Sarnia Sting 2022-23 Off-Season Thread (Part 4)

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usually the refs take both guys there but I think they were sending a message by just taking him.... he needs to play harder
Not a good message when they didn't call Cowan for a dive later. But is what it is. They didn't score. We got more PPs. Never said we got screwed. Just annoying when there's 0 consistency.

Pp HAS to wake up if they're to win this series. The lack of urgency on it was shocking & seemed to rub off on their 5on5 play once the 2nd PD started.

Do agree most of our T6 needs to play harder. The cute little behind the back/drop passes were maddening at times. They can do them, just not every shift. Gotta throw it on the net & go bang in a rebound. Has to be a mindset.

The recent draft class will be at the game Tuesday i believe they said. See which guys show up & which don't. Should be one of the best crowds we've ever had.
 

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He got a stick to the nuts infront of the net, it was clear as day

Ya the knight player when disengaging with Pastu after three scrum, lifted his stick up into his junk. Didn't think it was done with a ton of force but shoulda been a 2. ( it was not a spear) And I won't dismiss any players pain level when that happens. ( right spot n it's going to hurt)
But he isn't going to get the benefit of the doubt after diving early and then rolling around like he did when jammed up.
Ref missed it, same as they missed the clear highstick on Mailloux rushing wide past ( I think DelM ) and the extra shot or 3 on Filak on a downed knight (Cowan). Both plays right in front of our section. Happens every game. Refs didn't decide this game. As they rarely do inspite of them not being great. You could pick 10 calls/ non calls on each side every game. Players make more mistakes then refs and can have a greater effect on the outcome. That's where my focus usually goes.

Sarnia isn't finished by any means, it's early in the series but the F group has to step up as mentioned above.

London has had a knack this playoffs for playing the 1st 10 min or 1st period close ( tied, up or down 1) then imposing their will on how the game will be played after that. Can that continue, no idea but I except a solid Sarnia response. The couple soft ( but very skilled) Fs are what they are but there is enough jam in the Sting lineup to counter and make it work.
 

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Yes, you said that after I posted the clip, but any previous post wasn't so clear.
Miscommunication just like Sarnia had for LDNs 3rd goal 😂. Is what it is. It does make me chuckle it was Sim both times with the family history with Sarnia lol. Hopefully his brother has similar grit to go with his skill.
 
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Ya the knight player when disengaging with Pastu after three scrum, lifted his stick up into his junk. Didn't think it was done with a ton of force but shoulda been a 2. ( it was not a spear) And I won't dismiss any players pain level when that happens. ( right spot n it's going to hurt)
But he isn't going to get the benefit of the doubt after diving early and then rolling around like he did when jammed up.
Ref missed it, same as they missed the clear highstick on Mailloux rushing wide past ( I think DelM ) and the extra shot or 3 on Filak on a downed knight (Cowan). Both plays right in front of our section. Happens every game. Refs didn't decide this game. As they rarely do inspite of them not being great. You could pick 10 calls/ non calls on each side every game. Players make more mistakes then refs and can have a greater effect on the outcome. That's where my focus usually goes.

Sarnia isn't finished by any means, it's early in the series but the F group has to step up as mentioned above.

London has had a knack this playoffs for playing the 1st 10 min or 1st period close ( tied, up or down 1) then imposing their will on how the game will be played after that. Can that continue, no idea but I except a solid Sarnia response. The couple soft ( but very skilled) Fs are what they are but there is enough jam in the Sting lineup to counter and make it work.
He should get the benefit of the doubt irregardless of what he did earlier (I hate the diving shit he pulled). No player should be putting their stick near another players junk, it’s a dirty play and if the ref’s let it go it just allows more players thinking it’s fine to follow suit. Bone head play by the ref. Also on that same play if you rewatch it the knights player dove like he got hit in the head by dillingham when he actually pushed him in the shoulder and it was clear as day guy when down and laid on the ice like he took a puck in the face. No different than pastujov diving. But knights got away with it. Couple bad calls on a single play by the refs .
 
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Yes, you said that after I posted the clip, but any previous post wasn't so clear.
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8:48 left in the second, after Dillingham punched Cowan (who also overreacted). That’s a chicken-sh#t move. Like we all said, should be a fun series!
 

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8:48 left in the second, after Dillingham punched Cowan (who also overreacted). That’s a chicken-sh#t move. Like we all said, should be a fun series!
Ya... and stuff like that happened the other way too and didn't get called. But I'm not going to post every clip of every missed call or even debate it. My response was to a post that I thought was regarding the dive. It's been cleared up. Thanks for shopping
 

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Ya... and stuff like that happened the other way too and didn't get called. But I'm not going to post every clip of every missed call or even debate it. My response was to a post that I thought was regarding the dive. It's been cleared up. Thanks for shopping
Slight difference between a missed slash, hook & a shot to the nuts. Those are reviewable. Not to mention Barkey was VERY fortunate not to have gotten a major for slew footing on the first call of the game.

It's over now. Better team won G1. Hopefully it's a better called game both ways tomorrow.
 
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He should get the benefit of the doubt irregardless of what he did earlier (I hate the diving shit he pulled). No player should be putting their stick near another players junk, it’s a dirty play and if the ref’s let it go it just allows more players thinking it’s fine to follow suit. Bone head play by the ref. Also on that same play if you rewatch it the knights player dove like he got hit in the head by dillingham when he actually pushed him in the shoulder and it was clear as day guy when down and laid on the ice like he took a puck in the face. No different than pastujov diving. But knights got away with it. Couple bad calls on a single play by the refs .

