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I’m concerned for Emily Kaplan’s hair.The two furthest teams from each other......the travel is gonna be killer if it goes a full 7.
Those guys aren't huge minuses because of poor PKing, so how did they outplay them otherwise? Intangibles? Because that seems like a marked disadvantage at 5v5 too.I said they outplayed them. Not outproduced them. You realize hockey consists more of more than Production right? If the Nucks and Stars depth could actually PK maybe they aren’t eliminated right now. Unfortunately they have to make up for both teams mediocre top 6 and need to chip in.
I don't know the about the rest of HFBoards but I didn't think they're the 2013 Oilers, and I hate Oilers teams all the same. That's I lie I hate the successful ones so much moreHere to help!
(now if only the rest of HF didn't think these were the 2013 Oilers anymore lmao)
Ya but you're a former Flames fan. You and Canuck fans can hate us without reason lmaoI don't know the about the rest of HFBoards but I didn't think they're the 2013 Oilers, and I hate Oilers teams all the same. That's I lie I hate the successful ones so much more
Those guys aren't huge minuses because of poor PKing, so how did they outplay them otherwise? Intangibles? Because that seems like a marked disadvantage at 5v5 too.
Seriously? If we can't accept some level of graciousness...what can we expect? Both teams deserve to be here.
It will be a great series. I do not understand this whole victim hood thing going on. It's really weird. Greatest player since TGO/Mario and Drai is pretty damn good too. Long ways to go till G1.
Let's calm down a bit.
I sincerely don't think they're slim.Well, didn't read all those pages so I will screw the conversation with my take. I hope, that Drai from the first two rounds will show up again, McDavid will be McDavid and Skinner is able to channel his Dallas game 5 and 6 self.
Oilers chances may be slim, but I'm confident, they will take them.
Oilers in 6.
So are these guys the quality depth, or not?Cherry picked stats of the 3rd line which has been struggling. But they don’t make up the entirely of depth. The depth of, all of it in total consideration outplayed the depth of the Nucks and Stars EASY.
Part of it. Of course. Or did you not think any depth of the nucks and Stars didn’t also have their struggles?So are these guys the quality depth, or not?
Was this photo created by an AI? Some serious uncanny valley here.
