Confirmed with Link: Sandin signs 2 x 1.4

[Leaf Rocket]

CJ also says Leafs are expected to sign ZAR with whatever pool they have left

Excellent.

 

[ACC1224]

sarcasm for all the Dubas haters. The smiley is a hint, my friend.

Sorry, never can tell these days.
I don't know how anyone could hate this, unless I've missed the posts no one has that I've seen.
Nothing surprising about this deal, pretty standard.

 

[Budz22]

I don't think he caved in this instance. Seems like a pretty fair deal.

 

[notbias]

… do you honestly believe that if there was no injuries he would have signed? No he wouldn’t have.

The relationship was fractured in the summer. Sandin was frustrated with the leafs. But he understands that this is his best opportunity to into the line up.

The left side is still very clogged up, and the only starter injured is Liljegren.

Dahlstrom and Benn being injured don't do anything for Sandin, he was always ahead of them.

The relationship must not be too bad.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Huzzah! The saga is over. Now we can all move forward for the better, both for the team and Sandin.

 

[francis246]

I think the Leafs are just as frustrated with Sandin.

If the relationship was that fractured, he would have been traded.

Using the term fractured doesn’t automatically equate to the worst possible scenario. A break down in communication, halt to negotiation, frustration on both sides is a fractured relationship between player and club. It doesn’t mean that things can’t be mended.

 

[SprDaVE]

Using the term fractured doesn’t automatically equate to the worst possible scenario. A break down in communication, halt to negotiation, frustration on both sides is a fractured relationship between player and club. It doesn’t mean that things can’t be mended.

That is true but I think this was just a player getting very bad advice. These things clear up pretty fast. Not sure the frustration or fracture or whatever adjective you want to use matters all that much.

Just look at DeBrusk with Boston. The guy asked for a trade for over a year and he's still there. (he rescinded the request this summer I think)

 

[francis246]

That is true but I think this was just a player getting very bad advice. These things clear up pretty fast. Not sure the frustration or fracture or whatever adjective you want to use matters all that much.

Just look at DeBrusk with Boston. The guy asked for a trade for over a year and he's still there. (he rescinded the request this summer I think)

Exactly, I think we are on the same side here. Fracture or break downs between players or whatever you want to call it and clubs happen all the time. Especially when players have an expectations and the clubs have different expectation.

I just chose to use the word fracture.

 

[TorMapleJays]

It's sad that so many "critical thinkers" nowadays don't realize that they're lapping up well funded corporate anti-government propaganda.

Zeke,

When the worlds media is reading the same script, sometimes word for word, who is funding who?

When you control the message, you control the narrative.

Now back to Sheldon Keefe and his HoF career that will be played out in Toronto over the next 15 years

 

[cipher]

Reality:

Rasmus Sandin told his agent to get off his uninformed ass and close this deal today so Lewis Gross reached out to Leafs GM Kyle Dubas early this morning and expressed a desire to end the contract stalemate. Leafs stood firm on $1.4M AAV. With injuries on Leafs' blue-line, Sandin felt the pull to end the stalemate.

 

[francis246]

Which injuries? Didn't Muzzin just return from injury?

Muzzin and Liljegren. Muzzin still isn’t cleared to play at this moment and didn’t even finish practice yesterday.

 

[SprDaVE]

Exactly, I think we are on the same side here. Fracture or break downs between players or whatever you want to call it and clubs happen all the time. Especially when players have an expectations and the clubs have different expectation.

I just chose to use the word fracture.

 

[francis246]

I’m dead perfect picture man hahaha

 

[Menzinger]

Wonder how he knows what was offered?

That is true but I think this was just a player getting very bad advice. These things clear up pretty fast. Not sure the frustration or fracture or whatever adjective you want to use matters all that much.

Just look at DeBrusk with Boston. The guy asked for a trade for over a year and he's still there. (he rescinded the request this summer I think)

Yep. From an outsiders perspective based on what we know + the history of the agent, I think there was a miscalculation by the players side on how things would play out. They acted like they had leverage when the team was actually in the stronger position.

Regardless it's all over now. Focus is now in rebuilding the relationship

 

[Guy Boucher]

This didn't have anything to do with Benn/Dahlstrom imo.

This was his last chance to sign before the season. As it is, he'll play 1 preseason game now. If he waits any longer, he'll miss regular season games - which frankly would have ridiculously self-sabotaging for a player of his experience level.

 

[zeke]

Zeke,

When the worlds media is reading the same script, sometimes word for word, who is funding who?

When you control the message, you control the narrative.

Now back to Sheldon Keefe and his HoF career that will be played out in Toronto over the next 15 years

Who is the biggest media corporation in the world, and which of the largest "alternative" media sources parrot their talking points?

 

[Macallan18]

I think the Leafs are just as frustrated with Sandin.

If the relationship was that fractured, he would have been traded.

Sandin said lets kiss and make up, and the Leafs said yes

 

[zeke]

Muzzin and Liljegren. Muzzin still isn’t cleared to play at this moment and didn’t even finish practice yesterday.

Muzzin and liljegren were injured weeks ago. What do they have to do with Sandin signing today?

 

[Notsince67]

Nice! Hope he's up to speed.

Cap management will be interesting, waive Simmonds?

That would pretty well guarantee that he goes to edmonton

 

[TML Dynasty]

Sandin wanted more and held out as is his right.

Didn’t get him more and he signed before the season starts. No harm no foul.

His agents tactics however are definitely suspect…..I’m not sure what he expected.

No issue with the player at all, go get em!

 

[ACC1224]

Yep. From an outsiders perspective based on what we know + the history of the agent, I think there was a miscalculation by the players side on how things would play out. They acted like they had leverage when the team was actually in the stronger position.

Regardless it's all over now. Focus is now in rebuilding the relationship

I'm sure they will be fine going forward, it's just business.

I find the negotiation process and who leaks what and their motivations for it interesting.

 

[RoadWarrior]

good deal
same deal he got offered in june

dubas growing some balls

Sandin signed because of the injuries which opened up playing time.

We're going to need him as we'll be lucky to get 40 games out of Muzzin.

 

[4thline]

Unfortunately it really doesn't make sense to be paying more than league minimum for our #7D when we're up at the cap.

Don't think I agree. In a general sense that holds true, but looking at the specifics of the situation if we had say Heinen/Holl instead we ice an equal healthy roster with a substantially more robust D group.

To make it worth it Engvall needs to play at a high enough level that it stops being equal when healthy, by a big enough gap that it makes up for the injured D downgrade.

 

[genk]

He’s underrated again! Finally!

 

[keonsbitterness]

Sandin signed by October 10. You read it here last.

I win again!