Post-Game Talk: SCF = Shitty Cup Final

[Oilslick941611]

Can't win a cup with a sub .900 goalie, not happening.

Thats not true, its possible.

What's not possible is winning when scoring only 1 goal.

 

[McBigYak]

Meh, the game was already lost and the team needed to send a physical message. I don't hate what Leon did.

If he's suspended and nothing comes of Bouchard getting choked out without even a penalty, that just confirms the double standard the league and its officials are putting on this series.

It was 2-1? How was the game lost? I get they were being outplayed but you get once bounce and its a tie game.

 

[Duke74]

View attachment 881535

Lmao thanks Leo

He definitely has a way of putting his foot in his mouth.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

It was 2-1? How was the game lost? I get they were being outplayed but you get once bounce and its a tie game.

They weren't scoring the tying goal. They basically knew that once the Panthers went ahead the game was finished.

 

[McBigYak]

They weren't scoring the tying goal. They basically knew that once the Panthers went ahead the game was finished.

You legit think this is the attitude the team has? You think they're somehow in the SCF thinking the game is toast when they're down 2-1?

These are professional athletes who have made it to the highest stage possible. They aren't a nonsensical, emotional, and dramatic fanbase sitting on their couch watching the game.

Give me a break. It was a moronic penalty in a game that was absolutely winnable.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

You legit think this is the attitude the team has? You think they're somehow in the SCF thinking the game is toast when they're down 2-1?

These are professional athletes who have made it to the highest stage possible. They aren't a nonsensical, emotional, and dramatic fanbase sitting on their couch watching the game.

Give me a break. It was a moronic penalty in a game that was absolutely winnable.

The way they played the game told me they didn't have what it took to win the game. The Panthers smelled blood the entire game and despite being gifted a freebie goal the Oilers were no threat whatsoever.

 

[BlackDogg]

They weren't scoring the tying goal. They basically knew that once the Panthers went ahead the game was finished.

I turned it off and never watched another minute after Florida tied it. You could just tell

 

[Duke74]

Drai's best attribute is getting lost on the ice, flaring into his office. At 5X5 he has the same ability to get lost in his office, standing, waiting for someone to do something.

Hey, at least McDavid looks like he got his speed back, he was flying around the edges tonight.

Florida adjusted by targeting our lack of backchecking. It writes itself.


Look in the mirror time for the stars imo. They say they want it, but do they wants it as much. Drai is 0 mins in front of the net in 120 mins of finals.

It's so f***ing predictable that a certain select handful of posters have reverted back to their old habits of shitting on Draisaitl when EVERYBODY is struggling to generate offense.

McDavid - 1 assist
Bouchard - 1 assist
Hyman - 0 points
Nuge - 0 points
Kane - 0 points
Everyone else (outside of Ekholm) - 0 points

But hey, it's a thing to shit on Draisaitl.

Leon, we don't give a remote f*** about your broken finger and whatever abdominal injury you have going on and whatever other undisclosed issues you have. We need you to power through the pain and put up five points a game next to Holloway, McLeod, Perry, and whatever other f***ing scraps you're stuck with while McDavid feasts on the riches of linemates.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

I turned it off and never watched another minute after Florida tied it. You could just tell

Lol turned the game off only to constantly click refresh on the score I bet.

 

[foshizzle]

Oilers had to "overpay" because Anaheim need to retain salary on Henrique

False. Every team that made a trade required the team they dealt with to retain. Every team. Listen to Frank on Stauffer’s show about mid way through the Vancouver series- he lists trades other teams made for a like player (as Henrique) with retention. No team gave up a 1st.

 

[cruisecity]

The Florida team all talk about how when Maurice came in he forced them to change how they play. Barkov interview about how he had to stop looking at stats because of how his plummeted under Maurice. In exchange, every single one of their forwards backchecks harder than they do up the ice. It's exactly like Las Vegas. Full commitment from every player to work as hard as possible. Hard ass coaches, hard ass players. No exceptions.

Contrast to our team. Vancouver plays a similar game with like one passenger in Pettersson who was ripped to shreds. Vancouver has taken the Vegas/Florida style of play but they have less skill. Similar success.