Why don't you give some examples to compare them to? You are saying they outclassed and outplayed them, I am guessing those other guys must be even worse, no?Part of it. Of course. Or did you not think any depth of the nucks and Stars didn’t also have their struggles?
you didn't even try to look it up
5v5 data:
PIM Total Penalties Minor Major Misconduct Penalties Drawn TOTAL FLA 146 52 47 0 5 46 TOTAL EDM 137 52 48 1 3 48 Player Team Position GP TOI PIM Total Penalties Minor Major Misconduct Penalties Drawn Jacob Trouba NYR D 16 267.2333 20 10 10 0 0 2 Nikita Zadorov VAN D 13 219.1167 24 8 7 0 1 4 Ryan Suter DAL D 19 318.5833 16 8 8 0 0 1 Dmitry Orlov CAR D 11 211.3 14 7 7 0 0 4 Pierre-Luc Dubois L.A C 5 66.51667 20 6 5 0 1 4 Leon Draisaitl EDM C 18 296.7 12 6 6 0 0 8 Carter Verhaeghe FLA C 17 258.0333 12 6 6 0 0 4 Josh Manson COL D 11 196.8 12 6 6 0 0 2 Barclay Goodrow NYR C 16 161.5167 12 6 6 0 0 0 Charlie Coyle BOS C 13 168.0833 12 6 6 0 0 4 Evander Kane EDM L 18 261.35 23 5 3 1 1 4 Eetu Luostarinen FLA C 17 207.55 20 5 4 0 1 3 Stefan Noesen CAR R 11 81.68333 21 5 3 1 1 5 Pat Maroon BOS L 13 117.05 18 5 4 0 1 1 Gustav Forsling FLA D 17 321 10 5 5 0 0 0 Anton Lundell FLA C 17 226.3 10 5 5 0 0 7 Brett Kulak EDM D 18 283.1167 10 5 5 0 0 5 Mason Marchment DAL L 13 190.9667 10 5 5 0 0 3 Andrei Svechnikov CAR R 11 168.6 10 5 5 0 0 4 Miles Wood COL L 11 133.2833 13 5 4 1 0 2 Matt Rempe NYR C 11 67.28333 10 5 5 0 0 0 Evan Bouchard EDM D 18 353.1167 16 4 3 0 1 4 Braden Schneider NYR D 16 260.4667 16 4 3 0 1 0 Oliver Ekman-Larsson FLA D 17 222.3833 16 4 3 0 1 4 Matt Martin NYI L 3 28.36667 16 4 3 0 1 1 Vincent Trocheck NYR C 16 249.85 8 4 4 0 0 9 Miro Heiskanen DAL D 19 453.8 8 4 4 0 0 5 Dakota Joshua VAN C 13 164.95 8 4 4 0 0 1 Mikko Rantanen COL R 11 211.15 8 4 4 0 0 4 David Pastrnak BOS R 13 196.9667 10 4 4 0 0 4 Adam Fox NYR D 16 272.5 8 4 4 0 0 6 Aaron Ekblad FLA D 17 312.3167 8 4 4 0 0 3 Charlie McAvoy BOS D 13 253.8167 8 4 4 0 0 5 Darnell Nurse EDM D 18 303.5 8 4 4 0 0 0 K'Andre Miller NYR D 16 290.5667 8 4 4 0 0 5 Will Cuylle NYR L 16 178.7833 8 4 4 0 0 4 Brandon Duhaime COL R 11 82.1 8 4 4 0 0 4 Chandler Stephenson VGK C 7 100.9667 8 4 4 0 0 0 Jake Guentzel CAR C 11 172.8 14 3 2 0 1 3 Robert Bortuzzo NYI D 5 60.73333 14 3 2 0 1 0 Tom Wilson WSH R 4 48.2 14 3 2 0 1 1 Dmitry Kulikov FLA D 17 203.5667 14 3 2 0 1 1 Connor McDavid EDM C 18 323.9833 8 3 3 0 0 8 Zach Hyman EDM L 18 302.9667 6 3 3 0 0 4 Alexis Lafrenière NYR L 16 231.5833 6 3 3 0 0 2 Jamie Benn DAL L 19 254.3167 6 3 3 0 0 4 Jack Roslovic NYR C 16 201.0167 6 3 3 0 0 0 Brady Skjei CAR D 11 181.95 6 3 3 0 0 1 Brock Boeser VAN R 12 183.0667 8 3 3 0 0 3 Hampus Lindholm BOS D 13 