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SCF Game #2, KINGS(3 vs. RANGERS(2 - 6/7/14, 2OT Winner 5-4

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TonySCV said:
First off, it should be reviewable, but before it can be, the rule has to be more black or white than the rule is today - which covers multiple pages in the rule book. Throw the officials a clarity bone.

They will likely have to go to the international tournament rule re: skates or sticks in the blue paint if the NHL makes goalie interference reviewable, meaning no skate or stick of the attacking team can enter the blue paint without the puck at any time. The only exception is if a defender intentionally pushes an attacking player in that area, but then you get back to the gray area situation we had last game.

I don't think the goal should have counted, but allowing review with the current convoluted rule would mean one subjective call could be overturned by another, and that would be worse than what we have today, not better.

Reviewable plays have to involve black or white decisions or you get more "distinct kicking motion" bull**** reviews. Puck over glass? Reviewable. Puck hitting netting? Reviewable. Goalie interference? Only if the rule is changed to be definitive.
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The puck over the glass "so called" miss call is getting some traction today. The replays are inconclusive, and the guy closest with the best view was the ref who was emphatic that it went off of something. Craig Button almost blew a gasket over this today .
 
kingsfan28 said:
The puck over the glass "so called" miss call is getting some traction today. The replays are inconclusive, and the guy closest with the best view was the ref who was emphatic that it went off of something. Craig Button almost blew a gasket over this today .
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I wish Button had blown a gasket. That would have been a win. Can't stand the guy. Worse than Roenick and that's saying something.
 
Putting this gif here.
It may have been posted elsewhere but I missed it
Decide for yourselves if King was pushed
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He (King) was pushed before the puck got there, but my main issue with the argument that NYR fans are making is that Dwight had no where to go as the puck was on its way because McDonagh was on top of him pushing him toward the crease.
 
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KopitarFAN said:
He was pushed before the puck got there, but my main issue with the argument that NYR fans are making is that Dwight had no where to go as the puck was on its way because McDonagh was on top of him pushing him toward the crease.
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King was completely outside the paint, and on a trajectory that would have kept him completely outside the paint, until McDoofus pushed him. In the end, doesn't matter. Cry those tears NY, they're delicious.
 
Bandit said:
King was completely outside the paint, and on a trajectory that would have kept him completely outside the paint, until McDoofus pushed him. In the end, doesn't matter. Cry those tears NY, they're delicious.
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That's what i'm saying. By "he" i meant King, not Lundy. Sorry that wasn't clear.
 
onlyalad said:
Putting this gif here.
It may have been posted elsewhere but I missed it
Decide for yourselves if King was pushed
SomberRealisticHammerkop.gif
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Hes not only pushed in hes also trying to leave, you can see him trying to get out of the crease before hes tripped.
 
KingsKnight said:
All this fuss over a goal that wasn't even a tying or game winning goal.
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Its not like the Kings have some sort of history of overcoming deficits this post season or anything, that one goal decided the entire game.
 
It's only a controversy because it's New York and they keep *****ing about it. Game's over. That's not why they lost.
 
Isn't it just awesome to have an owner willing to spend money to pay off the refs? :naughty:
 
Ranger fan here. At the end of the day, kings win 5-4 in OT, coming back from 2-0 deficit. Officials are not going to reverse their calls after the fact, all have to live with the outcome, no matter what that may be. I think its just eating us that almost every series the rangers have played, there has been a call or non-call that has effected the outcome of the game. The same **** happened I the pens rangers series...Malkin jumped on lundqvist's glove as a puck goes past him, no interference. A year or two ago, Neil on ottowa kicks the puck in, they call it a good goal...

High sticks, trips, hooking, shooting puck over glass...they get missed on both sides. Hey, I'll admit to the diving by hank and POS Nash last night...again bad officiating if you may. But we as ranger fans had a lot to feel good before that third one. But again, nothing can be done and *****ing won't do anything. I think you guys would equally feel the same way if the officials gave a bogus goal to the rangers when the kings were winning and it changed the momentum.

Someone wrote that rangers fans don't give credit to any other player or team...totally not true. I don't speak for the entire fanbase, but I can safety say we all knew LA was going to be a SOB to try and win against, as we see being proven....howwevr I think NY is a much better team than the media and LA fans want to credit them for. But honestly, neither team is playing that great... Especially both goalies who are known to be the best in the league.

Till game 3 gentlemen.
 
ReolverHF said:
Ranger fan here. At the end of the day, kings win 5-4 in OT, coming back from 2-0 deficit. Officials are not going to reverse their calls after the fact, all have to live with the outcome, no matter what that may be. I think its just eating us that almost every series the rangers have played, there has been a call or non-call that has effected the outcome of the game. The same **** happened I the pens rangers series...Malkin jumped on lundqvist's glove as a puck goes past him, no interference. A year or two ago, Neil on ottowa kicks the puck in, they call it a good goal...

High sticks, trips, hooking, shooting puck over glass...they get missed on both sides. Hey, I'll admit to the diving by hank and POS Nash last night...again bad officiating if you may. But we as ranger fans had a lot to feel good before that third one. But again, nothing can be done and *****ing won't do anything. I think you guys would equally feel the same way if the officials gave a bogus goal to the rangers when the kings were winning and it changed the momentum.

Someone wrote that rangers fans don't give credit to any other player or team...totally not true. I don't speak for the entire fanbase, but I can safety say we all knew LA was going to be a SOB to try and win against, as we see being proven....howwevr I think NY is a much better team than the media and LA fans want to credit them for. But honestly, neither team is playing that great... Especially both goalies who are known to be the best in the league.

