Confirmed with Link: Ryan Reaves to NYR for a 3rd

[egelband]

I was responding to posters who think opponents will change their style because of Reaves. That's nonsense.

It’s not so much the opponents as the Ranger players I’d hope play a little bigger. As with most of these kind of changes, it’s incremental but potentially very valuable.

 

[egelband]

Okay here goes the second post

I don’t think any player is a true ‘deterrent’ in today’s NHL. Reaves will help keep most players honest but there will always be guys willing to cross the line because they are either wired that way or need to in order to stay in the NHL.

In saying that, the reason I have been so determined in my defense of acquiring Reaves over the last year has been more about instilling a culture of aggression into the young players the Rangers are developing. If this organization is going to be successful long term, they need to be able to set the tone and answer the bell on a nightly basis. Often times this is less physical and more mental and requires actual development in an area where most skilled young players have never had to develop up to this point.

We’ve seen for a couple of seasons that this team has not been able to consistently answer physical play even outside of playoff hockey. We have also seen what physical play can do to teams both inside and outside of playoff hockey. It’s still an important element in today’s NHL.

All of that being said, my expectation for Reaves is to come in and be this teams tougher Matt Martin. Someone who brings energy on a nightly basis, throws clean, yet very effective body checks, and answers the bell when other teams may be close to crossing the line to calm things down for the younger developing players on the team.

He’s not going to be some Robocop bully every night but his presence can be felt by doing the above which is exactly what he has done for Vegas for a few seasons. He’s effective at exactly that role and while it’s not ‘sexy’ in terms of stats, it’s also something I am more than excited to have added to a team like this one that is currently constructed.

Yes. This. You said it better than I did

 

[JHS]

who was laughing during the Isles, Caps and Bruins games?

All the Caps heavyweights for that opening line fight were on the bench and the Rangers still arguably lost all three including to Carl Hagelin.

I never said last years roster was not lacking toughness— I just think these moves are so over the top now( literally getting the toughest guy in the league after getting 4 other guys whose leading characteristic is “toughness” is not exactly being subtle.

 

[NYSPORTS]

I never said last years roster was not lacking toughness— I just think these moves are so over the top now( literally getting the toughest guy in the league after getting 4 other guys whose leading characteristic is “toughness” is not exactly being subtle.

they’re all tough on the boards and grind which is no different than the Isles and even the Champs. Reaves is the only real fighter.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Reaves has never been that kind of player. he's been clean basically his whole career. I think you'd be very disappointed expecting this from him, or 99% of players in the league.

Tom Wilson is unique. He's a sociopath and built like a linebacker. He's been in the league 8 years and consistently proves he's a bastard who doesn't have any respect for the game or rules. Wanting a guy to be like him is fruitless.

Reaves litterally went after Backstrom before and near killed graves last playoffs. Lol.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

So you're telling me the Wilson solution is apparently this simple? Then why hasn't it worked? Why's he still throwing dirty hits? The Rangers aren't the only team in the league.

You need to be able to back it up and be a little bit of an ahole by being a fighter going after a star player.

 

[Richard Banger]

Shouldn't we change the title to let everyone know he was extended another year?

@Loki Dog 74 pls

 

[EdJovanovski]

 

[BroadwayStorm]

I think well play him, tinordi, and bring up schneider the first game we play the capitals.

 

[LokiDog]

@Loki Dog 74 pls

I’m a Kraken mod. I can’t do anything here.

 

[Ola]

Okay here goes the second post

I don’t think any player is a true ‘deterrent’ in today’s NHL. Reaves will help keep most players honest but there will always be guys willing to cross the line because they are either wired that way or need to in order to stay in the NHL.

In saying that, the reason I have been so determined in my defense of acquiring Reaves over the last year has been more about instilling a culture of aggression into the young players the Rangers are developing. If this organization is going to be successful long term, they need to be able to set the tone and answer the bell on a nightly basis. Often times this is less physical and more mental and requires actual development in an area where most skilled young players have never had to develop up to this point.

We’ve seen for a couple of seasons that this team has not been able to consistently answer physical play even outside of playoff hockey. We have also seen what physical play can do to teams both inside and outside of playoff hockey. It’s still an important element in today’s NHL.

All of that being said, my expectation for Reaves is to come in and be this teams tougher Matt Martin. Someone who brings energy on a nightly basis, throws clean, yet very effective body checks, and answers the bell when other teams may be close to crossing the line to calm things down for the younger developing players on the team.

He’s not going to be some Robocop bully every night but his presence can be felt by doing the above which is exactly what he has done for Vegas for a few seasons. He’s effective at exactly that role and while it’s not ‘sexy’ in terms of stats, it’s also something I am more than excited to have added to a team like this one that is currently constructed.

