Salary Cap: Salary Cap Summer | The Hunt for 3C | Updated cap info in Post #1

[Shady Machine]

Sprong actually made the team two years ago, so there's reason to think he doesn't need to go Jake's route. Opportunity is a big part of the development formula here.

JR basically said otherwise in his press conference on July 1st.

Paraphrasing about Sprong and ZAR "Both are tracking really well and I believe both are going to have real impressive camp which will put themselves in the conversation for where they should start the season. I do believe it's in their best interest to follow the track of Guentzel where you play half a season to a full season in the AHL but we'll see how it goes ya know. Injuries will dictate how much of an opportunity they have at the big camp and their play obviously, but we'll see how it goes"

So to me that means unless there are injuries, both will start the year in the AHL.

 

[AjaxTelamon]

The more I look into Hunwick, the more I like him for this team at the price and term. Covers us when Cole leaves, because no way we're paying him the money he'll get. And puts us seven deep in guys the team has confidence in to play in the post season, as I think Ruh will be completely ready for bottom pairing duty by then, with DP as a wild card.

 

[Giskard]

Staal & Jokinen ? Are we going full Blackhawks to put the band back together

 

[UnrealMachine]

Jordan Staal has averaged 1.60 p/60 over the last 2 years. Good for 151st among forwards with a minimum of 1,000 minutes played.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

The more I look into Hunwick, the more I like him for this team at the price and term. Covers us when Cole leaves, because no way we're paying him the money he'll get. And puts us seven deep in guys the team has confidence in to play in the post season, as I think Ruh will be completely ready for bottom pairing duty by then, with DP as a wild card.

If we let Hornqvist's contract run out we could afford Cole. Same if we keep Hagelin during this season but trade him next offseason for cap relief.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Staal & Jokinen ? Are we going full Blackhawks to put the band back together

the difference would be Staal is still really good, and Jokinen would be taking a much smaller role this time around. I don't see Staal actually making any sense, but I do think Jokinen could be a solid option if we can get him pretty cheap.

 

[AjaxTelamon]

If we let Hornqvist's contract run out we could afford Cole. Same if we keep Hagelin during this season but trade him next offseason for cap relief.

Yeah, we could. But that's a big net loss. I love Cole, but I'm not paying him 4M and dumping PH to keep him, PH is a much more valuable player. Especially considering we'll have Dumo and Hunwick already signed as D first guys, and with Maatta looking a lot more like a guy who may need to be a D first, D zone start kind of player unless he can improve his footspeed.

I for one much prefer Maatta starting in the D zone where he can't get turned around and beat a la that Ryan goal.

 

[mpp9]

Jokinen's a slow perimeter player who doesn't take conditioning seriously. He's the anti-Sully player.

I think the Devils now make the most sense after their trade for MJ. Both he and Henrique are C/LWers and they could use another D-man to help replace Larsson. I would say Maatta fits the bill there. Shero has even said he'd look into moving a forward for a D.

 

[PensPlz]

Staal & Jokinen ? Are we going full Blackhawks to put the band back together

Staal is a proven winner and JJ is a cheap plug that we can use/abuse and upgrade later.

I only mention Staal since whoever fills the third center roll needs to be versatile enough to play 20ish games a season in the 2nd center role. To get a guy like that will cost a premium, sure. I just don't want to have another Brandon Sutter move up the depth chart and just turn into a giant bag of suck.

 

[Darth Vitale]

Yeah the more I think about it the less anyone should be intertaining the Jokinen thing. His speed alone negates value to this team.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Jokinen's a slow perimeter player who doesn't take conditioning seriously. He's the anti-Sully player.

I think the Devils now make the most sense after their trade for MJ. Both he and Henrique are C/LWers and they could use another D-man to help replace Larsson. I would say Maatta fits the bill there. Shero has even said he'd look into moving a forward for a D.

