Player Discussion Sammy Blais

[bhamill]

Average recovery time is 9 months for an ACL tear.

Blais isn't recovering from the surgery. It killed his NHL career. He'll end up in the the AHL or overseas.

That’s to recover enough to play. Regaining form takes the two years.
Also it was not JUST the ACL, whole knee got blown out MCL as well.
As was mentioned this is a rehab year, we all knew that going in, well most of us, including NYR management.

 

[TopShelfSnipes]

Proof Blais can score a goal

Easy to score a goal when 2 AHL defenseman leave you alone in front of the net on a powerplay no less, to whack twice at a rebound off a chance you didn't do anything to create.

Just more proof this injury prone player who has never played more than 40 games in a season, and had his best year with a demonstrably unsustainble shooting percentage, is not an NHL player.

We know the Offensive side of his game diminushed significantly since he arrived in NY. At least from a goal scoring perspective. The weird thing about Blais is this. Some areas actually increased. He doesn't appear to be nearly effective as he was early on as a physical forward, yet the date is showing something else.

Post injury with less icetime his hitting actually increased as did his shot blocks.

2021 36GP He averaged 2.8 Hits per game. (Pre Injury) TOI 12:04 10 Blocked Shots
2022 14GP He averages 2.6 hits per game (Pre Injury) TOI 13:28 37 Blocked Shots
2023 38GP He averages 2.9 Hits per game. (Post Injury) TOI 9:42 15 Blocked Shots

I guess what we aren't seeing is the big open ice hits he used to deliver and for a player who dosn't score goals you need that other "something". Doubt he is ever going to go back to the reckless forechecking style of play we saw in the small sample but I is interesting to see that he is still throwing the body.

The most interesting stat about Blais this season is that he has exactly ONE takeaway all season.

Think about that. It's definitive proof he can't keep up with the play. He is not able to take the puck away from anyone else on the ice. Curious who he took the puck away from on the one, by the way.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Easy to score a goal when 2 AHL defenseman leave you alone in front of the net on a powerplay no less, to whack twice at a rebound off a chance you didn't do anything to create.

Just more proof this injury prone player who has never played more than 40 games in a season, and had his best year with a demonstrably unsustainble shooting percentage, is not an NHL player.


The most interesting stat about Blais this season is that he has exactly ONE takeaway all season.

Think about that. It's definitive proof he can't keep up with the play. He is not able to take the puck away from anyone else on the ice. Curious who he took the puck away from on the one, by the way.

He's not an NHL player now because his knee was torn up last year and that takes a full 2 years to recover from. Before that injury he was skating and hitting and was noticeable. He was also a part of the Blues stanley cup run. The return for Buch should have been better for sure but Blais was absolutely an NHL player.

 

[Profet]

He's not an NHL player now because his knee was torn up last year and that takes a full 2 years to recover from. Before that injury he was skating and hitting and was noticeable. He was also a part of the Blues stanley cup run. The return for Buch should have been better for sure but Blais was absolutely an NHL player.

I would LOVE to have pre-injury Blais on this team.

I think the disagreement is over whether or not one thinks Blais recovers more than he has today.

Personally, I think his recovery has stalled and he is what he is, and that is not an NHL player.

If your thinking is that he will recover more, then it's a question of how much more? Full recovery? And then how long will that take?

 

[egelband]

I’d hold judgment until next season. It’s a crummy situation. But that’s life sometimes. It’s a shame they couldn’t or didn’t send him to the AHL for this whole season so far.

 

[Baby Punisher]

I would LOVE to have pre-injury Blais on this team.

I think the disagreement is over whether or not one thinks Blais recovers more than he has today.

Personally, I think his recovery has stalled and he is what he is, and that is not an NHL player.

If your thinking is that he will recover more, then it's a question of how much more? Full recovery? And then how long will that take?

It's a shame how this injury has derailed his career. What's also equally frustrating is that we could have re-signed Tyler Motte for the same money we gave Blais. The flat cap has really caused management to go dumpster diving and it's affected the construction and balance of the team.

Blais
Haruper
Vessey
Carpenter
Lickassysein
Hayek.

Vessey is the best out of that group. I could live with that if it was just him and Haruper was the 7th D-man.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

I’d hold judgment until next season. It’s a crummy situation. But that’s life sometimes. It’s a shame they couldn’t or didn’t send him to the AHL for this whole season so far.

It's very unlikely we sign him to another contract unless he can show some serious signs of improvement over the last few months. If we do it will definitely be a 1 year at close to league min.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

I would LOVE to have pre-injury Blais on this team.

I think the disagreement is over whether or not one thinks Blais recovers more than he has today.

Personally, I think his recovery has stalled and he is what he is, and that is not an NHL player.

If your thinking is that he will recover more, then it's a question of how much more? Full recovery? And then how long will that take?

Im not a doctor but it seems to me that players that have had ACL injuries still aren't right the following year. It's the year after that they start to look like their former selves. I think that may be the case with Blais as well but it is very likely he is playing for another team by then.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Proof Blais can score a goal

Great he is on the PP. Hopefully he does not return to the NHL

 

[egelband]

Great he is on the PP. Hopefully he does not return to the NHL

I don’t understand why the hive mind decided to hate Blais. Not his fault he was traded for Buch and he certainly got hugely effed with the cheap shot injury.

