Salary Cap: Salary cap to increase ~10% next season

The Beyonder

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If we didn't have so many free agents, this news would be even better. But we only have 12 guys signed, with 28 million, and many of our players are going to ask for raises with the cap going up. If we resign everyone with the same cap hit, we're looking at only a 6.7 million increase, not much to add free agents with. Have to move Kulemin, Reimer/Bernier, Fraser, Liles, and push it up to about 15.2-16.2. Lets 13-14 million if we factor in raises to Gards and Phanuef. Maybe go after 2 of Girardi(5 miill), Statsny(5-5.5 milll), and Tallinder(4-5 mill), may be ott if we can clear more cap space. I don't know, but we really need to move some dead weights and improve this offseason. I just wish we had more players under contract.
 

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Cap going up doesnt mean its fine to overpay for our players. That leaves us in the same crappy situation we started with
 

JackJ

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This increase doesn't include the new TV deal so a similar increase the following year is possible.
 

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If we didn't have so many free agents, this news would be even better. But we only have 12 guys signed, with 28 million, and many of our players are going to ask for raises with the cap going up. If we resign everyone with the same cap hit, we're looking at only a 6.7 million increase, not much to add free agents with. Have to move Kulemin, Reimer/Bernier, Fraser, Liles, and push it up to about 15.2-16.2. Lets 13-14 million if we factor in raises to Gards and Phanuef. Maybe go after 2 of Girardi(5 miill), Statsny(5-5.5 milll), and Tallinder(4-5 mill), may be ott if we can clear more cap space. I don't know, but we really need to move some dead weights and improve this offseason. I just wish we had more players under contract.

We're sitting in okay shape. Not great, but okay. We have about 43 million committed to 12 players, leaving us 28 million to sign 11.

UFA's
For argument's sake........Let's say Phaneuf will get 7. Bolland gets 4. McLement gets 1.5. Raymond gets 1.5. That's 14 million.

RFA's
For arguments's sake.....Let's say Reimer gets 3.5. Gardiner gets 1.5. Holland gets 1.2. That's 6.2 million.

Franson & Kulemin are gone, I bet.

That leaves us with 7.8 million bucks to spend, and 4 guys to sign, and we have to replace Kulemin & Franson.

I think we could easily add a couple of 3 million dollar players to replace those two, and then we're left with 1.5-2 million for a couple of "filler" guys/kids.
 

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All the RFAs and Bolland, McClement, Kule

Its gets grey after that.

Having only 12 players signed, might be the incentive to the turnover we need.
 

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I would sign:

Bolland(4 or less years, prefer 2-3 to be honest)
Raymond(only if under 3.25, over 3 is a stretch for me as well)
Franson(4 mill or so for 3 years or less, if he wants longer closer to 3 mill, 3rd pairing guy with top PP skill as well) The JML deal would be pretty good for him IMO
Phaneuf(Under 8 million, if not deal him at the deadline for what you can)
Holland(1-2 year, 2 way)
D'Amigo(1 year, 2 way)
Reimer(1-2 year deal if he wont accept deal him)
Gardiner
Edit: I forgot Kulemin, sign him.

Edit: adding Komarov, if he is willing to come back get that man in the blue and white.

Assuming we sign Bolland we can let McClement go, its no shot at him but I think he will get overpaid after this year due to the amazing work he does on the PK but he is redundant with both Bozak and Bolland on our team.

Edit: That leaves us with good cap space to tweak our defense, hopefully find some guys that can play responsible minutes in the top 4, leaves the door open for a Centerman of any quality, from first to 4th line as well so we will have some options with who to sign. Hope the defense tweak works and our team starts to compete at the highest level, right now our forward core is pretty much on the books for a while other than a few minor pieces excluding Kadri but he is RFA.
 
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The Winter Soldier

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I would sign:

Bolland(4 or less years, prefer 2-3 to be honest) Must Sign
Raymond(only if under 3.25, over 3 is a stretch for me as well) Bye
Franson Bye
Phaneuf(Under 8 million, if not deal him at the deadline for what you can) Must Sign
Holland(1-2 year, 2 way) RFA
D'Amigo(1 year, 2 way) RFA
Reimer(1-2 year deal if he wont accept deal him) RFA
Gardiner RFA
Kulemin Bye
Mcclement Bye
Fraser Bye
Ranger Bye

Assuming we sign Bolland we can let McClement go, its no shot at him but I think he will get overpaid after this year due to the amazing work he does on the PK but he is redundant with both Bozak and Bolland on our team.

My opinion. RFA only to market value otherwise we deal them.
 

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I would sign:

Bolland(4 or less years, prefer 2-3 to be honest)
Raymond(only if under 3.25, over 3 is a stretch for me as well)
Franson
Phaneuf(Under 8 million, if not deal him at the deadline for what you can)
Holland(1-2 year, 2 way)
D'Amigo(1 year, 2 way)
Reimer(1-2 year deal if he wont accept deal him)
Gardiner

Assuming we sign Bolland we can let McClement go, its no shot at him but I think he will get overpaid after this year due to the amazing work he does on the PK but he is redundant with both Bozak and Bolland on our team.

so you wanna trade away our best D man during a playoff race/playoffs? Lol. Nonis has said numerous times he can wait till June/July to sign Dion. He will not be traded mid season.
 

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My opinion. RFA only to market value otherwise we deal them.

Franson will be an interesting one. With the numbers he has posted he's due for a big payday.

