Player Discussion Ryan Strome

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I just can’t see them trading 2 top 6 F
Strome is rfa so they can play hardball
Kreider has to go
Fast I’d trade then sign July 1st

I agree with your statement but if history shows us anything once a player is traded they never come back the following year. I feel Strome and Fast stay, Im worried about DeAngelo as nothing in his personality says he would take a discount to stay here so he is likely gone too. Kreider would be nice to keep short term but I still feel he is worth too much on the market to keep vs his new contract. Hopefully if they do move DeAngelo it's for a forward that fits our timeline and needs.
 
I agree with your statement but if history shows us anything once a player is traded they never come back the following year. I feel Strome and Fast stay, Im worried about DeAngelo as nothing in his personality says he would take a discount to stay here so he is likely gone too. Kreider would be nice to keep short term but I still feel he is worth too much on the market to keep vs his new contract. Hopefully if they do move DeAngelo it's for a forward that fits our timeline and needs.

I must be more missing something so they not have enough space to sign him ?

I get Trouba and Fox are here to stay and they have Keane , Lundqvist but the prospects need time still

Plus can’t they Atleast try DeAngelo on LD ? Keep seeing he played there in sarnia ohl
 
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I agree with your statement but if history shows us anything once a player is traded they never come back the following year. I feel Strome and Fast stay, Im worried about DeAngelo as nothing in his personality says he would take a discount to stay here so he is likely gone too. Kreider would be nice to keep short term but I still feel he is worth too much on the market to keep vs his new contract. Hopefully if they do move DeAngelo it's for a forward that fits our timeline and needs.
Where is DeAngelo going? He is not UFA. He does not have to take a discount.

Regarding Strome, I think that he stays until the Rangers are sure that Chytil can take the reigns full time as 2C. Though again, I believe that if he has found a home that he is comfortable with he would take a discount. Especially when it comes to playing with Panarin.
 
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Where is DeAngelo going? He is not UFA. He does not have to take a discount.

Regarding Strome, I think that he stays until the Rangers are sure that Chytil can take the reigns full time as 2C. Though again, I believe that if he has found a home that he is comfortable with he would take a discount. Especially when it comes to playing with Panarin.

Nothing about the Strome situation makes me want to re-sign him. Which is unfortunate, because I think he's been great this year and I know I'd feel very different if the circumstances were different.

- We've got his replacement already on the team in Chytil, who I think is closer to taking the spot than not.

- He's having a career year, playing alongside a long-list Hart finalist, in a contract year. Whether that's actually a legit concern or not, to me that's got trap written all over it.

- Even a 1 year deal would be tough to work out, since next year's the only one where we're truly cap strapped, and I'd much rather use any available money to re-sign ADA to a longer term deal.
 
I wouldn’t mind keeping him on a smaller deal but when he is not tied to Panarin he doesn’t do much. Like on the PP he is just really bad. I like him as a player but not for a big price
 
Strome should be a stop gap until Barron or someone else (2020 draft) shows up.

I's also like Chytil to play with Panarin, but it's too early I guess.

Business-wise there is no issue in signing Strome to a proper no NTC/NMC deal. He's clearly more valuable than the dude we traded away for him. (Dude who's name I already have forgotten)
 
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Strome should be a stop gap until Barron or someone else (2020 draft) shows up.

I's also like Chytil to play with Panarin, but it's too early I guess.

Business-wise there is no issue in signing Strome to a proper no NTC/NMC deal. He's clearly more valuable than the dude we traded away for him. (Dude who's name I already have forgotten)
Kakko & Chytil have been developing some really nice chemistry, I’d say keep playing them together on the 3rd line and then next season it’ll be Panarin-Chytil-Kakko & KZB
 
obviously you can sell high on strome...but I think it all comes down to cap space. I think keeping him (at least the next couple years during the transition, if not long term) is a smart move because of the versatility and chemistry with panarin. but he will very easily price himself out of our ability to keep him.

I think right now the worst case scenario would be to go to arbitration with him...if he puts up 70+ points, I fear that in arbitration that he'd win an amount that would force us to walk away and lose him for nothing. even with the space created by the brady trade, after signing deangelo its still gonna be tight.
 
I was a proponent of moving Strome before, but given how we don’t have a 3C ready to step in and how we are lacking in wing depth I’ve come around to the idea of keeping him. The versatility along with his chemistry with Panarin are both plusses that add extra value.

