Speculation: Sabres Roster Speculation - Pre-season 2023 Edition

[Zman5778]

He's called plenty over the years

If you report on 300,000 trades over 10 years, of course you'll hit on 1 or two.

Dude's less accurate than Russell Westbrick.

 

[Matt Ress]

Sammy - Dahlin
Power - Clifton
Hanifin - Johnson

PP: Dahlin, Power/Hanifin
PK: Johnson, Sammy, Clifton, Hanifin, Dahlin (?)

He'll probably take some of Power's PP minutes, and absorb some of Dahlin and Sammy's PK minutes.

So even though Hanifin is playing a bottom pairing at ES, he'll probably end up getting as much or more overall ice time than Sammy since he'll spend time on both the PP and PK.

24 1st+Joker+24 3rd

Sammy - Dahlin
Power - Clifton
Hanifin - Johnson

PP: Dahlin, Power/Hanifin
PK: Johnson, Sammy, Clifton, Hanifin, Dahlin (?)

He'll probably take some of Power's PP minutes, and absorb some of Dahlin and Sammy's PK minutes.

So even though Hanifin is playing a bottom pairing at ES, he'll probably end up getting as much or more overall ice time than Sammy since he'll spend time on both the PP and PK.

24 1st + 24 3rd + Joker
I would. And you have a guy that can slot up if something happens to the big 2, while keeping them fresh b6 not being scared to play your 3rd pair.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

If you report on 300,000 trades over 10 years, of course you'll hit on 1 or two.

Dude's less accurate than Russell Westbrick.

How do you even know if you don’t read him?

People made this same comment to me before and he ended up being right so excuse me for being able to entertain the idea.

 

[Zman5778]

How do you even know if you don’t read him?

How do you know I haven't?

 

[Fjordsen]

Hellebuyck - trade costs are two high, wants a long term deal at Vasi prices, might not be good if the Sabres keep the same defensive system

Hart - high cost and the report about the 2018 Canadian WJC team is a ticking time bomb

MAF or Gustavsson - MAF would probably retire and there is ZERO way the Wild move Gustavsson

Ullmark or Swayman - in-division, Ullmark might have burned his bridges, Swayman is an RFA due a big deal

Markstrom or Vladar - Markstrom is not getting moved and has a big contract, and Vladar hasn't played much more than Comrie or UPL (55 games) and I'm not sure how he's an improvement over either of them based on last season

Gibson - bad, overpaid, bad attitude, no trade list...

Samsonov - RFA going to arbitration, in-division

DeSmith - not sure he's an improvement over Comrie or UPL

Who else?

I would be fine with rental Helle. I'm fine with 1st+

I would also be willing to pay 1st+ for Hart (of course, after it is known whether he is involved or not)

Ullmark or Swayman could be an option even in the division, we have young centers, and for Boston it is necessary as air, they literally have nowhere to take them and no one will give them to them.

Well, Markstrom's contract is not that big and not for 5-6 years. Adams wanted to get Vladar return from Boston in trade Hall, although he doesn't really look like an upgrade right now, but who knows.

I have already said my opinion on Gibson, I think he would be an interesting option and he will improve in another team.

Yes, and there is already another GM and maybe Samsonov will be available.

DeSmith - 134 GP - 91.2% SV - 2.81 GAA

UPL - 46 GP - 89.8% SV - 3.47 GAA

Comrie - 47 GP - 89.7% SV - 3.32 GAA

 

[1point21Gigawatts]

How do you even know if you don’t read him?

People made this same comment to me before and he ended up being right so excuse me for being able to entertain the idea.

for decades, eklund has had a reputation for blowing smoke and casting a wide net with loose generalizations. You said earlier i should ignore your eklund posts and i will moving forward, but you should be aware that any mention of eklund on HFboards is going to be met with this kind of a response. Almost always. HIs rumors can be fun to talk about, but not worth putting any stock into.

 

[Gras]

We know that a legit proven goalie is a need. Here's the problem: Who do you think we could realistically acquire and more importantly what are you willing to give up that would be an acceptable return for the other team?

The question is, what goalie do you think they can reasonably acquire, and that can put up a .910 or higher behind this team.

