Salary Cap: Salary cap to increase ~10% next season

[Mess]

Don't forget Kessels pay rise kicks in and will eat some of that up.

Kessel = +$2.5 mil raise

minus

Armstrong, Tucker, Scrivens & Frattin buyouts and salary retention = - $2.5 mil

Salary Cap effect = 0 or balanced

So Leafs can use the full increase to their advantage after Kessel's deal kicks in.

 

[HOCKEYGOON]

I wish we would have signed Dion before news of the cap going up by a lot.

Now he's going to demand more of the pie.

 

[New Liskeard]

Don't forget Kessels pay rise kicks in and will eat some of that up.

Leafs will have around 28 million to spend next year, including Kessel already being signed. I bet if Kessel waited for this news, he likely could have gotten more from the Leafs as Phaneuf now will.

 

[Gary Nylund]

I wish we would have signed Dion before news of the cap going up by a lot.

Now he's going to demand more of the pie.

This.

I bet if he waits for UFA status, he gets 9 million a year from someone.

 

[colchar]

I wonder if all of those who have been crying about what a terrible cap position the Leafs were supposedly going to be in next year (even before anyone knew what the cap was going to be!) will relax a bit now?

 

[Hanta Yo]

This.

I bet if he waits for UFA status, he gets 9 million a year from someone.

No way does anyone offer Phaneuf 9 million.

Good thing there aren't too many "must sign" players. Phaneuf is probably the only one; Bolland, Reimer, and McClement are high priority. Kulemin I'd like to stay, but who knows.

 

[Gary Nylund]

No way does anyone offer Phaneuf 9 million.

Good thing there aren't too many "must sign" players. Phaneuf is probably the only one; Bolland, Reimer, and McClement are high priority. Kulemin I'd like to stay, but who knows.

Strongly disagree. Someone would have given him 8 before, and the price just went up to 9. D-men like Phaneuf are almost impossible to find. I hope we resign him first but if we don't, you just watch!

 

[Diatomic]

No way does anyone offer Phaneuf 9 million.

Good thing there aren't too many "must sign" players. Phaneuf is probably the only one; Bolland, Reimer, and McClement are high priority. Kulemin I'd like to stay, but who knows.

9 Million is too much but I can definitely see someone offering Phaneuf something like 8 years 8mil per

 

[Patience]

Considering that the cap got lowered with the new CBA plus the league didn't adjust the salary cap after the first shortened season, I think it's probably exactly the increase we should have expected. This changes nothing in terms of contract negotiations for the Leafs other than giving certainly to Nonis about the numbers he's dealing with. Bolland and Phaneuf are the team's only critical UFA's. Gardiner and Franson are the team's only critical RFA's and neither one is having a great season so don't expect either to bust the bank.

 

[frankthetank91]

So like I predicted we will have enough to re-sign everyone if we want too and it will increase again the following season. People worry over nothing.

 

[Mess]

9 Million is too much but I can definitely see someone offering Phaneuf something like 8 years 8mil per

Leafs are the only team that can offer him 8 years.

As a UFA the CBA max is set at 7 years.

Its an incentive for players to remain with their own teams.

 

[Ricky Bobby]

You do realize that not all 3rd liners and 4th liners are expected to put up points? McClement's value is in his PK and he is arguably one of the best in the entire NHL, and to expect offence makes no sense whatsoever.

The cap increase brings value without question to Liles and his contract. I noticed many have not shown Franson to be re-signed. The leafs main targets should be

Orpik/Girrardi, and I expect Reimer to be traded this offseason for help on the blueline, possibly even packaged with Gardiner.

I also don't support paying a guy 2+ million like some people propose for a guy who has 3 points in 30 games. As good as he is defensively him adding absolutely nothing offensively hurts.

I'm of the belief that like Pittsburgh, Boston, Chicago are set up McClement PK specialist shouldn't get paid very much. Like Handzus (1), Kruger (1.325), Adams (700K), Campbell (1.6).

If McClement wants to sign for his current cap hit of 1.5 or less than bring him back but if he wants much of a raise that is money that is being directly taken away from fitting in another higher end player.

Guys like Goc, Fiddler, Boyle, Moore are also UFAs that serve the same role that are options this summer.