We are finally put up against a team like Vegas in these playoffs and it shows again. Outworked by a deep group who are all committed to playing the right way. Watch what happens when Florida hangs onto pucks up the ice, all of our players float towards them. Night and day difference.

This will be a learning experience for the group, and Knoblauch better make sure next season every single f***ing player in this group learns to play defensively to the standard Florida is. No exceptions. Totally outclassed.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

False. Every team that made a trade required the team they dealt with to retain. Every team. Listen to Frank on Stauffer’s show about mid way through the Vancouver series- he lists trades other teams made for a like player (as Henrique) with retention. No team gave up a 1st.

and were those teams up against the salary cap?

 

[foshizzle]

The Oilers need to figure out the PP. Florida started their after whistle crap after figuring out the Oilers can’t score on the PP.

and were those teams up against the salary cap?

Yes. Every team in the playoffs was up against the cap.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

The Oilers need to figure out the PP. Florida started their after whistle crap after figuring out the Oilers can’t score on the PP.

Bingo. They are getting dirtier and dirtier because they realized they can shut down our PP. Start scoring on the PP and it will force Florida to get less aggressive.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Yes. Every team in the playoffs was up against the cap.

which teams are you specifically talking about?

 

[foshizzle]

which teams are you specifically talking about?

Let’s start with New York. Alex Wennberg. Are you being deliberately obtuse?

 

[K1984]

The Oilers need to figure out the PP. Florida started their after whistle crap after figuring out the Oilers can’t score on the PP.

Here's where I see the problems on the PK:

- We hold the puck at the point waaaay too long and they are bringing pressure on both point men. Quite often we'll have the puck point, they'll send two checkers aggressively to cover, and we STILL sit on it. They have to get the puck off the point faster because there are lanes open low. They are playing extremely aggressive which means we have to get the puck moving, but we just won't.

- Shoot. So obvious, but f***ing shoot. I thought our first two power plays weren't that bad fundamentally, but refusing to shoot the puck took away any chance of scoring.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Here's where I see the problems on the PK:

- We hold the puck at the point waaaay too long and they are bringing pressure on both point men. Quite often we'll have the puck point, they'll send two checkers aggressively to cover, and we STILL sit on it. They have to get the puck off the point faster because there are lanes open low. They are playing extremely aggressive which means we have to get the puck moving, but we just won't.

- Shoot. So obvious, but f***ing shoot. I thought our first two power plays weren't that bad fundamentally, but refusing to shoot the puck took away any chance of scoring.

Florida is aggressive and it leaves players wide open. The Oilers have even gotten it to the wide open player at times but they just force a pass and it turns into nothing.

So frustrating. Move the puck quickly and shoot if you have a lane.

 

[Pavel10]

It's so f***ing predictable that a certain select handful of posters have reverted back to their old habits of shitting on Draisaitl when EVERYBODY is struggling to generate offense.

McDavid - 1 assist
Bouchard - 1 assist
Hyman - 0 points
Nuge - 0 points
Kane - 0 points
Everyone else (outside of Ekholm) - 0 points

But hey, it's a thing to shit on Draisaitl.

Leon, we don't give a remote f*** about your broken finger and whatever abdominal injury you have going on and whatever other undisclosed issues you have. We need you to power through the pain and put up five points a game next to Holloway, McLeod, Perry, and whatever other f***ing scraps you're stuck with while McDavid feasts on the riches of linemates.

Kane is injured and it speaks to management's ineptitude that he wasn't ltird earlier in the year and 5 million wasn't utilized.

 

[Dynamic]

Dumb as rocks? Selfish? Barkov to the point had been the whole story in the series, best player in both games. Drai takes him out, basically what 50posters here say we have to do, then somebody does it and public enemy number 1. Sometimes you lose the battle to win the War. Neither Drai or McD have been as good as Barkov in the series as sad as that is. Barkov now might miss game 3.

