Prospect Info: Ryan Poehling Part 4 (No MB talk)

[dinodebino]

What I see is an outright liar.

Danault has had three seasons as a full-time NHLer.

1st season 40 points.
2nd season heading for 40+ points got concussion ended at pace of 40 points.
3rd season pace of 52 points.

What an outright LIAR saying his history is 30-40 points. A few games per year at the beginning of his career don't count today, and you know it.

Not lying. How dare you. We'll see.

Philip Danault is a third liner, a very good one. That's his bed.

 

[Andrei79]

Any rumours on what he intends to do ? I want him signed ASAP.

 

[montreal]

Reminder that not even a small amount of political talk will be allowed.

 

[Dominator13]

Reminder that not even a small amount of political talk will be allowed.

Holy crap. I didn't know.

My bad.

 

[Sysez]

Is Ryan injured?

 

[BaseballCoach]

Not lying. How dare you. We'll see.

Philip Danault is a third liner, a very good one. That's his bed.

Not once did Danault produce between 30 and 39 points in 82 games. He has been a 40+ point player since he first started playing regularly.

 

[HOPE]

Is Ryan injured?

he did get injured last week, he played yesturday but he's not 100% for sure.

 

[Habs10Habs]

Was hoping to see that he'd finally signed. Hopefully we'll hear something in the next day or so.

 

[ECWHSWI]

Not once did Danault produce between 30 and 39 points in 82 games. He has been a 40+ point player since he first started playing regularly.

Danault 3rd season as a regular.
Danault 2nd season with 40+ points.


These are facts. Do not care about you twisting them.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Danault 3rd season as a regular.
Danault 2nd season with 40+ points.

These are facts. Do not care about you twisting them.

The second season as a regular, Danault had a significant lost time with injury.

If missing a lot of games can be ignored by over-zealous posters, then the next one who dislikes Crosby will say that he is a 37-109 point scorer in the last 11 years, and that he had 37-72 points FOUR times. Oh my God!

 

[ECWHSWI]

The second season he had a significant lost time with injury.

If this can be ignored by over-zealous posters, then the next one who dislikes Crosby will say that he is a 37-109 point scorer in the last 11 years, and that he had less than 37-72 points FOUR times.

do not change the FACT he was a regular.

 

[Baksfamous112]

do not change the FACT he was a regular.

So was Crosby at the time. He’s right, Danault has paced 40+ in all of his season where he was considered a regular.

Can’t understand where the 30 pts thing from you and others come from

 

[ECWHSWI]

So was Crosby at the time. He’s right, Danault has paced 40+ in all of his season where he was considered a regular.

Can’t understand where the 30 pts thing from you and others come from

idiotic at best to talk about pace for a season where the player missed close to 40% of the games.

wtf are you talking about ? where did I talk about 30 pts ?

 

[BaseballCoach]

idiotic at best to talk about pace for a season where the player missed close to 40% of the games.

wtf are you talking about ? where did I talk about 30 pts ?

Not you, #dinodebino said Danault was "always" a 30-40 point player prior to this year and that this year was a fluke. So, he expects him to go back to being a 30-40 point player in the future.

I guess that would be a good projection, if he only plays 60 games.

 

[ECWHSWI]

Not you, #dinodebino said Danault was "always" a 30-40 point player prior to this year and that this year was a fluke. So, he expects him to go back to being a 30-40 point player in the future.

I guess that would be a good projection, if he only plays 60 games.

nope, he has 50+ pts this season, so he'll get his 50+ points every season now.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Not you, #dinodebino said Danault was "always" a 30-40 point player prior to this year and that this year was a fluke. So, he expects him to go back to being a 30-40 point player in the future.

I guess that would be a good projection, if he only plays 60 games.

Naturally he will be a 30-40 player when he goes back to playing his designed role. It's why that's Ellers normal point range, if he played top 6 with that pp time and players he would score at the same pace.

Danault is like a lot of guys we've had in the past. Forced into a top 6 role because of a lack of other options (or guys the coach trusts/can develop) and someone has to earn those points. It's why Desharnais had a big season between Cole and Pacioretty.

 

[Baksfamous112]

Naturally he will be a 30-40 player when he goes back to playing his designed role. It's why that's Ellers normal point range, if he played top 6 with that pp time and players he would score at the same pace.

Danault is like a lot of guys we've had in the past. Forced into a top 6 role because of a lack of other options (or guys the coach trusts/can develop) and someone has to earn those points. It's why Desharnais had a big season between Cole and Pacioretty.

Really? Because up until last season, Eller had a carreer 30 points season in 2012-2013 but had 6x 17-28 points seasons in that time frame. He « Broke out » with a 38 points season at 28 years old and is on pace for ~37 points at 29 years old.

 

[Vachon23]

I think the best for everyone is that he signed after the season. Give an other ELC year to MTL and Poehling can rest after his injury.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Really? Because up until last season, Eller had a carreer 30 points season in 2012-2013 but had 6x 17-28 points seasons in that time frame. He « Broke out » with a 38 points season at 28 years old and is on pace for ~37 points at 29 years old.

Yes, so the morale of the story is.. when Eller is put in his third line role consistently (not banished to the fourth line for stretches, or playing LW on mismash lines) he produces 30-40 points as a 3C.. which is what you would see Danault do when given his proper role.

The point is that Danault's production above that threshold is because he's playing up in the line-up and when you do that, you tend to get score effects that increase your raw totals. In an ideal world, we have an actual capable 2C playing ahead of Danault who is capable of 60-70 points.

 

[Habs Icing]

What I see is an outright liar.

Danault has had three seasons as a full-time NHLer.

1st season 40 points.
2nd season heading for 40+ points got concussion ended at pace of 40 points.
3rd season pace of 52 points.

What an outright LIAR saying his history is 30-40 points. A few games per year at the beginning of his career don't count today, and you know it.

I don't think Dino was lying. He said Danault would be a 30 to 40 point center and this year was an exception. So far the stats bear him out.

Personally, I think he is wrong and right. Wrong about Danault's future stats but right about Danault being a #3 when KK develops into......a #2........lol.......I'm sure that last statement will set off a few snowflakes.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Even if Poehling signs, I would think he won't play any games with either Montreal or Laval. He got hurt pretty bad last weekend and although he did play for St. Cloud in their loss to AIC, he wasn't 100%.

I'm sure Bergevin will be aggressive in trying to sign him ASAP, if only to get that out of the way. And let Poehling properly heal and work hard in the off-season to come into camp ready to go.

 

[Price]

Hopefully he gets it done sooner then later... im really scared this kid walks...

 

[Deebs]

With Primeau about to sign, I'm sure Poehling will not be far behind

 

[Price]

With Primeau about to sign, I'm sure Poehling will not be far behind

Lets hope ur right ...

 

[jaffy27]

Naturally he will be a 30-40 player when he goes back to playing his designed role. It's why that's Ellers normal point range, if he played top 6 with that pp time and players he would score at the same pace.

Danault is like a lot of guys we've had in the past. Forced into a top 6 role because of a lack of other options (or guys the coach trusts/can develop) and someone has to earn those points. It's why Desharnais had a big season between Cole and Pacioretty.

Eller is a 20 to 30 pts player.....he’s never hit 40.....has 5 seasons of 20 some points and 3 seasons of 30 some

Eller has 40 and 50pt seasons