 

[EdJovanovski]

That’s to recover enough to play. Regaining form takes the two years.
Also it was not JUST the ACL, whole knee got blown out MCL as well.
As was mentioned this is a rehab year, we all knew that going in, well most of us, including NYR management.

Was it more than just the ACL? I never saw that mentioned

 

[zlev]

Micheletti mentioned it months ago. he tore out everything in his knee, ligaments and all.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Was it more than just the ACL? I never saw that mentioned

Yes it's been mentioned before. The knee was really f***ed up.

 

[RangersFan1994]

I don’t understand why the hive mind decided to hate Blais. Not his fault he was traded for Buch and he certainly got hugely effed with the cheap shot injury.

We don’t hate Blais.. we hate the idiot that thought this was the best offer for Buchnevich

 

[Profet]

I don’t understand why the hive mind decided to hate Blais. Not his fault he was traded for Buch and he certainly got hugely effed with the cheap shot injury.

It's not personal... The guy just isn't an NHL player anymore.

 

[TopShelfSnipes]

We don’t hate Blais.. we hate the idiot that thought this was the best offer for Buchnevich

Exactly, I harbor nothing against Blais as a human being. I harbor a ton of resentment at the fool who made that deal, and the fools who insisted on running him out there for damn near 40 games after it was apparent in the preseason he wasn't ready because the org refuses to eat a sunk cost.

 

[bhamill]

Was it more than just the ACL? I never saw that mentioned

Yeah. ACL and MCL both were torn.
“The 26-year-old is still finding his way after a serious knee injury that required surgery to repair a torn ACL and MCL. He has just five points through 38 games this season, failing to score a single goal.”
This was a really f***ed up injury. Honestly he may never make it all the way back to form. you never know, but we did know it wouldn’t this year if he does.

Sammy Blais Sent On AHL Conditioning Loan

The New York Rangers have recalled Will Cuylle from the AHL, while sending Sammy Blais back on a conditioning stint. …

www.prohockeyrumors.com

We don’t hate Blais.. we hate the idiot that thought this was the best offer for Buchnevich

Blais wasn’t the offer for Buchnevich. It was cap space, a second rounder, and Blais that they traded for. Why does everyone keep trying to frame this as a straight up Blais for Buch deal?

 

[EdJovanovski]

Yeah. ACL and MCL both were torn.
“The 26-year-old is still finding his way after a serious knee injury that required surgery to repair a torn ACL and MCL. He has just five points through 38 games this season, failing to score a single goal.”
This was a really f***ed up injury. Honestly he may never make it all the way back to form. you never know, but we did know it wouldn’t this year if he does.

Sammy Blais Sent On AHL Conditioning Loan

The New York Rangers have recalled Will Cuylle from the AHL, while sending Sammy Blais back on a conditioning stint. …

www.prohockeyrumors.com

Blais wasn’t the offer for Buchnevich. It was cap space, a second rounder, and Blais that they traded for. Why does everyone keep trying to frame this as a straight up Blais for Buch deal?

Okay so it was Buchnevich for Blais, Nemeth & Reaves

 

[bhamill]

Okay so it was Buchnevich for Blais, Nemeth & Reaves

Hahaha. I think the 2nd was traded for Copp and the cap space was used for Vatrano Copp and Motte I guess. The point it is Blais wasn’t supposed to be plugged into the lineup for Buch.

 

[barriers]

Called back up according to the AHL transactions list TheAHL.com | The American Hockey League

 

[cwede]

Called back up according to the AHL transactions list TheAHL.com | The American Hockey League

Surprised he wont play today for Pack

 

[will1066]

So by the logic of some people here who say put kids in the A to get some minutes and confidence, the same could be said for this guy, and we should see a renewed confident Blais scoring at least 0.5 PPG upon his return.









Correct?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Send Kravtsov down for conditioning next.

Let him attempt to rebuild what little value he has

 

[xsniper11x]

I get being angry about the Buch deal. However, unless you were ok just self renting, which likely would’ve had a worse outcome given our deadline adds and PO run, I don’t know what other options we had? Nobody wanted to part with a 1st. If they had, Buch would’ve went to that team. FLA chose RHS Reinhart over Buch.

The NHL knew our cap situation and our need for a C more than W, so what exactly is the alternate reality here? Buch is extended and we have 3 Ws signed LT w/ trade restrictions, 3 top 10 picks that play W and only 1 reliable C that has yet to be extended? I miss Buch, but I don’t see what the options were besides self rent, and so did the other GMs.

 

[TopShelfSnipes]

I get being angry about the Buch deal. However, unless you were ok just self renting, which likely would’ve had a worse outcome given our deadline adds and PO run, I don’t know what other options we had? Nobody wanted to part with a 1st. If they had, Buch would’ve went to that team. FLA chose RHS Reinhart over Buch.

The NHL knew our cap situation and our need for a C more than W, so what exactly is the alternate reality here? Buch is extended and we have 3 Ws signed LT w/ trade restrictions, 3 top 10 picks that play W and only 1 reliable C that has yet to be extended? I miss Buch, but I don’t see what the options were besides self rent, and so did the other GMs.

Not sign Goodrow, Reaves, and Nemeth and find decent bottom 6 players are at or near the league minimum as was done with Vesey?