 

[Sabresbyswords104]

any chance for a forward ?

 

[Gras]

any chance for a forward ?

Trade VO, sign Tatar would be my choice.

 

[Dingo44]

I would be fine with rental Helle. I'm fine with 1st+

I would also be willing to pay 1st+ for Hart (of course, after it is known whether he is involved or not)

Ullmark or Swayman could be an option even in the division, we have young centers, and for Boston it is necessary as air, they literally have nowhere to take them and no one will give them to them.

Well, Markstrom's contract is not that big and not for 5-6 years. Adams wanted to get Vladar return from Boston in trade Hall, although he doesn't really look like an upgrade right now, but who knows.

I have already said my opinion on Gibson, I think he would be an interesting option and he will improve in another team.

Yes, and there is already another GM and maybe Samsonov will be available.

DeSmith - 134 GP - 91.2% SV - 2.81 GAA

UPL - 46 GP - 89.8% SV - 3.47 GAA

Comrie - 47 GP - 89.7% SV - 3.32 GAA

No way I have zero interest in paying a 1st+ for a one-year rental. We're not winning the Cup next season. That would be extraordinarily poor asset management.

Don't know how they get Swayman - even if Boston puts him up for trade we'd be outbid. Ullmark isn't coming back.

I'm not even thinking about Hart until he's cleared and definitely if he's not.

They aren't trading Markstrom and we don't want Vladar unless it's a change of scenery swap with Comrie I guess.

Gibson sucks, his attitude sucks, he costs too much, and he's paid too long.

Samsonov isn't coming here. Toronto isn't letting him go either.

DeSmith isn't the upgrade you think despite one season of better numbers.

 

[Fjordsen]

No way I have zero interest in paying a 1st+ for a one-year rental. We're not winning the Cup next season. That would be extraordinarily poor asset management.

Don't know how they get Swayman - even if Boston puts him up for trade we'd be outbid. Ullmark isn't coming back.

I'm not even thinking about Hart until he's cleared and definitely if he's not.

They aren't trading Markstrom and we don't want Vladar unless it's a change of scenery swap with Comrie I guess.

Gibson sucks, his attitude sucks, he costs too much, and he's paid too long.

Samsonov isn't coming here. Toronto isn't letting him go either.

DeSmith isn't the upgrade you think despite one season of better numbers.

Well, that's your opinion, mine is different. I would pay 1st. This is a rental for the whole season, not at TDL. Helle will not only help reach the playoffs, but will also be a good mentor for Levi and take the pressure off him. I disagree it's poor asset management.

Maybe or not, not many teams have the assets that we have and Boston really needs it.

I already said, trade if Hart has nothing to do with it.

Again, I disagree about Gibson, but ok.

What one season? These are stats for an entire career in the NHL. He is much more experienced than Comrie and UPL and has decent stats. A guy who plays 30-40 games and splits games with Levi. It will also probably be cheap.

 

[Sabre the Win]

No way I have zero interest in paying a 1st+ for a one-year rental. We're not winning the Cup next season. That would be extraordinarily poor asset management.

Don't know how they get Swayman - even if Boston puts him up for trade we'd be outbid. Ullmark isn't coming back.

Who will outbid our farm system?

If we really wanted a player we could get them. It just depends what you are willing to give up.

 

[Dingo44]

Who will outbid our farm system?

If we really wanted a player we could get them. It just depends what you are willing to give up.

Fair point - we could outbid anyone but I'm sure past the point where the Sabres would be comfortable.

I'm not against the idea of Swayman but I don't see that happening at all. And the Bruins have to agree to the trade within the division.

 

[Sabre the Win]

Fair point - we could outbid anyone but I'm sure past the point where the Sabres would be comfortable.

I'm not against the idea of Swayman but I don't see that happening at all. And the Bruins have to agree to the trade within the division.

I personally don't care about Swayman either but I dare a team or a fan base to try and think they could get into a bidding war with us for anyone.

 

[HOOats]

Fair point - we could outbid anyone but I'm sure past the point where the Sabres would be comfortable.

I'm not against the idea of Swayman but I don't see that happening at all. And the Bruins have to agree to the trade within the division.

