Saginaw Spirit 2022-23 Off-Season Thread

[dirty12]

If you’re basing it off results and roster, what team that’s bidding do you like better? It sure as hell isn’t Niagara or the Soo.

Personally, I do not love any of the bidding (teams) as OHL representatives for next year’s Memorial Cup. An 0-3 result in the round robin is a real possibility.

The Soo does not have the roster or disposable assets to be a viable host imo. The other three could conceivably throw everything at it to become very good teams should they win the bid, but probably not nearly the best OHL team because there will be other teams better now loading up.

Should Niagara win the bid and the lottery, they will have the recruiting power to get two of the top 5 OHL draft eligible and two of the very best imports; and, no issue of traded players willing to report.
But all of the bidders seem too reliant on potential trades and breakout seasons from ‘05s, and will have a hard time building even a top 3-5 OHL team by the deadline imo.
Guelph & OS appear loaded. London will contend with that D. Then there are teams like Flint and Sudbury with the spare parts to pull off the types of moves that the Petes & Sting did this year.

 

[Savard18]

Personally, I do not love any of the bidding (teams) as OHL representatives for next year’s Memorial Cup. An 0-3 result in the round robin is a real possibility.

The Soo does not have the roster or disposable assets to be a viable host imo. The other three could conceivably throw everything at it to become very good teams should they win the bid, but probably not nearly the best OHL team because there will be other teams better now loading up.

Should Niagara win the bid and the lottery, they will have the recruiting power to get two of the top 5 OHL draft eligible and two of the very best imports; and, no issue of traded players willing to report.
But all of the bidders seem too reliant on potential trades and breakout seasons from ‘05s, and will have a hard time building even a top 3-5 OHL team by the deadline imo.
Guelph & OS appear loaded. London will contend with that D. Then there are teams like Flint and Sudbury with the spare parts to pull off the types of moves that the Petes & Sting did this year.

I can’t see the Soo or Niagara producing a Memorial Cup competitive team by next year. Maybe Kingston with some luck and them moving every asset to improve. The Spirit will have Oke in net and a decent core. A lot of kids will still be young and it won’t be easy but I think there’s a possibility for them to get there.

 

[MJ5]

& like 2-4? Who says that stick to soccer

Easy there. Not even soccer fans say it.

 

[dirty12]

I can’t see the Soo or Niagara producing a Memorial Cup competitive team by next year. Maybe Kingston with some luck and them moving every asset to improve. The Spirit will have Oke in net and a decent core. A lot of kids will still be young and it won’t be easy but I think there’s a possibility for them to get there.

I think Kingston might have a better expected roster for next season than Saginaw right now.
The recruiting power that comes with being named host team will allow any of the bidding teams to build very good teams. I just have doubts any can be top six league wide. Maybe Kingston if Hutson and/or McCarthy are sent to the Frontenacs by NHL team.
Does Saginaw have any potential players NHL drafted by round 3 that can be sent their way?

 

[swoopster]

The point I trying to make is a realistic one. The Spirit have Misa and soon to be star in Parekh ( if all progress continues ). After that I see Sapovaliv and Haight as the next most productive goal scorers. The rest of the lineup is serviceable but I see no breakout players there. They will have to pull off trades for two more top goal scorers and another stud dman to make a go. After Oke...then...? 2018-19 team was better with Perfetti and the addition of Tippett and McLeod, and Prosvetov in goal.

 

[swoopster]

& like 2-4? Who says that stick to soccer

THIS is what you want to bring up... how a losing score is posted? Fine, the Spirit lost 4-2 to to flint. Now go find your longest nose hair and pull it out. Come back when you measure it for me.

 

[AGranderson]

THIS is what you want to bring up... how a losing score is posted? Fine, the Spirit lost 4-2 to to flint. Now go find your longest nose hair and pull it out. Come back when you measure it for me.

Ok I’m back Just over an inch. Now what?

 

[swoopster]

Ok I’m back Just over an inch. Now what?

Just busting your chops about how I posted a score, would have preferred it in metric! Carry on

 

[swoopster]

Nice of you to show up when we hit a rough patch. The bid is fine. Stop being dramatic.

Hey kingpin, somebody on our own board has the audacity to post this:

"The losing streak has now reached 6 games with a 4-2 loss at Flint on Saturday night (1/21). Saginaw has won 1 of their 8 games in the month of January after winning 4 straight to close out the month of December."

Talk about dramatic. Why don't you read my post as to why I don't think much of this Memorial Cup quest... then comment back to me.

 

[Kingpin794]

The point I trying to make is a realistic one. The Spirit have Misa and soon to be star in Parekh ( if all progress continues ). After that I see Sapovaliv and Haight as the next most productive goal scorers. The rest of the lineup is serviceable but I see no breakout players there. They will have to pull off trades for two more top goal scorers and another stud dman to make a go. After Oke...then...? 2018-19 team was better with Perfetti and the addition of Tippett and McLeod, and Prosvetov in goal.

If only we had an excess of picks in future drafts to help supplement the line up via trade.