228.0167 6 3 3 0 0 1 Jordan Martinook CAR L 11 161.4333 6 3 3 0 0 2 Max Domi TOR C 7 99.78333 6 3 3 0 0 2 Brandon Montour FLA D 17 302 6 3 3 0 0 1 Brandon Carlo BOS D 13 201.7333 6 3 3 0 0 0 Quinn Hughes VAN D 13 244.3833 6 3 3 0 0 2 Dylan Holloway EDM L 18 210.85 6 3 3 0 0 3 Mason Lohrei BOS D 11 165.8167 8 3 3 0 0 0 Brad Marchand BOS L 11 142.1333 6 3 3 0 0 3 Matt Duchene DAL C 19 283.4333 6 3 3 0 0 3 Carson Soucy VAN D 12 169.8833 6 3 3 0 0 1 Roope Hintz DAL C 15 194.8 6 3 3 0 0 3 Morgan Geekie BOS C 13 189.65 6 3 3 0 0 1 Pius Suter VAN C 13 169.0333 6 3 3 0 0 1 Kyle Okposo FLA R 11 90.86667 6 3 3 0 0 0 Ian Cole VAN D 13 178.2 6 3 3 0 0 0 Anders Lee NYI L 5 71.86667 6 3 3 0 0 3 Erik Gustafsson NYR D 16 252.5667 6 3 3 0 0 3 Tony DeAngelo CAR D 9 140.95 6 3 3 0 0 0 Mason Appleton WPG C 5 64.1 6 3 3 0 0 1 Ryan Lindgren NYR D 16 256.5667 6 3 3 0 0 0 Filip Hronek VAN D 13 223.7667 6 3 3 0 0 0 Corey Perry EDM R 13 137.6667 6 3 3 0 0 1 Tyler Myers VAN D 12 192.3167 6 3 3 0 0 2 Chris Tanev DAL D 19 374.3667 6 3 3 0 0 0 Colton Sissons NSH C 6 73.15 6 3 3 0 0 1 Teddy Blueger VAN C 13 137.65 6 3 3 0 0 1 Nicholas Paul T.B L 5 64.85 6 3 3 0 0 1 William Carrier VGK L 7 74.36667 6 3 3 0 0 1 Andreas Englund L.A D 5 62.16667 9 3 2 1 0 1 Derek Ryan EDM C 14 102.9 6 3 3 0 0 1 Niko Mikkola FLA D 17 275.75 6 3 3 0 0 0 Logan Stanley WPG D 3 29.9 6 3 3 0 0 1 Ryan McDonagh NSH D 6 112.0333 6 3 3 0 0 0 Nic Dowd WSH C 4 43.65 6 3 3 0 0 2 Caleb Jones COL D 3 32.56667 6 3 3 0 0 0 Sean Walker COL D 11 180.8333 6 3 3 0 0 1 Trent Frederic BOS C 13 159.3833 20 2 0 0 2 1 Nick Cousins FLA C 11 94 20 2 0 0 2 1 Justin Brazeau BOS R 9 93.11667 12 2 1 0 1 0 Vincent Desharnais EDM D 15 212.2167 12 2 1 0 1 3 Ryan Nugent-Hopkins EDM C 18 238.8333 4 2 2 0 0 2 Matthew Tkachuk FLA L 17 229.6167 4 2 2 0 0 6 Aleksander Barkov FLA C 17 245.5167 4 2 2 0 0 6 Artturi Lehkonen COL L 11 175.8833 4 2 2 0 0 0 Pavel Zacha BOS C 13 165.8167 4 2 2 0 0 1 Evgeny Kuznetsov CAR C 10 94.6 4 2 2 0 0 0 J.T. Miller VAN C 13 199.0333 4 2 2 0 0 1 Sam Bennett FLA C 12 154.0333 4 2 2 0 0 4 Adrian Kempe L.A R 5 70.13333 4 2 2 0 0 1 Mathew Barzal NYI C 5 87.75 4 2 2 0 0 1 Quinton Byfield L.A R 5 73.43333 4 2 2 0 0 3 Anze Kopitar L.A C 5 70.61667 4 2 2 0 0 1 Drew Doughty L.A D 5 105.9333 4 2 2 0 0 0 Mattias Ekholm EDM D 18 321.5833 4 2 2 0 0 0 Brenden Dillon WPG D 3 52.5 4 2 2 0 0 2 Esa Lindell DAL D 19 410.2833 4 2 2 0 0 0 Connor Brown EDM R 12 112.6333 4 2 2 0 0 1 Tyler Bertuzzi TOR L 7 104.6667 4 2 2 0 0 4 William Nylander TOR R 4 69.16667 4 2 2 0 0 0 Gabriel Vilardi WPG C 5 66.58333 6 2 2 0 0 1 Jordan Staal