a pick instead of giving up on Schmid.