I am sure every GM/Owner in the league would love to see Overheardt CRUSHED so that players will move away from him. I think its a big reason you have not seen any offer sheets. None. Nada. They are unified against this agent and want to see him lose, and lose big. Ryan could be sitting a whole year make $0.00. Future clients may look at that and shy away from this scoundrel.
I have never liked this kids attitude or work ethic. Hopefully he grows up and sees that life is bigger than him.
Well, uh, there may be a lot of mutual hatred for the contract/agent but I think there aren't a lot of teams anyway that could offer up what the Jackets should get for trading Johansen.
But the problem is we have a an egomaniac running our front office, who is more interested in being the face of the franchise himself than having an actual franchise player. Who is now throwing public hissy fits when he doesn't get his way. That is what spoiled, entitled, diva behavior looks like.
Haha, get a load of this guy.
I can't BELIEVE Johansen didn't accept this deal!!!
You know, if Johansen and his agent think he's gonna break out into something big, I can see how they would balk at a contract that averages out to over 5 a year. Honestly a contract like that is poison for both the team and Johansen if the dude is kicking around for a few years into the contract and is convinced he's outperformed it.
And, I mean, that's totally fair if they think he's gonna blow up and totally makes sense if they're asking for a 6.5 bridge out of the gate.
The problem is, he's just not worth
that much. That's really all there is to it. Good on the guy and I hope he gets awesome and on first glance 4-4.5 seems fair but there are other kids skating around there who were more consistent in production and signed for 3.5
Management is using Stepan, Duchene, Couture to come up with their bridge offer. It's a little low, but Joey only has one good season. Still, all three got 5-6% of the cap at the time and for two years.
Overhardt wants double that on a bridge. No one in their right mind would compare Joey to Toews, Stamkos, or Kane.
2 years/$6 million doesn't quite get them up to Duchene or Stepan, but come on...2 years/$13m? If I was JD I would have gone 2/$8 million and then made that the offer you go public with if KO turns it down.
Even if you use % of cap (not $ amounts), you can come up with something reasonable along the lines of Duchene, Stepan, or Couture and their bridge deals. Where is this 2 year / $12-$13 million comparable coming from? (And please don't give me "but Edmonton...")
If you want the big dollars in long term deals out of your ELC then yes your performance over all three years does matter.
Having said that almost 13 minutes a night in his rookie year, well that's a lot of minutes for the 4th line and he played 16 the second year.
Don't make excuses. Toews, Taveres, and Stamkos all had infinitely better starts to their careers and the Jackets already offered him close to Taveres money. They had he put up 70-80 goals in his first three season, this would be a different conversation.
The more numbers people throw around the more obvious it is:
KO is insane and it's extortion.
He might be the best goal scorer on the Jackets, but that doesn't mean the Jackets should pay him like he's a veteran all-star talent. There's a whole league of players and contracts where the numbers go one way- and KO is asking for something that's waaaaaaay out of line.
Every time I hear someone trying to defend the terms and money, they come at it from the standpoint where they compare it to other Jackets players. You're saying the Jackets should
overpay Johansen because he's the best scoring talent on their team.
Give me a break.
And that's what this all boils down to and what the FO is complaining about. His maturity issues don't even matter, because that's not the real reason this deal isn't going anywhere.