Till game 3 gentlemen.
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I take it you didn't see the DET goal that cost the Kings a game and two points.

Or the Clowe playing the puck from the bench to stop a break away. Kings fan's on this board took those on the chin and sucked it up.

Sorry not going to get any sympathy from me missed calls. They happen and sometimes they change games. It's hockey.
 
ReolverHF said:
Ranger fan here. At the end of the day, kings win 5-4 in OT, coming back from 2-0 deficit. Officials are not going to reverse their calls after the fact, all have to live with the outcome, no matter what that may be. I think its just eating us that almost every series the rangers have played, there has been a call or non-call that has effected the outcome of the game. The same **** happened I the pens rangers series...Malkin jumped on lundqvist's glove as a puck goes past him, no interference. A year or two ago, Neil on ottowa kicks the puck in, they call it a good goal...

High sticks, trips, hooking, shooting puck over glass...they get missed on both sides. Hey, I'll admit to the diving by hank and POS Nash last night...again bad officiating if you may. But we as ranger fans had a lot to feel good before that third one. But again, nothing can be done and *****ing won't do anything. I think you guys would equally feel the same way if the officials gave a bogus goal to the rangers when the kings were winning and it changed the momentum.

Someone wrote that rangers fans don't give credit to any other player or team...totally not true. I don't speak for the entire fanbase, but I can safety say we all knew LA was going to be a SOB to try and win against, as we see being proven....howwevr I think NY is a much better team than the media and LA fans want to credit them for. But honestly, neither team is playing that great... Especially both goalies who are known to be the best in the league.

Till game 3 gentlemen.
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I don't often go to opposing boards, but because I had read so much negativity regarding you guys, I decided to go check it out myself. What I found out was that you guys need to stop playing the victims game. Every other post in the PGT seem to be blaming the refs for the game. Absolutely pathetic!

Believe it or not, you don't get to the stanley cup finals without getting a break here or a call of your own. Even now, in your post, large portion of it has to do with blaming the ref and not getting the call. Get over it!
 
I'm hoping these guys can close this series out sooner than later. The longer this drags out, the odds of them winning decreases. I think they're too banged up/fatigued to have this go 7 games. Just win one in NY and they should be OK. They're ****ed if the Rags tie this up 2-2. I'm hoping this is like a repeat when they played NJ in 2012 and won both Game 1 & 2 in OT.

There's only so many times a team can play with fire coming back from behind so often before it comes back to bite them. Its almost like its part of their game plan now. At least it doesn't seem to phase em, because it looks like they've grown accustomed to trailing...
 
I really couldn't care less about NYR's crying over King. Anyone remember last year when the Blues/Sharks came out in the media and said they were going to go after Quick... then went after Quick in the games... and there weren't any calls... well except the one where Quick also got called for embellishment when he got a stick jammed in his throat? Goalies need to be able to fight through the BS and stay focused.

That and NYR isn't in the finals without running Price. It was one goal not like Lunqvist was knocked out for the series. I hope the Rangers players are feeling cheated and use it as an excuse to lose.

:laugh: No quarter given in the playoffs.
 
Black1963 said:
I don't often go to opposing boards, but because I had read so much negativity regarding you guys, I decided to go check it out myself. What I found out was that you guys need to stop playing the victims game. Every other post in the PGT seem to be blaming the refs for the game. Absolutely pathetic!

Believe it or not, you don't get to the stanley cup finals without getting a break here or a call of your own. Even now, in your post, large portion of it has to do with blaming the ref and not getting the call. Get over it!
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I think more what I was getting at was LA fans not understanding why NY fans are putting up such a stink about it..every year having a "here we go again" moment. But, yeah I understand and agree, a winner will overcome **** that comes their way. I'm honestly more mad about the 4th LA goal where the rangers fell apart ...than what my original post would suggest. Laters.

Edit: I Blame the rangers for the loss, they could have won with the remaining time or with a good bounce in OT where it was 50:50 mostly. I just wish the refs wouldn't have influence....thats for either team. Part of the excitement is the uncertainty. But seems like you guys are sick of me already, so I'll stop :)
 
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ReolverHF said:
I think more what I was getting at was LA fans not understanding why NY fans are putting up such a stink about it..every year having a "here we go again" moment. But, yeah I understand and agree, a winner will overcome **** that comes their way. I'm honestly more mad about the 4th LA goal where the rangers fell apart ...than what my original post would suggest. Laters.

Edit: I Blame the rangers for the loss, they could have won with the remaining time or with a good bounce in OT where it was 50:50 mostly. I just wish the refs wouldn't have influence....thats for either team. Part of the excitement is the uncertainty. But seems like you guys are sick of me already, so I'll stop :)
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Every team goes through this. You are acting as though only Ranger teams experience this.

Did you ever consider that your papers there stir up **** that isn't necessary? Or that there is so much media there that they have to find **** to stir up? Just because Columbus is about 1/10th the size of New York doesn't mean that the Blue Jackets don't suffer some indignation from referees missing a play or two.

I never complain about the refs. Because my feeling is that is all part of the game. I don't consider the team "screwed" because of a blown refs call. The crap all evens out in the end, it really does.

Besides, to be honest, that is such a hazy play for interference I don't blame the ref for not calling it. It could easily be interpreted that King was pushed into Lundy by McD.
 
ReolverHF said:
But, yeah I understand and agree, a winner will overcome **** that comes their way. I'm honestly more mad about the 4th LA goal where the rangers fell apart ...than what my original post would suggest. Laters.
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This kind of stuff, I can respect. But as soon as you mention the "r" word, I pretty much shut you out.
 
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