I like that trade in theory, but it still needs to be followed with us adding another LD.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Yeah the more I think about it the less anyone should be intertaining the Jokinen thing. His speed alone negates value to this team.

is he any slower than Bonino? I'll add that I'd only really want to add him if he comes cheap.

 

[Beauner]

Henrique is definitely an intriguing idea. Does anyone know if Mojo is expected to be a center for them?

Henrique makes 4 mil and could certainly be used in a top 6 role. I just wonder if NJ would rather trade Zajac

 

[ZeroPucksGiven]

Jokinen's a slow perimeter player who doesn't take conditioning seriously.

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Source?

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Yeah, I honestly think Shero would consider Henrique for Maatta straight up. Would be tempting, but finding a replacement for Maatta won't be easy.

Yeah, we could. But that's a big net loss. I love Cole, but I'm not paying him 4M and dumping PH to keep him, PH is a much more valuable player. Especially considering we'll have Dumo and Hunwick already signed as D first guys, and with Maatta looking a lot more like a guy who may need to be a D first, D zone start kind of player unless he can improve his footspeed.

I for one much prefer Maatta starting in the D zone where he can't get turned around and beat a la that Ryan goal.

Chances are Horny wants long term. No thanks.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Please trade for Radek Faksa.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Staal is a proven winner and JJ is a cheap plug that we can use/abuse and upgrade later.

I only mention Staal since whoever fills the third center roll needs to be versatile enough to play 20ish games a season in the 2nd center roll. To get a guy like that will cost a premium, sure. I just don't want to have another Brandon Sutter move up the depth chart and just turn into a giant bag of suck.

As nice as that would be, and as much as it's something the guy will be forced to do, I just don't know that it's realistic to add a guy who can effectively do that. The same way that I don't think it's realistic to add someone who can effectively take Letang's role when he's hurt. That's a part of why I like going with a more effective defensive 3C. It's just an easier job than being a scoring center imo. Put them with good wings and let them know that their role isn't changing when they move up a line: just don't get killed.

 

[Beauner]

Yeah, I honestly think Shero would consider Henrique for Maatta straight up. Would be tempting, but finding a replacement for Maatta won't be easy.

I like Henrique but no way in hell do I do that trade. If Maatta goes we need a replacement lined up already

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

I like Henrique but no way in hell do I do that trade. If Maatta goes we need a replacement lined up already

Which i just said.

 

[Shady Machine]

Yeah, we could. But that's a big net loss. I love Cole, but I'm not paying him 4M and dumping PH to keep him, PH is a much more valuable player. Especially considering we'll have Dumo and Hunwick already signed as D first guys, and with Maatta looking a lot more like a guy who may need to be a D first, D zone start kind of player unless he can improve his footspeed.

I for one much prefer Maatta starting in the D zone where he can't get turned around and beat a la that Ryan goal.

Agreed. What Cole does is much more replaceable than what Horny does.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Henrique is definitely an intriguing idea. Does anyone know if Mojo is expected to be a center for them?

Henrique makes 4 mil and could certainly be used in a top 6 role. I just wonder if NJ would rather trade Zajac

I've seen this asked a few times and I just don't see any way a team moves him back to center.

 

[AjaxTelamon]

is he any slower than Bonino? I'll add that I'd only really want to add him if he comes cheap.

I believe he is a bit slower than Bonino, yes. And he's about 1/3 as tough. I liked JJ during his first stint here when a lot of people hated him, and watched him as much as my cable plan allowed last year. And he's really not what he used to be.

He may be a useful player in a very specific situation, but I don't see any reason to try to create that situation for him here, unless he was Mario's cousin or brother-in-law.

 

[ColePens]

Send Shero his mistake in DP and give him Kuhn for Henrique. Let Shero deal with his own mistake.

 

[Giskard]

Am I the only one that remember that J.Staal didn't want to be a 3C on this team?

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Agreed. What Cole does is much more replaceable than what Horny does.

But would you be willing to pay Hornqvist and his body for another five years?