 

[Primary Assist]

I think McClement's contract value won't be seen til the end of the season. If the Leafs still have a bottom 10 PK then he probably won't be looking at too much of a raise, if we can improve to anywhere near last year then he'll easily be making more

 

[Patty Lee]

Heatley, Dany » L MIN 32 $7,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Gaborik, Marian » R CLB 31 $7,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Vanek, Thomas » L NYI 29 $7,142,857 2014 (UFA)
Thornton, Joe » C SJS 34 $7,000,000 2014 (UFA)
Marleau, Patrick » L SJS 34 $6,900,000 2014 (UFA)
Boyle, Dan » D SJS 37 $6,666,667 2014 (UFA)
Stastny, Paul » C COL 27 $6,600,000 2014 (UFA)
Phaneuf, Dion » D TOR 28 $6,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Miller, Ryan » G BUF 33 $6,250,000 2014 (UFA)
Iginla, Jarome » R BOS 36 $6,000,000 2014 (UFA)
Cammalleri, Mike » L CGY 31 $6,000,000 2014 (UFA)
Timonen, Kimmo » D PHI 38 $6,000,000 2014 (UFA)
Markov, Andrei » D MTL 34 $5,750,000 2014 (UFA)
Alfredsson, Daniel » R DET 40 $5,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Gionta, Brian » R MTL 34 $5,000,000 2014 (UFA)
Hemsky, Ales » R EDM 30 $5,000,000 2014 (UFA)
Whitney, Ray » L DAL 41 $4,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Legwand, David » C NAS 33 $4,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Jokinen, Olli » C WPG 35 $4,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Brodeur, Martin » G NJD 41 $4,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Hiller, Jonas » G ANA 31 $4,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Pitkanen, Joni » D CAR 30 $4,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Michalek, Milan » L OTT 29 $4,333,333 2014 (UFA)
Callahan, Ryan » R NYR 28 $4,275,000 2014 (UFA)
Zidlicky, Marek » D NJD 36 $4,000,000 2014 (UFA)
Roy, Derek » C STL 30 $4,000,000 2014 (UFA)
Meszaros, Andrej » D PHI 28 $4,000,000 2014 (UFA)
Jagr, Jaromir » R NJD 41 $4,000,000 2014 (UFA)
Quincey, Kyle » D DET 28 $3,775,000 2014 (UFA)
Halak, Jaroslav » G STL 28 $3,750,000 2014 (UFA)
Salo, Sami » D TBL 39 $3,750,000 2014 (UFA)
Thomas, Tim » G FLA 39 $3,750,000 2014 (UFA)
Orpik, Brooks » D PIT 33 $3,750,000 2014 (UFA)
Koivu, Saku » C ANA 39 $3,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Mitchell, Willie » D LAK 36 $3,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Stajan, Matt » C CGY 29 $3,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Schultz, Nick » D EDM 31 $3,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Dubnyk, Devan » G EDM 27 $3,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Tallinder, Henrik » D BUF 34 $3,375,000 2014 (UFA)
Bolland, Dave » C TOR 27 $3,375,000 2014 (UFA)
Steen, Alexander » L STL 29 $3,362,500 2014 (UFA)
Girardi, Dan » D NYR 29 $3,325,000 2014 (UFA)
Robidas, Stephane » D DAL 36 $3,300,000 2014 (UFA)
Nabokov, Evgeni » G NYI 38 $3,250,000 2014 (UFA)
Moulson, Matt » L BUF 30 $3,133,333 2014 (UFA)
Phillips, Chris » D OTT 35 $3,083,333 2014 (UFA)
Samuelsson, Mikael » R DET 36 $3,000,000 2014 (UFA)
Setoguchi, Devin » R WPG 26 $3,000,000 2014 (UFA)
Vrbata, Radim » R PHX 32 $3,000,000 2014 (UFA)
Grabovski, Mikhail » C WAS 29 $3,000,000 2014 (UFA)
Jokinen, Jussi » L PIT 30 $3,000,000 2014 (UFA)
Klesla, Rostislav » D PHX 31 $2,975,000 2014 (UFA)
Greene, Matt » D LAK 30 $2,950,000 2014 (UFA)
Ott, Steve » C BUF 31 $2,950,000 2014 (UFA)
Kulemin, Nikolai » R TOR 27 $2,800,000 2014 (UFA)
Morris, Derek » D PHX 35 $2,750,000 2014 (UFA)
Downie, Steve » R PHI 26 $2,650,000 2014 (UFA)
Stempniak, Lee » R CGY 30 $2,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Cogliano, Andrew » C ANA 26 $2,390,000 2014 (UFA)
Niskanen, Matt » D PIT 27 $2,300,000 2014 (UFA)





UFA 2014. Expect most teams to resign these guys considering the cap will be going up...

Oh see what I did there

and how many do you think will still be UFA come July?

 

[Gary Nylund]

9 Million is too much but I can definitely see someone offering Phaneuf something like 8 years 8mil per

Only the Leafs can offer him 8 years, other teams are only allowed to offer 7.

I'd be willing to bet a lot he gets 9 if he holds out for it. Players who can make that kind of an impact on a game do not hit free agency often. I'll bet teams line up to offer him a 7x8 deal and I'll bet that at least one team is willing to spend the extra 1 million a year if that's what it takes.

Look at the millions they throw around on other players. Not to beat the CLarkson horse to death (again) but how many millions is he being paid for his supposed intangibles?

