Player Discussion Sammy Blais

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For Blais to be effective, he has to Bang. He does that exceptionally well. His timing and positioning are excellent when it comes to hitting. He is the guy you want to play a heavy game in a 7 game playoff series.

With that said the injury last night looked really bad. Im hoping for Sammy that it isn't a Torn ACL. If it is, its one of those injuries that can hold a player back from ever going balls to the wall again.
 

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Bumping this. I’ll be thrilled if it turns out Blais has a sprained knee and he’s out 4-6 weeks. I fear it’s worse though.
I'm not optimistic. Legs shouldn't bend this way and it's not often you can actually hear a guy screaming in pain through the broadcast.

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I'm not optimistic. Legs shouldn't bend this way and it's not often you can actually hear a guy screaming in pain through the broadcast.

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The second video really shows how he extended his right foot to catch Blais' skate. I am curious to hear team reaction today after they all get a chance to see the replays and kind of digest it all. I will be shocked if Blais plays again this year. This play is soo f***ing sneaky dirty...
 

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The second video really shows how he extended his right foot to catch Blais' skate. I am curious to hear team reaction today after they all get a chance to see the replays and kind of digest it all. I will be shocked if Blais plays again this year. This play is soo f***ing sneaky dirty...
Even if you try to give him the benefit of the doubt (which he doesn't deserve) and say it was an accident, I don't understand what in the world he was trying to do with the flailing right leg. There's no scenario that makes sense there.
 

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Even if you try to give him the benefit of the doubt (which he doesn't deserve) and say it was an accident, I don't understand what in the world he was trying to do with the flailing right leg. There's no scenario that makes sense there.
he was trying to obstruct a player that was going to beat him to the puck, plain and simple. I dont for a second think subban is thinking he is going to severely injury blais, he is thinking oh shit I am out of position and I need to impede this guy. But non of that matters, as his game has fallen off subban keeps doing these things to try to makeup for him losing a step and being out of position or slower to react. He is an absolute hazzard. For all the crap people give about a guy like Wilson I think the stuff subban is doing is actually more dangerous bc it is the sneaky stuff that really hurts guys where they have no clue it is coming. it's the same as skating behind a guy and poking him in the back of the knee so he falls backwards and either folds his leg under himself or smashes the back of his head on the ice. Wilson is a douch, but you know what you are getting: the mean wwe type garbage. Subban does the sneaky stuff that you dont always know is coming. At this point though the players in the league need to take notice, but the issue for them is what do you do? You cant stay away from him or give him space bc then you are rewarding the guy. In reality someone needs to beat the snot out of him, no more turtling garbage or playing limp rag doll, someone needs to knock him around unless the league steps in and does something. If subban did that to ovi last night and it were going to cost ovi a run at the goal record I would hope it wouldnt be swept under the rug and ignored, just like I hope the league does something with this. No hockey player can look at that play and justify the right leg coming out to trip Blais, it isnt a natural motion...
 

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I thought it was clearly an accident—the outcome at least—and I felt bad for subban. At the same time, that’s four times since the preseason and if you can’t stop making that risky play then the outcome has to lay at your feet (pun not intended).
 

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The second video really shows how he extended his right foot to catch Blais' skate. I am curious to hear team reaction today after they all get a chance to see the replays and kind of digest it all. I will be shocked if Blais plays again this year. This play is soo f***ing sneaky dirty...

Yup, you can see Subban put both of his hands out to catch his balance against the glass.
 

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I said last night I thought it was accidental. But it is hard to justify what Subban is doing extending his right leg out in that situation. Clearly trying to impede Blais in some way with his feet, which given his track record this season alone is a f***ing bad decision. Beyond reckless.
 

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he was trying to obstruct a player that was going to beat him to the puck, plain and simple. I dont for a second think subban is thinking he is going to severely injury blais, he is thinking oh shit I am out of position and I need to impede this guy. But non of that matters, as his game has fallen off subban keeps doing these things to try to makeup for him losing a step and being out of position or slower to react. He is an absolute hazzard. For all the crap people give about a guy like Wilson I think the stuff subban is doing is actually more dangerous bc it is the sneaky stuff that really hurts guys where they have no clue it is coming. it's the same as skating behind a guy and poking him in the back of the knee so he falls backwards and either folds his leg under himself or smashes the back of his head on the ice. Wilson is a douch, but you know what you are getting: the mean wwe type garbage. Subban does the sneaky stuff that you dont always know is coming. At this point though the players in the league need to take notice, but the issue for them is what do you do? You cant stay away from him or give him space bc then you are rewarding the guy. In reality someone needs to beat the snot out of him, no more turtling garbage or playing limp rag doll, someone needs to knock him around unless the league steps in and does something. If subban did that to ovi last night and it were going to cost ovi a run at the goal record I would hope it wouldnt be swept under the rug and ignored, just like I hope the league does something with this. No hockey player can look at that play and justify the right leg coming out to trip Blais, it isnt a natural motion...

Right on point. Was thinking the same thing, had this been McDavid, Matthews, Ovy, etc. what would the reaction be around the league given this guys rep?

It needs to be taken care of and im not expecting the league to do anything about it.
 

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I watched the replay over about 50 times and while it was a bang bang play, I do believe it was an intentional move by Subban to start swinging his right leg out. It's not malicious in that he wants to injure someone, it's a self-preservation move and a habit that needs to stop.

If this was a one-off play with no other history of these plays in the past, you would write it off as incidental contact.

