SCF: Florida Panthers vs Edmonton Oilers (Series Tied 3-3) Hold onto your butts, Game 7, Monday 8/24 @ 8pm ET !

[Leonardo87]

**Stanley Cup Final**
Florida Panthers vs Edmonton Oilers

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[Coffey]

that I agree. Neutral zone will be interesting to watch

lol Sure. The new meta against the Oilers is now penetrating the Floridian neutral zone lmao

 

[VancouverJagger]

Vancouver fan cheering on Canada's team..........Go Oilers.......

(I feel a bit dirty saying this but yes that's the reality - I'm cheering for you Oilers fans)

 

[Chairman Maouth]

The finals are over by now, right? Who won the cup?

 

[PromisedLand]

This might be one of the most cherry picked & biased post I've ever seen on HF, for many reasons.

We'll start off with this, in what world is Lundell equal to Johnston? How exactly is Luostarinen better than Benn? Rodrigues is better than Pavelski? I'm not sure how exactly you can say the 4th lines are equal as well.

Not to mention quite a few of those you set up to give Florida the edge.

stop looking at regular season and look at playoffs

but hey... feel free to disagree.

Like my grandpa used to say... opinions are like a-holes. Everybody's gone one!

LMAO

 

[PuckG]

The “Eastern Conference is harder” has to be one of the dumbest narratives out there. The parity in this league is at the point that any of the top teams can beat one another on any given night. Some more often than others and that’s why the Oilers and Panthers are in the final.

If your team is out and your recourse is to address the non-existent dominance of your division or conference, then you suck a little.

 

[PromisedLand]

 

[AnInjuredJasonZucker]

We gotta keep in mind that Eastern Conference was a lot more deadly than Western conference. Also Atlantic division was the toughest division IMO. Florida also plays less loser a game compared to Dallas. Dallas also had to go through VGK and then Avs. I think they ran out of gas. Oilers had an easier time IMO with freakin Kings and then Canucks

Just in terms of lines comparison using playoffs....

Line 1:
Barkov > Hintz
Reinhart > Seguin (this season at least)
Verhaeghe < Robertson

Barkov < McDavid
Reinhart = Hyman
Verhaeghe > RNH

CONCLUSION:
Line 1 (Florida) > Line 1 (Dallas)
Line 1 (Florida) = Line 1 (Oilers)

Line 2:
Tkachuck > Marchment
Bennet = Duchene
Rodrigues > Pavelski (this season at least)

Tkachuck > Holloway
Bennet < Draisaitl
Rodrigues = E. Kane

CONCLUSION
Line 2 (Florida) > Line 2 (Dallas)
Line 2 (Florida) = Line 2 (Oilers)

Line 3
Luostarinen > Benn
Lundell = Johnston (for this season at least 5 on 5)
Tarasenko > Stankoven

Luostarinen > Foegele
Lundell > McLeod
Tarasenko > Perry

CONCLUSION
Line 3 (Florida) > Line 3 (Dallas)
Line 3 (Florida) > Line 3 (Oilers)

Line 4
Its a wash between all 3 IMO


DEFENSE
Pair 1
Forsling > Lindell
Ekblad < Hieskanen

Forsling = Bouchard (5 on 5)
Ekblad < Ekholm

CONCLUSION
Pair 1 (Florida) = Pair 1 (Dallas)
Pair 1 (Florida) < Pair 1 (Oilers)

Pair 2
Mikkola > Harley
Montour > Tanev

Mikkola > Ceci
Montour > Nurse

CONCLUSION
Pair 2 (Florida) > Pair 2 (Dallas)
Pair 2 (Florida) > Pair 2 (Oilers)

Pair 3
OEL = Suter
Kulikov = Petrovic

OEL > Broberg
Kulikov > Deharnais

CONCLUSION
Pair 3 (Florida) = Pair 3 (Dallas)
Pair 3 (Florida) > Pair 3 (Oilers)

GOALIES
Bob > Otteinger
Bob > Skinner

COACHES
Maurice > Knoblauch

BOTTOM LINE
Florida is more skilled and deeper than Dallas. Also, Flordia in terms of team construction is also all round better than Oilers. However, Oilers super stars (McJesus/Drai) are better than anyone on the Florida team. If Oilers pull through it will be because of their super stars. If Panthers keep McJesus and Drai quiet; Panthers take the win.

Question is can panthers keep McJesus and Drai quiet? Can Panthers breakthrough oilers' PK and contain their PP i.e. win or at least stalemate the special teams? Florida has the 2nd best PK after oilers in the playoffs thus far.

Overall edge is to the Panthers. if McDavid and Drai take over the series it is game over. Don't think Barkov and his Selke would be enough to stop both if they impose their will. If Florida can frustrate McDavid and Drai they will walk away with the cup.

I'm sorry. It looks like you spent a lot of time typing, but that is simply bad player analysis and deductive reasoning.

 

[Skolman]

stop looking at regular season and look at playoffs

but hey... feel free to disagree.

Like my grandpa used to say... opinions are like a-holes. Everybody's gone one!

LMAO

Sure, let's look at playoffs.

Make an argument for Luostarinen being better than Benn, and Lundell being equal to Johnston. Start with that.


You have to be high out of your mind if you would take Luostarinen & Lundell over Benn & Johnston.

 

[Ratsreign]

haha....this so reminds me when we were listening to music in the vehicle....

