The Winter Soldier
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sign Stastny and Timmonen and Bolland, drop Phaneuf
sign Stastny and Timmonen and Bolland, drop Phaneuf
So you want a 38 year old defenseman to play 25 minutes a night for the leafs?
You just don't seem to get it. No one equates offence with McCelement, that is not what he brings to the table. I don't know what that is so hard to understand. Next you are going to say Kessel isn't of value because he needs to play the PK and be a better PK overall. McCelment was a major part of a very successful PK last year, and even this year up until the recent slump. Not only did he have more PK time than anyone in the entire NHL last year, many were very upset that he didn't win or get more serious consideration for the Selke. Combine that with a cap going up to likely 71 million, you are having a problem giving one of the best 4th liners and one of the best PKers, leaders of the team and harder workers 2 million per? And you justify this because he doesn't score enough?
Please find me that list of comparables from good teams that would have McClement inked to a long term deal of 2+. That is all I ask.
Actually well you're at all find me a list of PK specialist players like McClement who have aged well. McClement will be 31 in the spring. Comparables like Pahlsson, Betts, Reasoner were all out of the league well before their 35th bday after they lost a slight step. McClement will also have time catch up on his body but the question is when. It could come rather soon.
I know what he brings and what he doesn't bring to the table. I'm absolutely fine having McClement on my team but at the right price and contract length. That should be a very simple concept to understand.
Please find me that list of comparables from good teams that would have McClement inked to a long term deal of 2+. That is all I ask.
Actually well you're at all find me a list of PK specialist players like McClement who have aged well. McClement will be 31 in the spring. Comparables like Pahlsson, Betts, Reasoner were all out of the league well before their 35th bday after they lost a slight step. McClement will also have time catch up on his body but the question is when. It could come rather soon.
I know what he brings and what he doesn't bring to the table. I'm absolutely fine having McClement on my team but at the right price and contract length. That should be a very simple concept to understand.
Would love Girardi and Stastny, but someone like Bozak would have to be traded to make room.
Plus that's kind of a pipe dream that both will make it(although i've heard stastny wants out, he may change his mind with how good they are playing now.)
Could let UFA Bolo walk and Boz 3c
Moen?
Id much prefer Bolland at the 3 spot over Bozak, he's proven to be dependable in high pressure situations(i.e two stanley cups)
trade Bozak if it comes down to it, his cap isnt bad.
Id much prefer Bolland at the 3 spot over Bozak, he's proven to be dependable in high pressure situations(i.e two stanley cups)
trade Bozak if it comes down to it, his cap isnt bad.
Id much prefer Bolland at the 3 spot over Bozak, he's proven to be dependable in high pressure situations(i.e two stanley cups)
trade Bozak if it comes down to it, his cap isnt bad.
I don't see McClement getting much of a raise. It isn't like he has drastically raised his value playing here, he has been the same player for us that he has been for pretty much his whole career.Please find me that list of comparables from good teams that would have McClement inked to a long term deal of 2+. That is all I ask.
Actually well you're at all find me a list of PK specialist players like McClement who have aged well. McClement will be 31 in the spring. Comparables like Pahlsson, Betts, Reasoner were all out of the league well before their 35th bday after they lost a slight step. McClement will also have time catch up on his body but the question is when. It could come rather soon.
I know what he brings and what he doesn't bring to the table. I'm absolutely fine having McClement on my team but at the right price and contract length. That should be a very simple concept to understand.
Players like Bozak and Bolland while not flashy, you need them to win. You keep both, or Nonis will be wasting more assets trying to find top Centers of this quality that are already scarce in the NHL. Bozak's cap hit is ony 4.2M for an all around Center that will likely produce 52-55 pts per season when healthy. I would easily give Bolland 4.2 for similar production with all the other things he brings to the table.
I don't see McClement getting much of a raise. It isn't like he has drastically raised his value playing here, he has been the same player for us that he has been for pretty much his whole career.
Its not like he broke out or took his game to a whole new level with the Leafs, this is who he has always been. A lot of people just didn't notice or really know about him before. Partly because he played out west and partially because he doesn't have the kind of game that gets noticed unless you see him play regularly. He may have raised his profile a bit with the average fan because of the attention the Toronto market but GM's around the league always knew all about him.
It should also be noted that he reportedly left money on the table to play for the team he grew up watching meaning he probably wants to be here.
He will probably get a slight raise but I don't see it being over 2m.
Sign Ranger if he's willing to take another hometown deal.
Why not both? Play one on the wing with Bozie taking all the faceoffs. If this year has shown us anything it is center depth is never a bad thing.
He is scoring at a 10 point pace. No raise there. He and Kulemin both picked the wrong time to lose their offense. They will both be back.
Willing to bet Kulemin takes a "hometown discount" to stay in Toronto.
Doesn't he have a young wife and kid here?