RW Zachary Senyshyn - Sault Ste Marie Greyhounds, OHL (2015, 15th, BOS)

[canwincup]

Senyshyn's 45 goals this season is the highest total of any Greyhound since the 1996-1997 season. The fans hate him.

Just as a comparison Virtanen scored 45 goals in his draft year and a lot of people see him as a bottom 6 player...I think he has top 6 upside but I get why people have questions about his game. Junior stats are a bit misleading.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

I thought Senyshen spent most of the year with Gabe Guertler? I don't recall him playing with Speers until more recently

 

[bearcountry17]

Just as a comparison Virtanen scored 45 goals in his draft year and a lot of people see him as a bottom 6 player...I think he has top 6 upside but I get why people have questions about his game. Junior stats are a bit misleading.

In his pre draft year, yes. He regressed the season after, especially goal wise, and then made his NHL team where he was played and produced as a bottom 6er, Hence people thinking that. But there was a time when Lucic was once just a tough bottom sixer with a bit of skill. I don't think Virtanen will be as good as Lucic but I think he definitely has top 6 upside.

Junior stats definately can be misleading but when you look at returning players, senyshyn has a vastly bigger jump in production than the other players on his team, and that is a good sign of progress. Especially on a team that lost a lot of talent from the year before (100 less GF this season).

 

[SanDogBrewin]

Senyshyn's 45 goals this season is the highest total of any Greyhound since the 1996-1997 season. The fans hate him.

Yah that was a good one, Soo fans are are down on him.

 

[SanDogBrewin]

Tune into the Erie games if you disagree.

Ya so he must always do this in every game he's ever played.. Again, why do we even critique these OHL players?

You certainly need a help sign for yourself. Now it's "every game" instead of watching Erie games ?

Running out of excuses and stances

 

[Anth93]

This thread is a good reminder of how hard it is to read a stat line.

B's fans are happy with his goal output, and that's great, but there's some missing context (or perhaps there isn't if you factor in his assist totals). I'll get out of this thread because I've said enough, but if I had to choose between all the NHL level Greyhound prospects I've seen over the last two years, Senyshyn ranks last. That would be McCann, Ritchie, Speers, Tolchinsky and Bailey.

 

[Anth93]

You certainly need a help sign for yourself. Now it's "every game" instead of watching Erie games ?

Running out of excuses and stances

Well it would be fair to assume if you haven't watched him in the past, you should probably watch his upcoming games?

Is this about the player anymore?

 

[SanDogBrewin]

Well it would be fair to assume if you haven't watched him in the past, you should probably watch his upcoming games?

Is this about the player anymore?

I've watched a ton of his games, will watch more upcoming games and will continue to think it was a great pick. And I will continue to know that you will find whatever it is you need to convince yourself that Seyshyn was a bad pick.

 

[Anth93]

I've watched a ton of his games, will watch more upcoming games and will continue to think it was a great pick. And I will continue to know that you will find whatever it is you need to convince yourself that Seyshyn was a bad pick.

Eh, my allegiance isn't like you probably think, but that's fine..

 

[nbwingsfan]

Never said I knew for a fact he is going to be bad. I'm saying right now it looks like a bad pick, especially compared to the other players on the board. Maybe by 2019 it will change.
The weird part is Bruins fans keep defending this like it's not looking like a bad pick right now; when everyone else knows that it looks bad. The denial is real in here. I mean just look at the last few pages, we have Bruins fans who are still stating that they would rather have Senysyn over Connor, Boeser, Barzal, etc. Senyshyn may be better in the future than all of them (likely not), but if you say he is better right now, you are clearly delusional.

I count exactly 0 Bruins fans who have said they would rather Senyshen over Connor or Barzal or Boesner. Could you quote them if they exist?

All I see are fans defending the posters like yourself and others who are already calling them idiots or calling this draft a disaster when not a single one of us knows how they will turn out. Which is the correct answer.

 

[Elias Pettersson]

I count exactly 0 Bruins fans who have said they would rather Senyshen over Connor or Barzal or Boesner. Could you quote them if they exist?

All I see are fans defending the posters like yourself and others who are already calling them idiots or calling this draft a disaster when not a single one of us knows how they will turn out. Which is the correct answer.

