Player Discussion Ryan Strome

[kovazub94]

Ultimately, I think they move him --- probably in the off-season. I just keep getting a feeling that Strome/Georgiev could end up in a deal together like Stepan/Raanta.

I think there are a number of factors that will come into play: Chytil taking the next steps, Zibanejad being healthy and having established he's the real deal, and the fact that Strome's contact, even at a reasonable rate, might be needed to re-up ADA and/or bring in a support piece that isn't a center...

IMHO the first two considerations should lead to keeping Strome beyond just the offseason while the last one would work against it.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Man, his brother Matthew is one derpy looking dude. Looks like he has an extra chromosome or two.

 

[McRanger]

I could see Strome signing a 1 year deal to get to UFA or a larger multiyear deal but I'm not sure he accepts a 2 or 3 year deal unless his season falls off a cliff.

I also don't see his number as 4m unless its a 1 year deal and even then that seems a bit low. If he scores 50+ points I would think the Rangers offer at any potential arbitration hearing starts at 4m unless they want to lose.

Looking at the last couple of years signings there aren't many that are comparable. Longer term deals to mid-20s late blooming top liners (or top 6ers) are about as common as late blooming top liners. Jason Zucker signed 5 x 5.5, Yanni Gourde signed 6 x 5.16, and Bill Karlsson signed 8 x 5.9.

If his production levels off a bit and he ends up in the ~60 point range my guess is:

1 year in the 4.5m-5m range (probably closer to 5m), or

5-6 years in the 5.5m-6m per range.

 

[SA16]

Yet again in 12 games since Zibanejad got hurt Panarin has scored 10 5v5 points, been on the ice for 13 GF, and 7 GA, so I really don't understand what issue we are solving by putting Zibanejad on his line. His line is already really good and our other lines are weaker.

 

[Bob Richards]

 

[NYR Viper]

Ultimately, I think they move him --- probably in the off-season. I just keep getting a feeling that Strome/Georgiev could end up in a deal together like Stepan/Raanta.

I think there are a number of factors that will come into play: Chytil taking the next steps, Zibanejad being healthy and having established he's the real deal, and the fact that Strome's contact, even at a reasonable rate, might be needed to re-up ADA and/or bring in a support piece that isn't a center.

Obviously, my hope is that he drives up his value as high as possible and helps the Rangers as long as he's here. I also don't consider it be an automatic no-brainer to move him. But when push comes to shove, I think the above factors probably lead to a move.

@Edge

Do you believe the team could really get a similar package back? A high 1st plus good prospect?

If so, assuming Kreider goes for a Hayes-like package at this deadline, that would be 3 1st’s at the 2020 draft. Any apprehension of waiting to trade Strome in the offseason being that the past couple of offseason shave seen what have appeared to be major stalemates in the trade market?

 

[Edge]

@Edge

Do you believe the team could really get a similar package back? A high 1st plus good prospect?

If so, assuming Kreider goes for a Hayes-like package at this deadline, that would be 3 1st’s at the 2020 draft. Any apprehension of waiting to trade Strome in the offseason being that the past couple of offseason shave seen what have appeared to be major stalemates in the trade market?

That I don’t know. I don’t think Strome has the overall value of Stepan, but I think Georgiev might have more overall value than Raanta.

Do I think they’d get a top 10 pick and prospect with that much upside? Probably not. Do I think they could look for a youngish LHD and or a wing? Possibly.

It’s too far out to predict the market, but I think the Rangers would prefer young talent to picks.

If I had to guess, I think they’ll focus on guys in that Lemieux/ADA type range: 22/23 ish players with upside, but who haven’t quite put it all together.

So I’d start looking at names from that 2015 to 2016 draft range who might be moveable.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Strome needs 9 points to tie career high with 50 points, 6 goals to tie last year career high with 18. I want him resigned long-term 5 year deal which takes him to 31, chemistry matters in hockey. his chemistry with Panarin is worth it and he might think so enough to stay here. he is worth it long-term and only 26.

 

[True Blue]

Strome needs 9 points to tie career high with 50 points, 6 goals to tie last year career high with 18. I want him resigned long-term 5 year deal which takes him to 31, chemistry matters in hockey. his chemistry with Panarin is worth it and he might think so enough to stay here. he is worth it long-term and only 26.

My gut feeling is that both he and DeAngelo are writing themselves into the family photo. How that has to work as far as who is moved and when, is up to Gorton and JD to make work with. And that includes the knowledge that Zibanejad will also need to be re-upped while the Rangers are in their window.

