Prospect Info: Ryan Johnson, D, 2019 #31 overall: Signed, Rochester (AHL), Recalled 12/5/24
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Zman5778
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He burns year 1 of his ELC this year. He burns his 2nd (of 2) ELC years next year and then he's RFA. Unless he absolutely explodes next year, he's likely to sign a 2/3 year bridge deal at Bryson-esque money (or cheaper).
We’d have his rights longer. Or is “we only can sign him one year and then he’s gonna hold out on us” the new pessimistic thing we’re going to have to hear
CaliSabresfan24
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Yeah I knew he would still be an RFA after his ELC just didn't know his ELC could essentially be one whole year plus like 12-8 games depending where Minnesota finishes this year. College makes things confusing.
Djp
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Jeff Skinner wanted to be closer to home despite the Sabres not being a competitive team at the time.
The being closer to home thing could be overblown. Or maybe it isn't. Just like some guys would want to play for their dad and others wouldn't.
I think there is a lot of stuff with Johnson that we have no idea about. And what will motivate him to sign in Buffalo or elsewhere is all guesswork for us.
Maybe he really like the Twin Cities area and signs with the Wild...
he signing age is 22 so it’s a 2 yr ELC. But i think he needs to play a game in order to burn the 1st yr,
July birthday means he’s a UFA in summer 2028 unles he waits to be a UFA on august 16 when he needs to sign a full 2 yr ELC.
22-23 ELC
23/24 ELC
4 yrs till UFA
if he waits it 2 ELC and 3 more till UFA.
that would got him to wait a year to get higher salary.
only Adams knows in talking to him. I’m sure Ryan realizes Dahlin will play RD. He also should be aware of buffalos lack of prospect D in their system so he has a pretty open path to play in the nhl.
that closer to home things is greatly inflated. It’s something players more often do as a free agent later on. The reason is if they get married and have children in UFA years it is a benefit to have family support With young kids than in your drinking/ frat boy/ party years in mid 20s.
i think Adams would have traded him by now if he wasn’t signing.
Ace
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The first real sign he might be a sabre
dotcommunism
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When Mittelstadt was in a similar situation (expired ELC, but no RFA rights) he just took his QO.
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BG82
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I'd be using him as trade bait, while he still has value.. Of our top 20 prospectsz hed be the guy I'd prefer to be packaged
SECRET SQUIRREL
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Yeah, if he's actually signing there's no way I'd trade him....he's exactly what we're looking for and cost zero assets to add him.
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toddkaz
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The contract situation gives us hope that burning a year is enticing but why sign here when you are so close to free agency.
Those are the two combative points of view.
In terms of straight up trade value in a vacuum, the compensatory 2nd in next years draft may actually have more value than Johnson, so i don't know if there is a huge rush to move him.
You must not watch any NHL hockey outside of the Sabres.
With 32 teams, the D talent is super diluted.
I mean, if you only watched Bryson while he was obviously playing injured and was skating like a shell of his former self, ok. But if you have watched the past couple of weeks when he's been healthy, less than half of the teams in the league have a 6th D that has been as serviceable as Bryson in that stretch.
Every year, a player has a rough stretch and you spend an obscene amount of energy disparaging them in every thread. Then when they start playing well, you choose a new player to target as a scapegoat. Does that ever get tiring? Because it is exhausting to read every day.
Ace
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I watch all the hockey. Bryson isn’t an NHL player and he’s on a team that’s actually trying to be good. You won’t find that combination of that bad and that good anywhere.
So i guess only a handful of teams in the league are actually trying to be good?
Look around the league.
Florida is dressing Mahura. Washington is dressing Matt Irwin (remember him?) Rangers are going with Harpur. Isles with Aho, etc.
Seriously. Look around the league. Bryson would be right there competing for a spot on 75% of teams, and if Buffalo waived him, he'd be claimed in a heartbeat.
Just because he doesn't have top 4 potential does not mean he is not a NHL player. Having top 4 guys in your bottom pairing is extremely rare, and trading for one to play 12-13 minutes a night is not a wise use of assets.
Is Bryson the ideal bottom pairing for this team? Of course not. But to say he is not an NHL player while looking around the league is just ignorant.
The realistic chances of Johnson making the jump from college and outplaying Bryson are extremely slim. Those are the facts.
Zman5778
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I was personally shocked when I found out Kurtis MacDermid was not an option on any all-star ballots....
Djp
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He gets to next contracts faster.
in buffalo
22/23 burns yr 1ELC
23/24 AHL last ELC year
24/25 on Sabres. Likely 1 yr two way contract
3 yrs till UFA In summer 2028
he goes UFA and signs elsewhere…everything is delayed a year. He migh5 not get the chance he has in buffalo because other teams have better ELC prospect pools.
in buffalo it’s him and possibly their 23 1st rounder or high 2nd rounder. Buffalo has Bryson and Lyub contract end in summer 24 so he has an open roster spot he could get in 24/25.
anyone describing joker and boosh as goddamn disasters isn't looking to have a fully honest conversation
yeah, it is unfortunate.
It is sad. There is a small contingent of posters on this board who are not about rooting for the kids and hoping to see them succeed and grow into good players, but are always looking to point fingers and find someone to blame for all of he team's misfortune.
Often it does not matter at all if they were responsible for goals against, just the fact they were on the ice is enough for them to find fault. When everyone plays well, they lay into the GM, because there has to be someone to bitch about every day...
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Yup, they're so angry and bitter that they're totally missing out on enjoying the first fun and likeable team we've actually had in the last 12 years! Exhausting all the way around, such a shame.
I still can’t imagine him signing here. He’s locked out of the top 3 long term. He will likely rarely get power play time here, which is key to getting higher salary on his 2nd and 3rd contracts. If you ignore market desirability entirely, going to a place with 2 1st overall d-men under 23. Maybe I’ll be surprised. But given an opportunity to go to any market or situation or here, I have to think the field might win out.
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