Look what Suter got as a free agent. Yes I realize there is a cap now but just look at all the people in the cap going up thread rejoicing. They're falling all over themselves saying how awesome, we can sign all our guys and have money left over. You think if we had the opportunity to sign some other elite d-man (or centre) that is being paid 8 million somewhere else and earning it that we wouldn't be willing to pay 9 million a year to have him? If we could for example have Getzlaf, Weber or Tavares for 9 million a year do you really think we would say "nah, not a penny more than 8"?

If Phaneuf hits free agency and goes to the highest bidder, he gets a 7 year deal for 9 million a year. Bank on it!

 

[New Liskeard]

I also don't support paying a guy 2+ million like some people propose for a guy who has 3 points in 30 games. As good as he is defensively him adding absolutely nothing offensively hurts.I'm of the belief that like Pittsburgh, Boston, Chicago are set up McClement PK specialist shouldn't get paid very much. Like Handzus (1), Kruger (1.325), Adams (700K), Campbell (1.6).

If McClement wants to sign for his current cap hit of 1.5 or less than bring him back but if he wants much of a raise that is money that is being directly taken away from fitting in another higher end player.

Guys like Goc, Fiddler, Boyle, Moore are also UFAs that serve the same role that are options this summer.

So if a player doesnt put up any points he has no value? Wow, that's pretty awesome. You may want to look around the league, the majority of 3rd and 4th liners are not used as scoring options. It truly amazes me that you fail to realize that not only did McClement lead the NHL in PK time, but he also helped make the PK for the Leafs the best it has ever had in many many years. That's the value, yet here you are talking about needing scoring to validate value? Goc and the others do not have the same impact on special teams as does McClement. You really should do some research before posting.

 

[New Liskeard]

No way does anyone offer Phaneuf 9 million.Good thing there aren't too many "must sign" players. Phaneuf is probably the only one; Bolland, Reimer, and McClement are high priority. Kulemin I'd like to stay, but who knows.

I would be willing to bet you that the Oilers would offer that easily to Phaneuf if he hit the open market, I'd almost guarantee it. Philly and Anaheim are two other teams that would go balls out to get Phaneuf as well.

 

[Derrty]

 

[Faltorvo]

9 Million is too much but I can definitely see someone offering Phaneuf something like 8 years 8mil per

Only we can offer 8 years.

 

[Faltorvo]

Only the Leafs can offer him 8 years, other teams are only allowed to offer 7.

I'd be willing to bet a lot he gets 9 if he holds out for it. Players who can make that kind of an impact on a game do not hit free agency often. I'll bet teams line up to offer him a 7x8 deal and I'll bet that at least one team is willing to spend the extra 1 million a year if that's what it takes.

Look at the millions they throw around on other players. Not to beat the CLarkson horse to death (again) but how many millions is he being paid for his supposed intangibles?

Look what Suter got as a free agent. Yes I realize there is a cap now but just look at all the people in the cap going up thread rejoicing. They're falling all over themselves saying how awesome, we can sign all our guys and have money left over. You think if we had the opportunity to sign some other elite d-man (or centre) that is being paid 8 million somewhere else and earning it that we wouldn't be willing to pay 9 million a year to have him? If we could for example have Getzlaf, Weber or Tavares for 9 million a year do you really think we would say "nah, not a penny more than 8"?

If Phaneuf hits free agency and goes to the highest bidder, he gets a 7 year deal for 9 million a year. Bank on it!

I can't tell if your playen or not.

Dion with a higher cap hit then Crosby?

He would be the 3rd highest cap hit among all players, I think your mad.

 

[Michael Gary Scott]

It's crazy, but I would of signed McClement for 6 years.

We know what we got in him, has been incredibly steady every year, and is so so critical to our team.

2.0 x 6 years would be gorgeus

No, hes not. Hes no better than Tim Brent, or Darryl Boyce. Hes the product of an absurd PKSV% last year. He provides 0 offence, and is above average at best in his own zone. Beyond easily replaceable.

 

[New Liskeard]

No, hes not. Hes no better than Tim Brent, or Darryl Boyce. Hes the product of an absurd PKSV% last year. He provides 0 offence, and is above average at best in his own zone. Beyond easily replaceable.

You might want to look at the PK when Brent was here and how it compared overall in the NHL as to last year and now.

 

[Hurt]

This.

I bet if he waits for UFA status, he gets 9 million a year from someone.

There's no chance.

 

[7even]

I wish we would have signed Dion before news of the cap going up by a lot.

Now he's going to demand more of the pie.

I'm fairly certain Phaneuf's agent was negotiating with a increase if some kind in mind. It's his job.

 

[Hurt]

No, hes not. Hes no better than Tim Brent, or Darryl Boyce. Hes the product of an absurd PKSV% last year. He provides 0 offence, and is above average at best in his own zone. Beyond easily replaceable.

One of the best liners compared to AHL scrubs. Whoa.