CAR C 11 158.7833 4 2 2 0 0 0 Adam Lowry WPG C 5 58.98333 7 2 1 1 0 2 Adam Pelech NYI D 5 95.63333 4 2 2 0 0 1 Alex Wennberg NYR C 16 211.7333 4 2 2 0 0 4 Parker Wotherspoon BOS D 10 142.8833 4 2 2 0 0 2 Joel Kiviranta COL L 8 86.26667 4 2 2 0 0 2 T.J. Oshie WSH R 4 51.1 4 2 2 0 0 1 Joel Edmundson TOR D 7 110.2833 4 2 2 0 0 2 Jake McCabe TOR D 7 118.1 4 2 2 0 0 0 Kevin Stenlund FLA C 17 154.8167 4 2 2 0 0 3 Trevor Moore L.A L 5 70.68333 4 2 2 0 0 0 Ryan McLeod EDM C 17 204.8667 6 2 2 0 0 2 Alexander Alexeyev WSH D 4 64.23333 4 2 2 0 0 1 Jesperi Kotkaniemi CAR C 11 120.1 4 2 2 0 0 5 Alex Pietrangelo VGK D 7 137.9333 4 2 2 0 0 0 Noah Juulsen VAN D 2 21.86667 4 2 2 0 0 0 Nicolas Roy VGK C 7 82.01667 4 2 2 0 0 1 Jeremy Lauzon NSH D 6 96.48333 4 2 2 0 0 2 Noah Dobson NYI D 5 107.3167 4 2 2 0 0 0 Simon Benoit TOR D 7 108.05 4 2 2 0 0 1 Cal Clutterbuck NYI R 5 39.05 10 1 0 0 1 0 Dylan McIlrath WSH D 4 42.7 10 1 0 0 1 0 Vasily Podkolzin VAN R 2 16.96667 10 1 0 0 1 0 Wyatt Johnston DAL C 19 306.1833 2 1 1 0 0 4 Tyler Seguin DAL C 19 266.35 2 1 1 0 0 3 Artemi Panarin NYR L 16 255.5833 2 1 1 0 0 3 Evgenii Dadonov DAL R 19 239.9167 2 1 1 0 0 3 Nathan MacKinnon COL C 11 215.0333 2 1 1 0 0 2 Logan Stankoven DAL C 19 280.05 2 1 1 0 0 3 Sebastian Aho CAR C 11 175.2333 2 1 1 0 0 3 Casey Mittelstadt COL C 11 168.65 2 1 1 0 0 0 Mika Zibanejad NYR C 16 225.8167 2 1 1 0 0 3 Sam Reinhart FLA C 17 250.4667 2 1 1 0 0 3 Devon Toews COL D 10 206.2 2 1 1 0 0 2 Conor Garland VAN R 13 166.5 2 1 1 0 0 4 Andrew Cogliano COL C 11 76.25 2 1 1 0 0 0 Adam Henrique EDM C 10 129.1 2 1 1 0 0 0 Chris Kreider NYR L 16 211.1333 2 1 1 0 0 1 Kyle Connor WPG L 5 78.7 4 1 1 0 0 0 Jake DeBrusk BOS L 13 168.1 2 1 1 0 0 2 Ross Colton COL C 11 131.4167 2 1 1 0 0 3 Joe Pavelski DAL C 19 282.3667 2 1 1 0 0 1 Steven Stamkos T.B C 5 68.15 2 1 1 0 0 2 Jason Zucker NSH L 6 73.03333 2 1 1 0 0 1 Jonathan Marchessault VGK R 7 115.2167 2 1 1 0 0 1 Filip Forsberg NSH L 6 92.75 2 1 1 0 0 4 Jimmy Vesey NYR L 12 115.7 2 1 1 0 0 3 Jaccob Slavin CAR D 11 212.4833 2 1 1 0 0 1 Mattias Janmark EDM C 18 163.6833 2 1 1 0 0 1 Mitch Marner TOR R 7 99.76667 2 1 1 0 0 1 Auston Matthews TOR C 5 72.98333 2 1 1 0 0 2 Sam Steel DAL C 19 217.5333 2 1 1 0 0 2 Martin Fehervary WSH D 4 70.16667 2 1 1 0 0 1 Jack Drury CAR C 11 130.9 2 1 1 0 0 1 Ilya Lyubushkin TOR D 7 106.6333 2 1 1 0 0 2 Matthew Knies TOR L 7 94.41667 2 1 1 0 0 0 Brent Burns CAR D 11 187.8167 2 1 1 0 0 1 Craig Smith DAL C 14 156.7167 2 1 1 0 0 2 Casey Cizikas NYI C 5 73.98333 2 1 1 0 0 0 Nino Niederreiter WPG R 5 56.73333 2 1 1 0 0 2 Phillip Di Giuseppe