 

[NYR Viper]

My gut feeling is that both he and DeAngelo are writing themselves into the family photo. How that has to work as far as who is moved and when, is up to Gorton and JD to make work with. And that includes the knowledge that Zibanejad will also need to be re-upped while the Rangers are in their window.

He just fits like a glove with the Rangers best player and shouldn't cost THAT much. He's versatile and plays in every situation. It's a no-brainer to me to re-sign him and staple him with Panarin for the foreseeable future.

He kind of reminds me of a guy like Brendan Morrison who wasn't overly skilled but played phenomenally with Naslund and Bertuzzi for many years. Or Nylander to Jagr. Or Bailey to Tavares. The list goes on.

Finding guys who compliment eachother, especially when you can get them for less than true market value, is hugely important.

 

[True Blue]

Finding guys who compliment eachother, especially when you can get them for less than true market value, is hugely important.

I do not disagree and also factor in that he has finally found comfort with a franchise and a coaching staff. Is he going to get paid like a 65-70 point player? Probably not. But he is going to get a very nice raise and think that both sides can find room to get comfort for the future.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Ultimately depends on the money, like everything else in life. We’ll see if Ryan values more potential financial security or staying with the boys and a team he’s found a niche on.

It looks more and more like he might not be traded at the deadline regardless of where NYR are at in the standings.

I’m kinda torn. His teammates love him, especially another guy NYR need to re-sign (DeAngelo) and you wonder if trading him could potentially impact TDA’s loyalty as well.

But now would be the time to sell on him and everyone seems to be in agreement he would be pretty easily replaceable.

 

[TaroTsujimoto]

Strome's vision and passing ability are high end. He's such a complete player, too. Easily replaceable, I don't think so.

 

[duhmetreE]

Strome's vision and passing ability are high end. He's such a complete player, too. Easily replaceable, I don't think so.

Sounds like a center we used to know

 

[FIRE DRURY]

Sounds like a center we used to know

Erik Christensen on Meth+Roids.

 

[Vitto79]

So if they go to arbitration it’s 2 years likely then ufa?

I’d do 3 max

 

[GAGLine]

So if they go to arbitration it’s 2 years likely then ufa?

I’d do 3 max

Strome will no doubt elect arbitration unless they can somehow work out a deal before then. If it actually gets to arbitration though, then the max is 1 year, since he only has 1 RFA year left. I don't expect that to happen. I think the Rangers are more likely to re-sign him than trade him, and 3 or 4 years is probably the most they will offer.

 

[TaroTsujimoto]

Strome is currently 8th in the league in primary assists.

 

[Zynbanejad]

The Stromes are both having solid seasons. Excited to see them grow as players.

 

[NYRangers0723]

Strome's vision and passing ability are high end. He's such a complete player, too. Easily replaceable, I don't think so.

Strome is having a very strong year and the trade was great. However I think we can say playing with Panarin has obviously benefitted him too

 

[will1066]

Erik Christensen on Meth+Roids.

Christensen is not near Strome on talent level. I mean, passing ability, maybe, but other departments, Strome is superior. Christensen was a plodder, not much speed. Strome can do everything quick. Not Panarin-level quick, but for reasons nature has yet to reveal, he's good enough for Panarin.

 

[FIRE DRURY]

Christensen is not near Strome on talent level. I mean, passing ability, maybe, but other departments, Strome is superior. Christensen was a plodder, not much speed. Strome can do everything quick. Not Panarin-level quick, but for reasons nature has yet to reveal, he's good enough for Panarin.

Lol I was kidding you silly goose

 

[JC704]

This is Brayden Schenn 2.0. He's a late bloomer.

- Former 5th overall pick
- Switched between center and wing for the first few years of his career; were never truly counted on in a "defensive" role
- Produces with elite players (Strome with Tavares and Panarin; Schenn with Giroux and Tarasenko)

I don't think extending him will break the bank, and at this point I like Filip Chytil as a player, but losing Strome's production will kill this team next season.

I would trade Buchnevich if it meant opening the extra cap to sign Strome IMO.

 

[n8]

Strome needs 9 points to tie career high with 50 points, 6 goals to tie last year career high with 18. I want him resigned long-term 5 year deal which takes him to 31, chemistry matters in hockey. his chemistry with Panarin is worth it and he might think so enough to stay here. he is worth it long-term and only 26.

17 points to exceed any point total Derek Stepan has managed (re: comparing Raanta/Stepan to Georgiev/Strome)

 

[Leetch3]