However, he has failed to be anything more than a PP specialist despite lots of opportunities to become a legitimate top 4.

I guess Nonis deals him as we have Gardiner, Liles and Rielly as top PP options to fill his spot. We've also got Brennan who's a PPG in the AHL and Finn in the system.

I'd really like the 4 million or so that I'm roughly guessing Franson will get paid used on a Scuderi type Dman who's actually tough to play against. I mention Scuderi because Nonis tried to sign him last off-season.
 

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so you wanna trade away our best D man during a playoff race/playoffs? Lol. Nonis has said numerous times he can wait till June/July to sign Dion. He will not be traded mid season.

I never said I want to, but if we end up having to choose between giving him a 64 million dollar contract 8x8 or even 8x7 that is insanity. If I have to choose between having Dion for a CHANCE at a playoff run where we aren't favorites for the cup and 7-8 years of being crippled by his cap hit and losing out one at the VERY least 1 first round pick and a top level prospect or 2 first round picks, yes trade him plain and simple. Of course it is too early to tell but if trends continue we won't even be in a playoff spot come the deadline so the whole playoff argument might be invalid by then. I am hoping we can get up out of the wild card spot by then, maybe I will feel different but if we are clinging to 8th spot in the east or worse at the deadline I would seriously consider pulling the trigger if he wants 8 million and insane term.
 

pucci2001

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My opinion. RFA only to market value otherwise we deal them.

Just because Reimer is RFA doesn't mean he will accept what we offer him. He has proven to be a character guy but he also wants to be a number one and we didn't exactly show an overwhelming amount of faith in him when we picked up Bernier so he might want a bigger contract than we should dish out, maybe a good offer ends up on Nonis' desk too, never know its going to be an interesting off season for him I think. If he signs a deal like Bernier's that would be ideal.
 

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so you wanna trade away our best D man during a playoff race/playoffs? Lol. Nonis has said numerous times he can wait till June/July to sign Dion. He will not be traded mid season.

Nonis has been pretty consistent with FA/UFA signings, he will have a number in mind and he only wants players that want to be here.

If Dion wants be a Leaf he will probably be signed. I think 7 x 7 should be the neighbourhood price for him.
 

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Nonis has been pretty consistent with FA/UFA signings, he will have a number in mind and he only wants players that want to be here.

If Dion wants be a Leaf he will probably be signed. I think 7 x 7 should be the neighbourhood price for him.

Dion at 7 X 7 would be a good deal.

Teams that want to be competitive have players that take less to keep teams together, and as captain could set an example.
 

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Keep Bolland, McClement, Phaneuf (Kulemin and Raymond depending on the price)
Sign all our RFAs (although trading Franson if we acquire a DFD I wouldn't mind)

Try for Girardi and/or Stastny in UFA

This cap increase can be good or bad for the Phaneuf negotiations. If Phaneuf was aiming for 7mill under the old cap, then 7 mill at 71 cap would be less than 10% and a good deal. How ever if Phaneuf was aiming for 11% of the cap than he may ask for 8 mill....
 

Ricky Bobby

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Is it really a hometown deal when the Leafs are probably paying him a bit more than he's worth?

Ranger having a 1 million cap hit is a good deal for us.

1 million doesn't buy much at all.

The problem isn't Ranger, the problem is that Ranger is averaging close to 20 minutes a night because aside from Phaneuf we don't have another top pairing Dman to eat up close to 25 minutes a night.

I'll take Ranger at 1 million as a bottom pairing option over options we've had (some of whom make or made far more than 1 million) like Lebda, Kostka, Fraser, O'Bryne, Holzer, Komisarek everyday of the week.
 

Ricky Bobby

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I never said I want to, but if we end up having to choose between giving him a 64 million dollar contract 8x8 or even 8x7 that is insanity. If I have to choose between having Dion for a CHANCE at a playoff run where we aren't favorites for the cup and 7-8 years of being crippled by his cap hit and losing out one at the VERY least 1 first round pick and a top level prospect or 2 first round picks, yes trade him plain and simple. Of course it is too early to tell but if trends continue we won't even be in a playoff spot come the deadline so the whole playoff argument might be invalid by then. I am hoping we can get up out of the wild card spot by then, maybe I will feel different but if we are clinging to 8th spot in the east or worse at the deadline I would seriously consider pulling the trigger if he wants 8 million and insane term.

I hope we get Phaneuf extended as well on a deal that makes sense.

With the cap going up significantly next season and the following season once the Rogers deal kicks in paying 7 or us is absolutely fine by me.

If we did end up trading Phaneuf than it would set us back a few years which means we should go towards a full youth movement built around Kessel, JVR, Kadri, Rielly. Trading Lupul and Bolland would than be necessary to gain even more assets as their win now players in their primes who probably only have a few seasons of their prime left.

Hopefully we just get Phaneuf extended!
 
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Faltorvo

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Dion at 7 X 7 would be a good deal.

Teams that want to be competitive have players that take less to keep teams together, and as captain could set an example.

Well ,why not shoot for 8 x 6.125m then?
 

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I don't think Leafs are looking to sign Phaneuf for 8 years given his age.

Basing it off some news reports I have read in past months that I vaguely remember.
 

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McClement's value is in his PK and he is arguably one of the best in the entire NHL

All the stats say otherwise. He's not even one of the best PK forwards on the Leafs, let alone in the entire league. Don't confuse "getting a lot of ice time on the PK" with actually being great at it.
 

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