Player Discussion Ryan Strome

[Trxjw]

And how long do you think they’d need to keep Zibanejad playing 3rd line minutes after he returns?

It's only the 3rd line on paper. Quinn could easily give the top-3 lines significant minutes while letting the 4th line play 7-10 minutes a night.

It's also likely that Chytil or Strome will cool off and Zibanejad can slide into one of their spots if necessary.

 

[Inferno]

Wonder if we can get a first for strome...not only is he putting up numbers...he's still and rfa so he's not a rental.

 

[NickyLongLegz]

I think panarin is so good that anyone who centers his line will have immediate chemistry. I think Strome has been fantastic, but I don’t think it’s necessarily that Strome and panarin have such great chemistry, rather than the case being panarin is just so incredible. That being said, I think if kakko isn’t put on the wing with Mika and panarin, then it should be Strome playing on that wing rather than fast.

 

[Mac n Gs]

And how long do you think they’d need to keep Zibanejad playing 3rd line minutes after he returns?

Not sure honestly. We've seen him take a while to get back up to game speed after his recent injuries, so I'd guess that by the time he's back into game shape, something else will go awry that'll cause them to juggle the lines.

 

[kovazub94]

...That being said, I think if kakko isn’t put on the wing with Mika and panarin, then it should be Strome playing on that wing rather than fast.

This

 

[kovazub94]

It's only the 3rd line on paper. Quinn could easily give the top-3 lines significant minutes while letting the 4th line play 7-10 minutes a night.

It's also likely that Chytil or Strome will cool off and Zibanejad can slide into one of their spots if necessary.

I actually would only consider this set up for a short while, while Zibanejad is getting up to game speed after not skating for weeks. Not a paper third line - minutes too until he’s able to play first line minutes (with first line teammates).

 

[007]

Strome has not shown that he's going to be great away from Panarin, but they both seem so happy together, why ask questions that don't need to be answered?

I think Zibanejad has shown in the past that he can produce on a line with Kreider, and maybe he can get Kreider really going.

We could really have two top lines, like we had with Step and Brass, but even better. Ziba can drive his line, Panarin his.

As good as Chytil has been, I don't see any problem with him helming a "kids line" with Kakko that would be third on paper, but would actually get good, if sheltered minutes. Against other teams' second, third, and fourth lines, both of them could be really dangerous (though I don't know how week their games complement each other).

Do we suddenly have depth at centre?!

 

[True Blue]

I see no reason to break up the current line right now. They're just working too well. Fast is that grit guy that goes in and retrieves pucks when they have to dump it in, and Strome and Panarin have each other in the backs of their heads it's insane.

Keep them where they are and roll:

Buchnevich-Zibanejad-Kakko
Kreider-Chytil-Lemieux
McKegg-Howden-Andersson

You made Buchnevich move to a different position to accommodate Kakko? Why?

There is no reason to break the chemistry. Slide Strome to RW, keep Chytil at 2C where he is doing great and keep Kakko on the third line as he has just started to show confidence. No need to force feed him.

 

[DelZottoHitTheNetJK]

You made Buchnevich move to a different position to accommodate Kakko? Why?

There is no reason to break the chemistry. Slide Strome to RW, keep Chytil at 2C where he is doing great and keep Kakko on the third line as he has just started to show confidence. No need to force feed him.

Because Kakko is a better player than Buchnevich off the wall as evidenced by Buch losing that spot on PP1 to Kakko. Buch can move over for him again until proven otherwise.

how would moving Strome to RW not be breaking the chemistry? That line has been absolutely on fire; look at how many minutes they logged in the last game. That just doesn’t happen unless things are going 200% right. Why mess with it?

 

[True Blue]

Because Kakko is a better player than Buchnevich off the wall as evidenced by Buch losing that spot on PP1 to Kakko. Buch can move over for him again until proven otherwise.

Kakko will certainly be better than Buchnevich is one day. That day is not today.

how would moving Strome to RW not be breaking the chemistry? That line has been absolutely on fire; look at how many minutes they logged in the last game. That just doesn’t happen unless things are going 200% right. Why mess with it?

Because Strome would still be on the line and putting an legit top center on the team's top line cannot be Plan B. Oh, and Panarin certainly showed that he has chemistry with ZBad as well.

 

[Gardner McKay]

Wonder if we can get a first for strome...not only is he putting up numbers...he's still and rfa so he's not a rental.

