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Maukkis said:
When was the last time a top 2 goalie in the entire sport was available?

Norris + UPL + 45th + 4th OR Helenius OR "Östlund + 20th"

is a fair package that simultaneously ensures / improves your odds at the following:

a) you have the best goalie tandem in the Atlantic next year,
b) Florida doesn't have the best goalie tandem in the Atlantic next year,
c) you don't have to gamble on whether Norris stays healthy,
d) you open up enough cap space to keep Tuch, if necessary, and
e) you massively improve your goaltending without subtracting anyone from your actual core,
f) you get to retain at least one top C prospect no matter what for the future, and
g) you don't waste a year of Tage and Dahlin's primes by ending up with the 24-25 version of UPL.

I don't need to explain the deal from the Jets' perspective in too much detail; it's a re-tooling move, we are significantly worse for it next year, and we take on a f***ton of risk with Norris and UPL - one has a concerning injury history, and the other hasn't proven himself to be a reliable starter yet. We give up by far the best piece in the deal, and are compensated accordingly.

(If it's McLeod instead of Norris, remove pick #45 - that, however, probably doesn't leave enough cap space for Tuch, so that's why I'd stick to Norris in a deal. Worse for the Jets, but more sensible overall.)
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If Jarmo gives up even 25% of that he needs to be locked up
 
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amnesiac said:
even after getting Nemec and having no good forward prospects in their system? odd
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If Malhotra and Bjorck are gone I can see the Flames trading down to try and get Lawrence or something. Another dman seems overkill. The Verhoeff and Carels stuff was before the trade
 
HaNotsri said:
If Jarmo gives up even 25% of that he needs to be locked up
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It would truly be awful to improve your team without sacrificing anything from the only Sabres roster in recent memory that succeeded in anything.

I guess the deal would now work without UPL or Norris in it, but making it cap neutral seemed like the way to go with the uncertainty around Tuch. 4th OA, Helenius, or a package of Östlund and 20 is non-negotiable, we need to get a shot at a future top 6 C out of the deal in any event.
 
HaNotsri said:
Honestly don't think we're a good match. Other teams should bid higher. Why would the leafs even trade Knies? Seems dumb.
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Agreed, but rumour had it #4++ was on the table for him, and seeing how many overpays are happening and the relative value of those that have moved vs Knies, it’s a relative test of circumstances.
 
Bond said:
If Malhotra and Bjorck are gone I can see the Flames trading down to try and get Lawrence or something. Another dman seems overkill. The Verhoeff and Carels stuff was before the trade
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that just means calgary has the best defensive prospect pool in the league. easily. no issues with that.
 
Maukkis said:
It would truly be awful to improve your team without sacrificing anything from the only Sabres roster in recent memory that succeeded in anything.

I guess the deal would now work without UPL or Norris in it, but making it cap neutral seemed like the way to go with the uncertainty around Tuch. 4th OA, Helenius, or a package of Östlund and 20 is non-negotiable, we need to get a shot at a future top 6 C out of the deal in any event.
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We have 4 goalies right now. 3 goalies did well in the nhl last season. Helle turns into a pumpkin during the playoffs. I don't really se how it's an improvement considering his massive cap hit.
We can trade UPL and have three super cheap goalies next season.

We are doing a retool anyway and getting even younger. We might miss the playoffs 26/27 but 27/28 is looking really promising.
 
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