Like someone else said, neither Drury or Gomez could center Jagr effectively, but Nylander could. That chemistry sometimes isn’t easy to find and difficult to build.

Also if we want to roll 3 lines, we need players who can actually play those minutes. I believe in Chytil, but even with him Strome is an important piece.
 
Nothing about the Strome situation makes me want to re-sign him. Which is unfortunate, because I think he's been great this year and I know I'd feel very different if the circumstances were different.

- We've got his replacement already on the team in Chytil, who I think is closer to taking the spot than not.
The Strome situation got more interesting with the Kreider extension. Let's forget about personal preferences for a second. We know that not everyone can seamlessly blend with a super star. Buchnevich certainly did not. We certainly have no idea if Chytil will. Having a player who knows his role is to shut up and feed Panarin and who is VERY successful at it is only a positive.

Do I believe that Chytil will eventually succeed as the 2C here? Sure. But he is far from that type of player yet.
- He's having a career year, playing alongside a long-list Hart finalist, in a contract year. Whether that's actually a legit concern or not, to me that's got trap written all over it.
So too is Panarin. By FAR. And no one is concerned about that jump in numbers. And this is not a contract year. He can still go to arbitration.
Even a 1 year deal would be tough to work out, since next year's the only one where we're truly cap strapped, and I'd much rather use any available money to re-sign ADA to a longer term deal.
Clearly there will be moves that are made. But I believe that a good amount of money that were saved by the Sjeki trade will be used on DeAngelo. And if a deal cannot be worked out, the market comps it is and his long term deal will come the following year when contracts come off the books.

My gut feeling is that Strome will not be looking for the last dollar. He has found comfort and trust in a coaching staff and a franchise and has resurrected his career here. He gets to play on a line with one of the best players in the league. The comfort of all that may not be worth it to him to go and try to start again in another franchise.
 
A 60+ point stop gap?
This is part of the "Anyone can just do it" belief that I abhor.

The reality is that I think that Strome is here until they are absolutely sure of Chytil being able to center Panarin. Because that is what you have right now as clearly there's no need to break up Kreider & ZBad and gives the coaching staff the ability to deploy two dangerous lines.

I think that much will be shown by what his ask is when it comes to salary. Even for one year. But I am not ruling out him being here for far more than people think.

With all that said, there is a salary structure to manage. Guess like with Kreider, it will come down to how much of an increase is he willing to take to stay here?
 
The problem with Strome is if you're looking strictly at points, he seems amazing

And then you pull back and look at everything else and realize he's garbage at anything else

That said he looks like a classic player the team overvalues and pays
 
The problem with Strome is if you're looking strictly at points, he seems amazing

And then you pull back and look at everything else and realize he's garbage at anything else

That said he looks like a classic player the team overvalues and pays
You are not looking at Strome via the prism of how many points he is putting up. We all know he is not a 70 point player. You are looking at him as a player that gels very well with one of the top players in the league, knows his role and because of the way he plays with Panarin allows management to deploy to legit top lines. What is that worth? And also what is it worth to Panarin to be somewhere where he has found comfort and confidence AND gets to play with one of the top players in the league?
 
You are not looking at Strome via the prism of how many points he is putting up. We all know he is not a 70 point player. You are looking at him as a player that gels very well with one of the top players in the league, knows his role and because of the way he plays with Panarin allows management to deploy to legit top lines. What is that worth? And also what is it worth to Panarin to be somewhere where he has found comfort and confidence AND gets to play with one of the top players in the league?
That all sounds great until you realize if he's not putting up points he's not a very good player

I can't name a lazier player on defense than Strome right now

A 2 year contract is fine as a bridge for Chytil to take over but anything more is not a wise choice
 
It was 11/24 that Tony D got all pissy on twitter cause bloggers were suggesting Strome wasn't gong to keep shooting 22% (as he'd done through 84 games with NYR) and would probably regress to his career average of 10.3%.

Those nerds needed to watch the games.

in 40 games since, he has 10 goals on 97 shots, which is...........wait for it............10.3%

lol
 
That all sounds great until you realize if he's not putting up points he's not a very good player
That's all that he has done here. And that was before playing with Panarin.
A 2 year contract is fine as a bridge for Chytil to take over but anything more is not a wise choice
I am not advocating signing him to a 6 year deal or to a contract that doubles his current one. I am saying that his value on the team is to keep making great passes to Panarin and keep allowing for Panarin to keep away from playing with ZBad. And there's value in that.
 

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