I said (I think a week ago or so) that it wasn't out of the equation but I wouldn't expect it. The longer he keeps this up, the more it goes from possible, somewhat likely. I mean, it isn't like this is completely unexpected. Strome was a high performer in Juniors, scored 50 points for the Islanders in his first full season and put up more than .5 ppg for us last year. Clearly the talent is there.

 

[Machinehead]

I've been watching him since the last time we had this discussion and I'm actually fine with this:

Yes, he's still shooting absurdly high but he's also on pace for 82 points and I don't think anyone under the sun expects that.

I would like it if somebody on this team played any defense but that's a Rangers issue, not a Ryan Strome issue.

I still think the Rangers need to be diligent about offering this guy a contract if they decide to go that way. I would go short and make him prove it. If he wants more security, which is perfectly understandable, then he'll have plenty of value at the deadline.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

There's talk about Jean Gabriel Pageau getting a 1st......how much better is he than Ryan Strome

 

[Machinehead]

There's talk about Jean Gabriel Pageau getting a 1st......how much better is he than Ryan Strome

He's not.

 

[SA16]

A lot. He's elite defensively. And that's probably more what teams are looking for at the deadline. A shutdown defensive 3C who also can chip in offense.

 

[Machinehead]

A lot. He's elite defensively. And that's probably more what teams are looking for at the deadline. A shutdown defensive 3C who also can chip in offense.

He's better than Strome defensively, I'll give you that, but so am I.

 

[SA16]

He's better than Strome defensively, I'll give you that, but so am I.

Michah's model has him with one of the best impacts in the entire league defensively among forwards. RAPM shows him as extraordinarily good this year/pretty good last year.

 

[McRanger]

He's not.

Unless he's playing the Rangers.

 

[Irishguy42]

Unless he's playing the Rangers.

He is literally God against us.

 

[Edge]

I said (I think a week ago or so) that it wasn't out of the equation but I wouldn't expect it. The longer he keeps this up, the more it goes from possible, somewhat likely. I mean, it isn't like this is completely unexpected. Strome was a high performer in Juniors, scored 50 points for the Islanders in his first full season and put up more than .5 ppg for us last year. Clearly the talent is there.

I think there's a possibility, however small, because he's a center and because there is a level of pedigree there. My hesitation partially stems from creating a similar scenario on here that we saw with Zucc. People ended up being disappointed we didn't land a first for him.

So with that mind, I'm guessing a Grabner-like return, or something similar to what we saw for Zucc last season. The potential value-added is that Strome is a RFA, so whoever acquires him would have control.

But if we can do better than Grabner/Zucc, great. Is anyone really going to complain if there happens to be one team willing to offer up a late first? Of course not.

Having said that, I think there's at least a decent possibility that he is a summertime trade and not a deadline move. I've said it before, but it's not too hard to envision a Stepan-Raanta type package being floated out there.

 

[Machinehead]

Michah's model has him with one of the best impacts in the entire league defensively among forwards. RAPM shows him as extraordinarily good this year/pretty good last year.

He might be trending up. I looked at a three year RAPM and he's barely above replacement level, so that's what I was going off of.

 

[RangersFan1994]

I said (I think a week ago or so) that it wasn't out of the equation but I wouldn't expect it. The longer he keeps this up, the more it goes from possible, somewhat likely. I mean, it isn't like this is completely unexpected. Strome was a high performer in Juniors, scored 50 points for the Islanders in his first full season and put up more than .5 ppg for us last year. Clearly the talent is there.

one reason if they trade him they better get a good offer and not trade him just for garbage like they did with Hagelin and Talbot etc.

 

[Gardner McKay]

one reason if they trade him they better get a good offer and not trade him just for garbage like they did with Hagelin and Talbot etc.

You are comparing apples and oranges. They are irrelevant compared to Strome.

 

[True Blue]

one reason if they trade him they better get a good offer and not trade him just for garbage like they did with Hagelin and Talbot etc.

What does this have to do with Strome?

 

[Anzi]

I've been watching him since the last time we had this discussion and I'm actually fine with this:

Yes, he's still shooting absurdly high but he's also on pace for 82 points and I don't think anyone under the sun expects that.

I would like it if somebody on this team played any defense but that's a Rangers issue, not a Ryan Strome issue.

I still think the Rangers need to be diligent about offering this guy a contract if they decide to go that way. I would go short and make him prove it. If he wants more security, which is perfectly understandable, then he'll have plenty of value at the deadline.

Jesper Fast the defensive god. But yes, a ton of Rangers have worse defensive metrics than they probably should due to the team overall being a dumpster fire on that end. They might not be great defensively but not this bad.