That 18/19 team was made with the type of trades you’re bringing up. Tippet, McLeod, and Murray all trade for. Same with Michnac.

Contending teams don’t go into the season with ready to go teams.

 

[dirty12]

If only we had an excess of picks in future drafts to help supplement the line up via trade.

That 18/19 team was made with the type of trades you’re bringing up. Tippet, McLeod, and Murray all trade for. Same with Michnac.

Contending teams don’t go into the season with ready to go teams.

Windsor, London, NB, Ottawa, Barrie went into the season with ready to go teams; then added.

 

[Kingpin794]

Windsor, London, NB, Ottawa, Barrie went into the season with ready to go teams; then added.

What are those last two words there?

 

[swoopster]

If only we had an excess of picks in future drafts to help supplement the line up via trade.

That 18/19 team was made with the type of trades you’re bringing up. Tippet, McLeod, and Murray all trade for. Same with Michnac.

Contending teams don’t go into the season with ready to go teams.

I respect your opinion and yes, often lurk in the background, and can be a smart ass, but I know the game.

As to your point about contending teams... based on my post, is this a team needing just a few components or are we rolling the dice. The rest of the league will be well aware of what we need and will be dealing from weakness.

I sometimes think it is better to outright win the Memorial Cup than to try to buy it.

Now as an aside, if only Prosvetov hadn't supidly tried to fungo bat the puck the length of the ice... that was a team that could have done it all.

 

[Kingpin794]

I respect your opinion and yes, often lurk in the background, and can be a smart ass, but I know the game.

As to your point about contending teams... based on my post, is this a team needing just a few components or are we rolling the dice. The rest of the league will be well aware of what we need and will be dealing from weakness.

I sometimes think it is better to outright win the Memorial Cup than to try to buy it.

Now as an aside, if only Prosvetov hadn't supidly tried to fungo bat the puck the length of the ice... that was a team that could have done it all.

Those pieces are going to be brought in host or not. There are no dice being rolled. Who cares where we’re dealing from? We have all the ammo we need. It doesn’t matter. The lineup will be supplemented.

 

[twinsdad]

I respect your opinion and yes, often lurk in the background, and can be a smart ass, but I know the game.

As to your point about contending teams... based on my post, is this a team needing just a few components or are we rolling the dice. The rest of the league will be well aware of what we need and will be dealing from weakness.

I sometimes think it is better to outright win the Memorial Cup than to try to buy it.

Now as an aside, if only Prosvetov hadn't supidly tried to fungo bat the puck the length of the ice... that was a team that could have done it all.

I still believe Justin Murray's suspension had more to do with losing that series. In the games the Spirit lost after Prosvetov was suspended, most goals scored were 2 by the Spirit. Hard to win scoring only 2 goals or less per game. That would not be on the goalies shoulders.

Also, Prosvetov's emotional "fungo bat" actually spurred the comeback victory in that game 2, in my opinion. We were down 2-3 when that happened.

 

[swoopster]

Those pieces are going to be brought in host or not. There are no dice being rolled. Who cares where we’re dealing from? We have all the ammo we need. It doesn’t matter. The lineup will be supplemented.

much respect and we will see, hockey talk and not where the throngs will stay, for now anyway.
There is much to be done this year. They face 2 tough road trips in February, make or breakers. We will see.

 

[swoopster]

I now

I still believe Justin Murray's suspension had more to do with losing that series. In the games the Spirit lost after Prosvetov was suspended, most goals scored were 2 by the Spirit. Hard to win scoring only 2 goals or less per game. That would not be on the goalies shoulders.

i remember that, was there and forgot about it, the head check.

 

[Kingpin794]

 

[swoopster]

thanks, but...no thanks

 

[Kingpin794]

thanks, but...no thanks

Any particular reason why?

 

[TcNorth]

Saginaw really needs to get going. Next few games at home are imoortant. Go Spirit!

 

[swoopster]

Any particular reason why?

2024 Memorial Cup Impact- Saginaw County Board of Commissioners- January 17, 2023

line item 15, page 17

"Diversity,Equality and Inclusion Money will be committed by the Saginaw Spirit Ownership to Diversity, Equality and Inclusion. We will be holding education seminars, etc. that will be put on TV and social media.

Playing the game...

 

[Kingpin794]

2024 Memorial Cup Impact- Saginaw County Board of Commissioners- January 17, 2023

line item 15, page 17

"Diversity,Equality and Inclusion Money will be committed by the Saginaw Spirit Ownership to Diversity, Equality and Inclusion. We will be holding education seminars, etc. that will be put on TV and social media.

Playing the game...

Are you not a fan of inclusion?

 

[swoopster]

Please feel to bid on a sweater tonight, and wear it with pride. Many more sweaters championing further diversity will soon be available... fill your closet.

 

[Kingpin794]

Please feel to bid on a sweater tonight, and wear it with pride. Many more sweaters championing further diversity will soon be available... fill your closet.

I would bid on one if I was in Saginaw.

Again, you are insinuating that this is not a good thing. Very odd to tap dance around how you really feel.