My wife singing: "Animal! Animalalalallllll! Animal!"
Me: "What the hell are you singing?"
Her: Animal.
Me: *laughing* IT'S PANAMA!
Her: Oh my god....I have to call my sister!


They had been singing the wrong lyrics for years and nobody ever corrected them rofl.

“I’ll never leave your pizza burning”
by The Rolling Stones

....at least she was really hot....

 

[PromisedLand]

Sure, let's look at playoffs.

Make an argument for Luostarinen being better than Benn, and Lundell being better than Johnston. Start with that.

Lundell and Jonston

Luostarinen and Benn
Yea I'd give you that. I looked at the wrong stat. I edited the original post

 

[Skolman]

Lundell and Jonston

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Luostarinen and Benn
Yea I'd give you that. I looked at the wrong stat. I edited the original post

Is this supposed to help your argument?

Pull up the fancy Bouchard vs Forsling stats that's while you're at it

 

[PromisedLand]

Is this supposed to help your argument?

Pull up the fancy Bouchard vs Lundell stats that's while you're at it

Series will start soon enough and all will be laid bare.

Playoffs and Regular Season optics are way different.

Dallas fans were calling out pavelski in playoffs for not doing much especially against oilers while in regular season he was a hero.

Your entire schtick is which players you would take. of course one would take Johnston over lundell overall in long term. but this season in playoffs they are not that different at least based on their production for the team. Its 7 games max only for SCF with very low margin of error heck its like that for pretty much every playoff series. its not 82 regular season games.

 

[BlackDogg]

The winner is Fanatics, and their awfuliscous hats!

 

[snag]

Series will start soon enough and all will be laid bare.

Playoffs and Regular Season optics are way different.

Dallas fans were calling out pavelski in playoffs for not doing much especially against oilers while in regular season he was a hero.

Your entire schtick is which players you would take. of course one would take Johnston over lundell overall in long term. but this season in playoffs they are not that different at least based on their production for the team. Its 7 games max only for SCF with very low margin of error heck its like that for pretty much every playoff series. its not 82 regular season games.

And so are the actual matchups vs stats that ultimately had nothing to do with the current opponents. Hence the reaosn we (read: they) play the games.

But I guess this is the game before the game for some people

 

[ZDH]

How many more months until game 1?

 

[PromisedLand]

And so are the actual matchups vs stats that ultimately had nothing to do with the current opponents. Hence the reaosn we (read: they) play the games.

But I guess this is the game before the game for some people

Don't disagree that match-ups can change. Some may get hot/cold and coaches will adjust their TOI accordingly.

 

[snag]

ROFL....now this was funny:

Oilers plan to damage Florida Panthers’ morale by forcing them to visit Edmonton

EDMONTON - With the 2024 Stanley Cup Finals fast approaching, sources close to the Edmonton Oilers have confirmed that the team has a new strategy for victory - namely, hoping the Florida Panthers are too demoralized by the sight of Edmonton, Alberta to play an effective game of hockey.

www.thebeaverton.com

 

[WATTAGE4451]

Same with Western fans talking about Eastern teams.

Don't get these sentiments. Considering teams now play 2 games against every team in the opposite conference vs playing 3 vs almost all the teams in their own conference(2 teams they play 4 times), it's not like they don't see these opposing conference teams with the nhls balanced schedule post covid.

 

[cotopaxi]

Here's Barkov two-way plays from the conference final. Can Edmonton contain him?

 

[Praetorian Caps]

I have Florida in 7. I think the Panthers are going to be too much for Skinner. They have so many guys that go to the net hard and create chaos there, whereas Dallas I think stayed too much on the perimeter.

But this could go either way. Should be a really fun series.

I think the longer the series goes it favors Edmonton. If Floridas a bad match-up for them they will get swept, five games max. If it goes past that The Oilers are not a team The Panthers want to face in elimination games.

 

[robertocarlos]

I'm curious about this betting thing where the bar owner wins $600k if the Oilers win the Cup. Did he bet $100k on the Oilers winning? He's crazy.

I think the longer the series goes it favors Edmonton. If Floridas a bad match-up for them they will get swept, five games max. If it goes past that The Oilers are not a team Ths Panthers want to face in elimination games.

I agree. Oilers will wear out Bob and Company if the Oilers can go 2-2.

 

[DearDiary]

The series will be decided by Skinners confidence in himself each game

 

[robertocarlos]

The series will be decided by Skinners confidence in himself each game

Oilers sweep!

 

[Ratsreign]

ROFL....now this was funny:

Oilers plan to damage Florida Panthers’ morale by forcing them to visit Edmonton

EDMONTON - With the 2024 Stanley Cup Finals fast approaching, sources close to the Edmonton Oilers have confirmed that the team has a new strategy for victory - namely, hoping the Florida Panthers are too demoralized by the sight of Edmonton, Alberta to play an effective game of hockey.

www.thebeaverton.com

Did you see the one about the Oilers’ locker room celebration after winning game 6 vs Dallas? (Link at bottom of the article you posted)

 

[drktmplr12]

Someone should have given you a TLDR before you posted that. All but a few posters are calling the series either way. What the majority of Oilers fans are arguing is that it will be a competitive series as opposed to the prophesied stomping of the Oilers that was foretold in the Book of the Cat.

I'd even say that a lot Panthers fans feel the same way, but there are a lot of randos with an axe to grind who have thrown off the tone of the thread. Case in point ^.

Vocal.

Minority.


It isnt lost on me.