But Vally called it in the postgame. He's lost a step so he arrives in the corners and on the walls with a different mentality than when he was a Norris level skating defenseman.

While this wasnt a purposeful slewfoot from behind, he is making himself bigger and wider to compensate for his regression in skill and making it known if you are going to apply pressure to his side he's going to let you go in first and slickly give you the old matador trick.

The league needs to take action. I dont give a f*** what Devils fans think, they are wrong. If this happened to their player on the heels of a repeat offender they would be losing their shit.

Also the look on Subban's face was not one of innocence both after the play and after Blais went off. He was looking at the refs to see if a penalty would be called.

This dude needs to change his game or be disciplined by the NHL for not only other players safety but his own. Players know whats going on. He will find himself taking one on the chin or in the back near the wall real soon if he keeps this shit up.

I fear that Sammy may be seriously injured. These types of injuries could be career altering. Lets hope that isnt the case because some older wash up is trying to cheat the game
 

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I think it was unintentional and accidental but it was still reckless and high-risk. Players should still be held accountable for their decision making even if no malice was present.
 

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Even if you try to give him the benefit of the doubt (which he doesn't deserve) and say it was an accident, I don't understand what in the world he was trying to do with the flailing right leg. There's no scenario that makes sense there.
This was precisely the implication of my post last night.
 

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I'm not optimistic. Legs shouldn't bend this way and it's not often you can actually hear a guy screaming in pain through the broadcast.

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It’s still a wait and see situation. The slewfoot on Reaves looked like his knee would be in bad shape too. It turned out to be minor. And we had the time last season where Shesterkin looked to be in a lot of pain on the ice, but it was also minor.
 

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Even if you try to give him the benefit of the doubt (which he doesn't deserve) and say it was an accident, I don't understand what in the world he was trying to do with the flailing right leg. There's no scenario that makes sense there.

I think he was trying to get around Blais to the high side, hoping to get his stick on the puck and pull it free. That's why you see his feet go wide and his right foot come forward. I think the further extension of his right foot was a result of the contact.

I don't think it was malicious, just an unfortunate play by a player who isn't very good at playing his position. He might have gotten to the high side and been able to fight the puck free, but he might also have given Blais an easy lane to the net.
 

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Subban has made a habit of dragging his trailing foot to catch opponents inside leg to send them off balance. It is not a "slew-foot" in the traditional motion, but it is harder to spot and has the same effect. Very dirty play. Trust me, he knows what he is doing.
 

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I said last night I thought it was accidental. But it is hard to justify what Subban is doing extending his right leg out in that situation. Clearly trying to impede Blais in some way with his feet, which given his track record this season alone is a f***ing bad decision. Beyond reckless.

Yep. It is “accidental” in that he doesn’t intend to slew foot or injure. But it’s 100% an intentional attempt to slow and impede a player who is beating him to a puck. And the reason it happens with such regularity is because Subban has declined so much that he is regularly beat to the puck and because he used to rely on athleticism, not good positioning, he doesn’t know how else to defend these situations. I don’t believe Subban is trying to injure people. I think he is sticking his leg out intentionally.
 

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Some of the conspiracy theories here are precious. Just precious.

It was a hockey play and an accident.
I mean, the same person has had this same accident multiple times in this young season. That’s not a conspiracy, it’s just a fact. Maybe he doesn’t mean to hurt people, but he’s making this bad play repeatedly and people are getting hurt.
 

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I think anyone who has played ice hockey at high school level can clearly see what's happening here. There is no chance this play or the one against Reaves is an accident. League will do nothing because they care more about optics than protecting players and most will forgive Subban for a play like this. Subban has found a under the radar dirty play niche in accidental slew foots and he is clearly among the best in the world at it. Hope Blais is ok.
 
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Big reason for the 2nd goal credited to Laf. Drives the net and takes two dmen and the goalie with him leaving Laf by himself on the other side.
 

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I mean, the same person has had this same accident multiple times in this young season. That’s not a conspiracy, it’s just a fact. Maybe he doesn’t mean to hurt people, but he’s making this bad play repeatedly and people are getting hurt.

Exactly. Accidental or not, Subban has developed a habit of sticking his leg in when he’s been beaten in the corner, to slow his opponent down. 4 times this season it’s resulted in injuries. He’s probably done it other times that weren’t noticed because either they didn’t cause an issue or because they didn’t make contact, but clearly he has developed a habit of sticking his foot out. That’s not a conspiracy.
 
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Some of the conspiracy theories here are precious. Just precious.

It was a hockey play and an accident.
Once it became clear he was going to be on the wrong side of the puck PK tried to obstruct Blais a bit, throw him off balance a smidge, so Subban would have a better shot to poke the puck away or make a play. It's not malicious like a slew foot, but near the boards it's a dangerous play like any type of tripping/push. It's the wrong side of grey- jostling for position is fair, but tripping is not.

CK checked a guy into the boards in the waning seconds of a game, a shrug from Kreider but because he's a beast and the guy went flying into the boards. Not malicious, but also a dangerous play in the same way imo.
 
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I said last night I thought it was accidental. But it is hard to justify what Subban is doing extending his right leg out in that situation. Clearly trying to impede Blais in some way with his feet, which given his track record this season alone is a f***ing bad decision. Beyond reckless.
I agree... I felt it was accidental also but watching it this many times has me admitting I was probably wrong. As you say... if it's close... he's lost the benefit of the doubt because IT KEEPS HAPPENING

This one is keeping Blais out for a while I would imagine. I hope the league keeps Subban out as long as Sammy is.
 
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