Great stuff, and I agree 100%.

And on the deterrent aspect, we have seen opposing teams really going after kids on our team for just about any bigger hit and not letting up.

You can forget about guys like Frederick chasing Lindgren for 60 minutes if Reeves is dress. TF would run into a line in the jungle for sure.

So while we can’t stop guys like Wilson running around making big hits — look at Carlo — we can certainly prevent the literal bullying of our kids.

 

[JHS]

they’re all tough on the boards and grind which is no different than the Isles and even the Champs. Reaves is the only real fighter.

ok- and again I don’t have an issue with these moves— I just was pointing out they are a bit overdone at this point. Seems like the 3rd and 4th line went from a mix of young guys who were trying to make the top 6 to now a tough grind it out type situation. I’m good with that!

 

[Jayan]

I took a day to think about us getting Reaves.. and i love it.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

- John Scott's podcast

3:44-5:59

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

I am more than fine with the trade. I like the extension less, because that speaks to an intent to play him more regularly than his (normal shift to shift hockey) play probably warrants. I prefer him more as a situational guy who dresses for perhaps half the games. Especially given the many other options we currently have at forward.

Not a HUGE deal in and of itself. I’ll hold off judging further until I see what additional moves Drury makes and how Gallant manages Reaves’s usage.

 

[E-Train]

All of the “toughness” moves were good. Goodrow and Blais are not here to fight, Tinordi as the 7D has an easy deal to bury if needed.

Reaves can skate and hit hard on the 4th line and no one will do a thing about it. Trent Frederic lost to Lemieux, he can’t handle Reaves, neither can Wilson, Matt Martin or Morin.

Trouba, Kreider and Lindgren can play nastier without having to do any heavy lifting.

 

[ThirdEye]

- John Scott's podcast

3:44-5:59

That's awesome. I never really doubted this trade/signing but now I like it even more.

No, this won't prevent the ape in WSH from doing ape things but he WILL have to at least answer for it. The level of comfort he'll bring to our younger players (and old) won't be measurable unfortunately but it will not be insignificant

We went from Brett Charmin Howden to one of the toughest SOB's in the league who's no worse offensively. I don't think Drury is overcompensating at all - until the league trends in a different direction you aren't hoisting the cup if you can't go to war and remain standing at the end of it.

 

[LetsGoRangers2021]

Really?

The Rangers moves get Johnston more ice time. That's a net positive to him, not something he dreads.

Net positive for us as well!

 

[LetsGoRangers2021]

This is a great move for them. Reaves is not just a goon. He doesn't need to play a ton, but even his advanced metrics aren't bad for a guy that serves this role.

The team needs a guy to answer the bell and Reaves will do that no matter what. He can get in 50 or so games during the season and not be a detriment to the team.

He also knows the Galant style of play. He knows where to be and his role as a winger in all three zones. Players on his team really like him. That means something too. He can be a guy that can tell each guy in the room how effective this style is if there is indifference with some players.

Agreed. Bonus points if he is a vocal vet that wont allow players to “rick nash games”

 

[NYSPORTS]

ok- and again I don’t have an issue with these moves— I just was pointing out they are a bit overdone at this point. Seems like the 3rd and 4th line went from a mix of young guys who were trying to make the top 6 to now a tough grind it out type situation. I’m good with that!

hasn’t change too much imo. Not sure what the lines will be yet, guessing, the top two are the same/similar. Unless Strome leaves it’s Chytil on line 3 and Barron on 4. The other signings go to the back end of defense.

Laf-Zib-Kakko?
Panarin-Strome-Krav?
Kreider-Chytil-Goodrow?
Barron/Reaves- Roony-Blais?

Still a lot of youth in the wings. Barron is new, Nils, Schneider, Jones possibly Edstrom, Hendrickson, Pajuniemi, Cuylle, Robertson and maybe Berard.

They added a few men.

 

[Kovalev27]

I think the deterrent thing is still there but to me it’s more about the hunter becoming the hunted. It’s a lot easier for Matt Martin to focus on making our guys miserable when he never has to worry about watching his own back or his best players backs. Instead of running around Scott free he has his hands full with a great white looking to bury him and pelech or Dobson any chance he gets. His hands are full dealing with that instead.

 

[Blais to Win]

Brendan Smith on the power play? You’ve lost the game if Tom Wilson is making you do that

*Checks box score*

But we didn't win.

 

[chosen]

I said long term.

Is there even one NHL team with 3 longterm centers? I can't think of one.

 

[chosen]

Net positive for us as well!

So, that means Johnston is happy Reaves is a Ranger which is contrary to the prevailing narrative, here.

 

[Blais to Win]

Is there even one NHL team with 3 longterm centers? I can't think of one.

He wants long term? Wait until he sees Zibanejad's next contract.