I'm not excusing any of it on either side. Also said I wouldnt judhe the oain of it. Bone head non call IF, If the ref saw it and IF they did they shoulda called it. I said that ( just like the other plays I mentioned that no London fan brought up except me and only to point out the officials make mistakes on both sides. Mallioux had the puck, blew by DelM and got clipped in the face with a high stick, how do they miss that????? But no worries here and it never woulda been brought up except to add perspective n balance to Stinfmg fan(s) complaining about officiating.
If there was/is a doubt in the refs mind on any call ( I dont know this for the play your talking about) yes your past actions will influence their call. I never said right or wrong. It's human nature.
If Sarnia fans wanna focus on the officials, have at it.
 

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Slight difference between a missed slash, hook & a shot to the nuts. Those are reviewable. Not to mention Barkey was VERY fortunate not to have gotten a major for slew footing on the first call of the game.

It's over now. Better team won G1. Hopefully it's a better called game both ways tomorrow.

Don't hold your breath lol. Refs going to ref. ( missed highstick to the face could cause blindness :) Just as serious as a tap to the junk ;)) I know which I'd pick to lose but I'm old and not a teen lol.

I thought the officiating was even from my seat ( and when I rewatched on pvr) and most definitely was a non factor in the outcome of the game. As you said. I just don't get when a team loses the refs often get brought up (wether blamed or not its too often mentioned) JMO

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Don't hold your breath lol. Refs going to ref. ( missed highstick to the face could cause blindness :) Just as serious as a tap to the junk ;)) I know which I'd pick to lose but I'm old and not a teen lol.

I thought the officiating was even from my seat ( and when I rewatched on pvr) and most definitely was a non factor in the outcome of the game. As you said. I just don't get when a team loses the refs often get brought up (wether blamed or not its too often mentioned) JMO

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It was blown out of proportion saying I blamed them for the loss. Just said they weren't consistent. Which they weren't. They called only ldn PD1. Only SAR pd 2. Then neither Pd3.

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I'm not excusing any of it on either side. Also said I wouldnt judhe the oain of it. Bone head non call IF, If the ref saw it and IF they did they shoulda called it. I said that ( just like the other plays I mentioned that no London fan brought up except me and only to point out the officials make mistakes on both sides. Mallioux had the puck, blew by DelM and got clipped in the face with a high stick, how do they miss that????? But no worries here and it never woulda been brought up except to add perspective n balance to Stinfmg fan(s) complaining about officiating.
If there was/is a doubt in the refs mind on any call ( I dont know this for the play your talking about) yes your past actions will influence their call. I never said right or wrong. It's human nature.
If Sarnia fans wanna focus on the officials, have at it.
Don't hold your breath lol. Refs going to ref. ( missed highstick to the face could cause blindness :) Just as serious as a tap to the junk ;)) I know which I'd pick to lose but I'm old and not a teen lol.

I thought the officiating was even from my seat ( and when I rewatched on pvr) and most deginitely was a non factor in the outcome of the game. As you said. I just don't get when a team loses the refs often get brought up ( wether blamed or not its too often mentioned)

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I think the other poster was saying the London player clearly intentionally put his stick to pastujovs junk and the missed high stick was almost guaranteed an accident like it always is. I think an intentional shot to the junk after the whistle should be called, over an accidental high stick during a fast game. Not a big deal ref’s were bad both ways …. Moving on.
 
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I think the other poster was saying the London player clearly intentionally put his stick to pastujovs junk and the missed high stick was almost guaranteed an accident like it always is. I think an intentional shot to the junk after the whistle should be called, over an accidental high stick during a fast game. Not a big deal ref’s were bad both ways …. Moving on.

Both should be called, as it's in the rule book. Not one over the other. Can't advocate discretion based on what you feel is worse or intentionally done if you also say past actions shouldn't influence a call. Gladly moving on.
 

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It was blown out of proportion saying I blamed them for the loss. Just said they weren't consistent. Which they weren't. They called only ldn PD1. Only SAR pd 2. Then neither Pd3.

Thanks!

Never said ya blamed them. It's always going to be subpar. It is in the NHL also.
I've yet to see a perfectly played or officiated game. When I do I'll pass in my hockey fan card.
 

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If the Leafs don't Leaf maybe we could get Stammer back to drop the puck for 1 of the home games haha.
 
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Both should be called, as it's in the rule book. Not one over the other. Can't advocate discretion based on what you feel is worse or intentionally done if you also say past actions shouldn't influence a call. Gladly moving on.
I agree both should be called, intentional is much worse tho.
 

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Big one today. Don't wanna go down 2-0. Not much to say other than they simply have to bring a full 60 minute effort. Anything less would be a disappointment & a disservice to all the work they've put in to get to this point.

Going to this game. Hopeful I am not leaving depressed/pissed off. Keep your goddamn feet moving & bring it back to Sarnia tied at 1. Let's go.
 

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Filak went off holding his shoulder (same one he hurt before playoffs) midway thru the 3rd. Can't remember if he had another shift.

Wasn't having a great game to that point, but hopefully he isn't hurt. Really wanna have his jam & tenacity in this series.

I honestly thought the game as a whole was pretty weird. Idk if I was the only one who felt like this, but I expected a lot more emotion, physicality, tension. It certainly didn't feel like this massive game for long stretches to me anyways. It's why it was frustrating to lose cause i didn't think LDN looked all that good either. They just didn't stop playing at any point. Imagine tomorrow it goes up a level, or two.
I thought a lot of the game was played between the blue lines. Both teams were pretty cautious and defensive minded until the Knights got up in the game then things opened up. Typical playoff style type game between two good teams.
 

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Todays game will show if Letang and company are capable of being behind the bench in this league. It’s pretty obvious what the sting need to do, whether the coaches can see that, make adjustments and get the message across to the players is a different story.
 
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