I assume filing for arbitration means that offer sheets are no longer a possibility..? Because a team missing so many of its own draft picks in the coming years would be a great and hilariously defenseless target for a sheet...

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

How do you know I haven't?

Why would you read something you think is nonsense? Pretty sad if you keep tabs on a person you think is spinning nothing but bullshit.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

for decades, eklund has had a reputation for blowing smoke and casting a wide net with loose generalizations. You said earlier i should ignore your eklund posts and i will moving forward, but you should be aware that any mention of eklund on HFboards is going to be met with this kind of a response. Almost always. HIs rumors can be fun to talk about, but not worth putting any stock into.

I've been posting his stuff here since 2013 and been getting the exact same responses as yours -- I'm sure you've said the same thing to me before.

Even when he just reports that teams are talking about a player, which can never be disproven, people go bonkers and can't help posting about how much they think he sucks, like anyone hasn't heard that a million times.

 

[RefsIdeas]

I've been posting his stuff here since 2013 and been getting the exact same responses as yours -- I'm sure you've said the same thing to me before.

Even when he just reports that teams are talking about a player, which can never be disproven, people go bonkers and can't help posting about how much they think he sucks, like anyone hasn't heard that a million times.

I'll say this about Eklund:

Bob McKenzie has given him credit for breaking a couple trades, and the two seemed to have a good relationship when Bob was more active. Eklund blows a ton of smoke, but I do think he gets wind of legit information from time to time. The problem is that it's nearly impossible to tell what's real from what's nonsense.

 

[Beerz]

He's called plenty over the years -- if you don't read him, how do you even know? He's wrong a lot, but so is Kevin Weekes.

He just reports on which teams are talking but he usually doesn't have many details. He's been consistently reporting on Calgary and Buffalo talking for a while now, and others have too.

Imagine comparing Eklund to Weekes

 

[CaliSabresfan24]

Imagine comparing Eklund to Weekes

Weekes did botch the Calgary offer for Eichel tho

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

Weekes did botch the Calgary offer for Eichel tho

He definitely got played by Adams & Co in a likely attempt to push the Vegas deal over the finish line.

 

[CaliSabresfan24]

He definitely got played by Adams & Co in a likely attempt to push the Vegas deal over the finish line.

Lol I know, Weekes is more credible out of the two. I was just being a smartass

 

[Irie]

Risk is the kind way to put the goalie plan.

Malfeasance is more accurate.

We have an organization that can afford known but opts for hope instead.

You believe Levi will do what no one ever does? Fine. Most teams wouldn’t but all of them would, at least, partner him with a known. They opt to hope that UPL does something he hasn’t done since juniors. Play goalie well.

We needed a known top 4 D who can play big minutes…proven to play big minutes. They hope Clifton can do it Instead.

We have nine D and people are on his board advocating for Joker, who is trash, to play on the third pair. Because they hope he can do it. playing on the opposite side. Based on nothing in his actual game…but they hope.

Quinn is out for half the year and who knows how long until he’s right after that…game shape and all. Are they hoping that their worst forward will somehow fill in in a bigger role? Are they hoping a kid steps up to do it? They sure didnt acquire a known.

There’s a lot of reasons they got to 12 years in the playoff drought when no team in history has done so. The above is the reason they’ll get to 13. Their entire plan is based on hope and ifs. Any other organization has what we have to work with…they‘re building a winner. Not hoping for one.

This is what you get when there is no organizational standard and no consequences for failure.

 

[Sabreality]

Just a friendly reminder there IS a goaltending thread, just so we don't have to talk in circles over and over and over in 2 threads

 

[Snippit]

I've been posting his stuff here since 2013 and been getting the exact same responses as yours -- I'm sure you've said the same thing to me before.

Even when he just reports that teams are talking about a player, which can never be disproven, people go bonkers and can't help posting about how much they think he sucks, like anyone hasn't heard that a million times.

What evidence do you have that he's doing nothing more than making hundreds of claims until something sticks?

Because in my view, the way you get credibility as an insider is by making claims and being correct about them. And his rate is atrocious, so you must be using some other metric.