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Blue Jays Discussion: Save some runs for the other games, guys. (Jays score team record 28 runs in Friday night drubbing of Red Sox. Yes, that says 28. In one game)

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MAB1 said:
What about his offensive performance do you believe is unsustainable?
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For starters, his Barrel% of 20.9% is higher than at any point in his career (8.5%, 8.6% 5.9%), which means he's hitting the ball squarely more often than he ever has and at elite levels. For context, only Mike Trout has barrel% levels are consistently as high and this is the first year he's ever touched 20% at 21.1%. The other years he was at 18.4%, 15%, and 17.5%. Other elite hitters? Goldschmidt 12.2%, Freeman 11.1%, Vlad 11.2%, and Kirk 8.6%. So either Jansen suddenly became better at making quality contact than some of the best hitters in the MLB, OR his rate will normalize to his career levels (or slightly above) once he's amassed a season's worth of plate appearances (he currently doesn't even have enough PAs to qualify for any leaderboards).
 
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Jon Heyman saying Angels are listening on Ohtani, and that a rival executive said it would take a teams top 4 prospects. I’d do that for Ohtani, easy.

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phillipmike said:


Damn that would be a big deal. Jays Equivalent would be Moreno, Tiedemann, Orelvis and say Robberse.
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Less valuable than Moreno and Bo.

I don't think the jays want to empty the farm. Tiedemann being the guy they really want to hang onto. So it's going to take a/some major league piece(s)

Moreno, Gurriel, Espinal, Groshans, Lopez, Pearson, and Britton is an equivalent offer based on BTV
 
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Animal said:
Jon Heyman saying Angels are listening on Ohtani, and that a rival executive said it would take a teams top 4 prospects. I’d do that for Ohtani, easy.

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Moreno
Tiedemann
Orelcivs
Groshans


do it now. get it done.
 
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dredeye said:
You realize our winning started again when he came off the injured list. I get the sense he’s much more important to this team and it’s pitchers than we think
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No other confounding factors occurred during that time span (like, a certain terrible manager being fired on the exact day). But I love the narrative, especially when during the streak our team had a 3.45era with Jansen behind the plate versus a 1.75era with Kirk there (albeit in 73 innings to 36), and Jansen was slashing .180/.250/.360 in those games. It's my second favorite narrative after Jansen is somehow responsible for Kirk's success because "he allows him to rest." Never mind that Kirk's best month of the season was June when Jansen was injured and he played more games (.351/.451/635 7hr 13bb 11so), and he's hitting .320/.407/.488 on days he's catching versus .297/.365/.495 when he's DH'ing for the season.
 
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I’m with the majority here. I’d make that trade, biggest losses for us would be Moreno and Tiedemann. But we’d be getting an ace and a guy who can mash plus he hits left it’s perfect
 
zeke said:
Moreno
Tiedemann
Orelcivs
Groshans


do it now. get it done.
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TheMadHatTrick said:
No other confounding factors occurred during that time span (like, a certain terrible manager being fired on the exact day). But I love the narrative, especially when during the streak our team had a 3.45era with Jansen behind the plate versus a 1.75era with Kirk there (albeit in 73 innings to 36), and Jansen was slashing .180/.250/.360 in those games. It's my second favorite narrative after Jansen is somehow responsible for Kirk's success because "he allows him to rest." Never mind that Kirk's best month of the season was June when Jansen was injured and he played more games (.351/.451/635 7hr 13bb 11so), and he's hitting .320/.407/.488 on days he's catching versus .297/.365/.495 when he's DH'ing for the season.
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I didn’t say it was solely him but you really went on a useless rant of sorts. The jays were doing well until he went down. But to your point about his bat it like many jays was bad at the start of the year. Jansen isn’t a saviour but they seem off memory to have a much better record with him off the injured list than with him on it. At no point did I say Kirk was better because of him. At no point did I bring up anyone’s hitting. Anyway, feel free to go off more. I’m stating what my perception/observation is. It could be wrong and feel free to look into it.
 
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Chad Dallas 6 IP, 2 hits, 0 runs, 1 walk, 8 K's. Finally gotten back on track, he's had a really solid month
 
If we don’t get a big name at the deadline it won’t have because we can’t. We have THEE #1 prospect in all of baseball, the #36 prospect. Orelvis Martinez who should be in the top 90-100 imo who is mashing at AA at 20 years old. I mean everyone in the U.S talks about Volpe and the Yankees…. We can beat any offer..
 
If I had to guess I’d say Orelvis, Groshans, and Biggio are traded for sure. Pearson probably.

I think they’ll keep Moreno and Tiedemann.
 
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