VAN L 11 103.85 2 1 1 0 0 0 Valeri Nichushkin COL R 8 126.0667 2 1 1 0 0 2 Warren Foegele EDM L 15 157.85 2 1 1 0 0 1 Brayden Point T.B C 5 71.85 2 1 1 0 0 2 Anthony Beauvillier NSH L 6 67.75 2 1 1 0 0 1 Vladislav Gavrikov L.A D 5 82.78333 2 1 1 0 0 0 Brandon Hagel T.B L 5 75.3 2 1 1 0 0 3 Nils Hoglander VAN L 11 105.3167 2 1 1 0 0 3 Ryan Reaves TOR R 5 39.35 2 1 1 0 0 0 John Carlson WSH D 4 74.58333 2 1 1 0 0 0 Roman Josi NSH D 6 115.3 2 1 1 0 0 0 Dylan DeMelo WPG D 5 93.76667 2 1 1 0 0 0 Phillip Danault L.A C 5 69.23333 2 1 1 0 0 1 Vladislav Namestnikov WPG C 4 32.83333 2 1 1 0 0 0 Mark Jankowski NSH C 6 51.48333 2 1 1 0 0 2 Radek Faksa DAL C 8 89.21667 2 1 1 0 0 1 Tyler Motte T.B C 5 38.05 2 1 1 0 0 0 Jonathan Drouin COL L 3 63.33333 2 1 1 0 0 0 Josh Morrissey WPG D 5 96.78333 2 1 1 0 0 2 Kevin Fiala L.A L 5 73 2 1 1 0 0 0 Erik Cernak T.B D 5 83.6 2 1 1 0 0 1 Yakov Trenin COL C 10 86.51667 2 1 1 0 0 1 Matt Roy L.A D 5 82.05 2 1 1 0 0 0 Tanner Jeannot T.B L 4 34.8 2 1 1 0 0 2 Timothy Liljegren TOR D 6 95.5 2 1 1 0 0 0 Neal Pionk WPG D 5 87.78333 2 1 1 0 0 0 Ty Dellandrea DAL C 6 57.73333 2 1 1 0 0 0 Nils Lundkvist DAL D 12 52.18333 2 1 1 0 0 1 David Gustafsson WPG C 4 28.36667 2 1 1 0 0 1 Kyle MacLean NYI C 5 58.58333 5 1 0 1 0 2 Blake Lizotte L.A C 5 41.7 2 1 1 0 0 1 John Beecher BOS C 12 101.7333 2 1 1 0 0 2 Connor McMichael WSH C 4 46.23333 2 1 1 0 0 2 Blake Wheeler NYR R 1 9.3 2 1 1 0 0 0 Jack Johnson COL D 11 147.0167 2 1 1 0 0 2 Max Pacioretty WSH L 4 40.2 2 1 1 0 0 1 Nick Jensen WSH D 1 18.21667 2 1 1 0 0 0 Alex Petrovic DAL D 7 84.18333 2 1 1 0 0 0 Mark Stone VGK R 7 100.4 2 1 1 0 0 1 Tomas Hertl VGK C 7 111.1333 2 1 1 0 0 1 Matt Grzelcyk BOS D 3 50.96667 2 1 1 0 0 0 Hudson Fasching NYI R 4 53.58333 2 1 1 0 0 0 Michael McCarron NSH R 6 68.36667 2 1 1 0 0 1 Brett Pesce CAR D 2 25.5 2 1 1 0 0 1 Anthony Mantha VGK R 3 40.8 2 1 1 0 0 1 Patrick Brown BOS C 1 7.9 2 1 1 0 0 0 Nicolas Aube-Kubel WSH R 3 28.08333 2 1 1 0 0 0 Sam Lafferty VAN C 11 93.41667 2 1 1 0 0 1 Keegan Kolesar VGK R 6 66.2 2 1 1 0 0 0 Beck Malenstyn WSH L 4 34.66667 2 1 1 0 0 2 Andrew Peeke BOS D 6 75.63333 2 1 1 0 0 0 Michael Eyssimont T.B C 5 58.31667 2 1 1 0 0 0 Filip Chytil NYR C 6 72.08333 2 1 1 0 0 1 Nick Perbix T.B D 2 34.51667 2 1 1 0 0 0 Zach Whitecloud VGK D 6 86.4 2 1 1 0 0 1 Rasmus Sandin WSH D 1 19.28333 2 1 1 0 0 0 Jakub Lauko BOS C 5 44.71667 2 1 1 0 0 2 Pontus Holmberg TOR R 7 68.11667 2 1 1 0 0 1 Linus Karlsson VAN C 2 19.2 2 1 1 0 0 1 Maxwell Crozier T.B D 3 41.88333 2 1 1 0 0 0 Mitchell Chaffee T.B R 5 58.73333 2 1 1 0 0 0 Emil Lilleberg T.B D 5 76.71667 2 1 1 0 0 1