Look we didn't even score a 2nd goal and frankly we weren't even that close. We probably lose game 2 regardless. There were 9mins left and Florida playing decently with the lead. Basically anybody else finishes that hit on Barkov and the board says "finally". But Leon does it so f*** him. You go to the extent of saying we should get rid of him.

McD is playing on a line with two star wingers, all the time. McD also gets the Booch/Ekholm top pair almost all the time. Drai is getting developing Holloway and return from injuries henrique and whatever shit pair we have left. It isn't the best of worlds for Drai is it?

Isn't McD supposed to be the best player on Earth? But the main critique lands on Drai, like clockwork. McD f***ed up royally just 5mins into this series givng up a goal and he's captain, doing that in game 1 of a SC series.

Drai needs to focus on what he can control. You’re trying to deflect a bit while ignoring some very obvious flaws that even Drai knows he needs to get better at. Drai can control the dangerous turnovers he his giving up multiple times a game. He can control himself taking penalties late in a game down by a goal. Yes they didn’t look like they were going to tie it but you can’t go down two, and Drai enabled that.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Let’s start with New York. Alex Wennberg. Are you being deliberately obtuse?

cool, he scored 1 playoff goal
amazing TDL deal

 

[K1984]

Florida is aggressive and it leaves players wide open. The Oilers have even gotten it to the wide open player at times but they just force a pass and it turns into nothing.

So frustrating. Move the puck quickly and shoot if you have a lane.

Example A was at the end of what I think was the first PP. Puck went high, they sent guys, we actually moved it low quick, and there was a clean 3 on 1 with 29, 97, 93. Rather than shoot or quickly move it, 29 sits on it, defender gets in position, Leon still tries to pass through a defender, puck is tipped away.

Almost had an aneurysm after that one I think.

 

[DaGap]

I mean Oilers only have a few plays on the PP. Not hard to stop it when its literally only composed of a few passes

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

One bad game and I feel the sky is falling around here as usual.

They generated plenty last game but couldn't solve Bob, partially because of what seemed like a botched scouting job.

Sure, you get to the SCF and have one goal through the first couple of games, that doesn't look good.

But Florida looked flat in game 1 and turned it around for game 2. No reason the Oilers can't do the same for game 3, especially if we actually get to use everyone in the lineup this time.

Call it like I see it. As I posted after game 1 they played a strong road game and were in a winnable game. Last night they clutched on to a 1 goal game that slipped away under heavy, sustained pressure while generating like 10 shots after two periods. They had PP opportunities but their greatest weapon has been shutout this series.

As McDavid has said twice now, he feels their opponent has elevated their game when needed while his team has not. The hard results of 1 goal (by a defenseman) reinforces their captain's opinion of the series so far.

I'm realistic about what I watch and perceive. Unfortunately game 2 was a slip back from a really solid first game. Going 0-2 is historically very difficult to overcome ... especially if a team can't score. Let's see what they have in game 3, at home.

 

[Frank the Tank]

This really comes down to a few things that have consistently been a issue for this team:

1. Over passing, it kills any form of opportunity that that may have. It might not be a grade A chance but a shot on net or through traffic is better than a cross crease pass that is tipped away.

2. Finishing, there have been a few near tap ins and they have either missed them or breakaways that didn't go their way. Its a serious issue as we only have 1 goal in the 2 games, I also don't buy into Bob being unbeatable. The PP has been atrocious lately and this goes back to the last 3 games of the Canucks series to now, they are 5/28 (17.9%). If you take away the last 2 games of the Stars series they are 1/23 (4.3%). In the last 11 games they have only scored a PP goal/s in 3 of them, its not good enough. This team lives off the PP momentum, and now that isn't even reliable to get them back in a game.

3. Clearing our zone, Bouchard gave them a gift last night and its been a issue in most of the series, the Stars system seemed to allow us to get out easier, Florida is similar to Vancouver.

The teams willingness to battle at times can be questioned, but I suspect some injuries play into that for some.

Hopefully some home town cheers get them going, and maybe they took a pound of flesh.

I know the book on Bobrovsky is to get the puck up on a breakaway. I just don't how the hell McDavid was supposed to lift the puck when his hands are being hooked 3 times by Tkachuk (and there was no call).