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Sure, he has been considered an NHL superstar for years now.
Confirmed with Link: Sandin to Washington for Erik Gustafsson and 1st (BOS)
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Dayjobdave
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Sandin could blossom but he wasn’t going to have a chance to do so here before he would be demanding 4-5 million a season.
It made sense to move him and get assets back. I don’t wish him ill, it’s still a sensible trade for the Leafs under the circumstances.
It made sense to move him and get assets back. I don’t wish him ill, it’s still a sensible trade for the Leafs under the circumstances.
Shooter2x
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The assets that went out including Sandin over the years could have landed us so much actual impact for cup runs. (Or you know, maybe draft someone with a pick or 2 who can enter the lineup and help by now)
The overall haul is sad and pathetic and its sad people have forced themselves to be okay with it.
There was no plan in place for this team. It's all been a random assortment. Sandin trade is the proof.
The overall haul is sad and pathetic and its sad people have forced themselves to be okay with it.
There was no plan in place for this team. It's all been a random assortment. Sandin trade is the proof.
Gary Nylund
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How does the trade prove anything? Answer - it doesn't.
There is absolutely a plan in place lol but you actually have to look beyond this year to see it.
In 2024-25, Tavares is on his last year at 11M but the problem is that Matthews and Nylander are UFA's that year which means they will be making more than their current cap hits.
To remain competitive in that year, it was imperative to make sure they have a Top 4D who doesn't make a lot of money. The trade and retention of McCabe ensures that they will remain competitive that year despite the cap crunch.
Next step in that plan will involve signing Liljegren to a 7-8 year deal around 4-4.5M because if they let him play next year without getting a deal done, he's going to become very very costly.
Larcos_Unal
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This isn't a particularly coherent argument. Dubas made a number of trades to go for it - some better than others - so you can't say he didn't push his chips in. And I'd suggest that for a guy who doesn't have a contract past this season, it was admirable that Dubas made the Sandin trade which is more future focused with the first rounder. His moves this year have given the Leafs their best lineup for the playoffs they've had in his tenure. And we still have first rounders in the next two drafts. Others have already detailed our cap situation, which will benefit from an increasing league cap figure over the next few years, and the end of Tavares' contract in two years. We're all frustrated by the playoff failures, but we've been in the top echelon of the league for the past 5 years. I sure haven't lost interest, or faith in this team.
Stephen
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Sandin is -11 in the past 4 games.
Stephen
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Another thing you have to like about getting a first round pick is if they pick well, that prospect could D+1 value inflation, via putting up big post draft numbers, maybe a WJC stint for their country and be another trade chip or make someone else dispensable.
TheDoldrums
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Bostons 1st isn't going to dress for the playoffs either.
I just don't know if trading Sandin was the play when Giordano could be done at anytime. We don't have any good LHD prospects on the way.
We have Rielly and McCabe to play in our top four on the left side for the foreseeable future. Finding a third pairing left handed defenceman is very hard to do at all.
TheBeastCoast
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His value was only going down riding the pine for the next two months and in the playoffs when he then likely would have publicly requested a trade in the off season. It sure as hell wasn't going up and people should really accept that when we traded for McCabe that was the end of Sandin here. It was just do we trade him now or in the off season.
notDatsyuk
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Yeah he’s struggling with the heavy minutes he’s clearly not up to the challenge for. At least not yet.
I like Sandin and I am rooting for him but acting like he wasn’t going to put up points feeding Ovechkin made no sense. Even Gustafsson had lots of points on the Capitals.
Mike Green got a Norris nomination despite needing a compass to find the D zone playing on the Capitals.
I would have been mad at the trade had we not upgraded on him in every way possible with McCabe who is here for another 2 playoff runs after this at just 2M.
With the trade we recouped an asset we can use at the draft and got insurance for injury in Gus.
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ULF_55
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March 19, 2023 game. -2
Again, playing the most minutes.
Wonder if this is an opportunity to force feed him development time in a meaningless string of games.
An investment in his future.
Leafs aren't in a position to invest in their future right now.
This is a do or be fired season for half of management and likely several players.
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Drytoast
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Which is why he needed to be traded. Sandin wasn't ready to log those minutes he wanted and wasn't going to resign here. Dubas flipped him for Gustaffson and a first. He got something instead of nothing.
therealkoho
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I think that's going a little far, as I still believe there's a competent middle pairing NHL dman in there somewhere. He takes way too many risks, which leads to all those nagging injuries that he refuses to play with. I'm not saying he needs to play hurt in the way that Orr did, where he made his injuries worse. I just got the feeling that Rasmus wouldn't play if he had a bruise from a shot block, that other guys wouldn't miss an optional skate with.
Hopefully the guy has a decent career, I know many of the peeps in here would have given practically anything to play even 1 game at that level.
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Peasy
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man is playing way over his head but will get the points because of pp1 and just being the only decent puck moving d on the caps currently.
thusk
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1-The plan is Sandin would be out of line up for remaining season and next one
2- leafs found a similar type of player for absolutly nothing with Connor Timmins whos probably as good of sandin
3-at the same price, they add a guy who will have a immediate impact playing a huge top 4 role
So lets see, since last off-season
Leafs added 2 offensive dman in timmins and gustafsson who will stil between 7 to 9th d * exactly like sandin), added 3/4th defensive D, and a depht physical D in Schenn... for the same price of Sandin and a 3rd pick... and you gonna tell me leafs dont have any plan and doing random team...
They upgraded drastically their team without losing any kind of value anywhere and you're telling me they're doing random thing. With the job dubas did, he should be considerate for GM of the years!!
Malachi Crunch
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I'm not even a huge Dubas guy and I was happy with this trade. Sandin isn't all that and then some. Entitled to boot.
Come on.
Come on.
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