The thing is he was also listing guys that are in the pressbox as though he were listing the entire bottom 6.Those guys aren't huge minuses because of poor PKing, so how did they outplay them otherwise? Intangibles? Because that seems like a marked disadvantage at 5v5 too.
Examples require watching the games. Can’t do your homework for you.Why don't you give some examples to compare them to? You are saying they outclassed and outplayed them, I am guessing those other guys must be even worse, no?
This. Both teams earned their golden ticket.Seriously? If we can't accept some level of graciousness...what can we expect? Both teams deserve to be here.
Sounds like those specific examples struggled and were replaced, easy enough to say.Examples require watching the games. Can’t do your homework for you.
ESPN also has the NBA Finals, this is the only reason, that or there would be no national broadcast outside Canada.This. Both teams earned their golden ticket.
It should actually be a fantastic series. Waiting almost a week is almost criminal.
I know there is a concert in Florida Thursday night, but the schedule was announced before the Edmonton-Dallas series ended, so we know that isn't why. Had Dallas won, they would have had home ice, correct?
I probably shouldn't say this, and it certainly doesn't relate to all non-Canadian fans, but sometimes it seems that if fans from Canada, or fans of a Canadian team, show any trace of confidence then it's instantly viewed at as being arrogant.Same here, both sides seem cautiously optimistic from what I've seen. Pretty much what you would expect from fans of teams in the Final.
That’s what depth is. Being able to go down the lineup and find value. So far down they might not have been in the starting lineup for the playoffs.Sounds like those specific examples struggled and were replaced, easy enough to say.
You make a claim then don't want follow up questions, lol, your 5v5 juggernaut has some big minuses.
Sounds like the depth beyond who is playing now, isn't very reliable.That’s what depth is. Being able to go down the lineup and find value. So far down they might not have been in the starting lineup for the playoffs.
Edited my comment to give you examples btw.
dont forget the oilers coach is undefeated in SCF games. Maurice.....isntI sincerely don't think they're slim.
Most of the projections have this as a coin flip, 50/50 series.
Edge Oilers in overall offense, top 6, top pairing, and special teams.
Edge Panthers in overall defense, bottom six, defense group as a whole, and goaltending.