Are you for real? Look literally 2 pages ago where that ridiculous guy said that senyshyn is better than Connor because the OHL is apparently harder to score in than the NCAA

 

[BruinsBtn]

Are you for real? Look literally 2 pages ago where that ridiculous guy said that senyshyn is better than Connor because the OHL is apparently harder to score in than the NCAA

This is one of the dumbest posts in a long time.

Read the thread, try to understand the context. It was directed at the person comparing Speers to Senyshyn and saying Speers was better because he scored more in 10 playoff games.

Man...

I mean, all you have to do is scroll back a few pages and read.

 

[SanDogBrewin]

Read the thread, try to understand the context.

Impossible for that to happen.

 

[Ingy]

Never said I knew for a fact he is going to be bad. I'm saying right now it looks like a bad pick, especially compared to the other players on the board. Maybe by 2019 it will change.
The weird part is Bruins fans keep defending this like it's not looking like a bad pick right now; when everyone else knows that it looks bad. The denial is real in here. I mean just look at the last few pages, we have Bruins fans who are still stating that they would rather have Senysyn over Connor, Boeser, Barzal, etc. Senyshyn may be better in the future than all of them (likely not), but if you say he is better right now, you are clearly delusional.

The fans don't hate him.. all we said is that he's frustrating. He has some games where he can't be stopped. But he also has alot of games where he can't get the puck passed the red line. I think he's a one dimensional player that will not contribute in your own end.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Are you for real? Look literally 2 pages ago where that ridiculous guy said that senyshyn is better than Connor because the OHL is apparently harder to score in than the NCAA

Well that simply didn't happen at all...

Do you have trouble with context or were you just lying and hoping no one would notice?

 

[Elias Pettersson]

Well that simply didn't happen at all...

Do you have trouble with context or were you just lying and hoping no one would notice?

This is one of the dumbest posts in a long time.

Read the thread, try to understand the context. It was directed at the person comparing Speers to Senyshyn and saying Speers was better because he scored more in 10 playoff games.

Man...

I mean, all you have to do is scroll back a few pages and read.

Bruhh.... You guys fail hard. See below

Take a gander at your avatar and you will laugh appropriately.

No, I said the Big Ten is a garbage conference and it is easy to score in.

Yah wow you got it now. Great job and it's ok to disagree but your wrong, the Big Ten has been awful and you still haven't proven that Connor or Boeser will be better than DeBrusk nor Senyshyn in the NHL.

Carry on...Bro

But I'm out. No reason in arguing with disillusioned Bruins fans. I'll look forward to bumping this thread in 3-4 years when Senyshyn establishes himself as a career 4th liner in the NHL.

 

[SanDogBrewin]

But he also has alot of games where he can't get the puck passed the red line. I think he's a one dimensional player that will not contribute in your own end.

I have seen that a lot in prospects that eventually became NHL players. That needs to be coached out. Most young prospects just want to snipe and then get a rude awakening when they get benched.

 

[PB37]

Desmond Hume disappoints once again.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Bruhh.... You guys fail hard. See below





But I'm out. No reason in arguing with disillusioned Bruins fans. I'll look forward to bumping this thread in 3-4 years when Senyshyn establishes himself as a career 4th liner in the NHL.

Can you bold in those two posts where they said that Senyshen is better than Connor? Literally all he said was that the Big Ten isn't a great league (which it isnt). I guess people will just see what they want to see apparently...

 

[PB37]

Speers has assisted on just 12 of Senyshyn's 47 goals this year. Only 8 primary assists. Also 7 of those 12 total assists are on the PP.

I watched handful of games early in the season before hockey streams died and the one thing Senyshyn could do is create and generate his own offense. Most of it was at a time when he separated from playing with Speers. Even if you just sift through the Bruins prospect thread, I'm sure you could find 15 or 20 gif's of his highlight real goals that are 100% individual efforts exploding down the wing at top speed. No question he still has a lot to work on. The notion that his goals are a product of Speers though? I've seen enough to know that is not the case, even if it's only 10 or 12 games prior to the new year and one pre-season match against Detroit.

Thank you for destroying this whole " Speers carried Senyshyn " crock of **** that some people are trying to make up.

 

[smack66]

Bruhh.... You guys fail hard. See below





But I'm out. No reason in arguing with disillusioned Bruins fans. I'll look forward to bumping this thread in 3-4 years when Senyshyn establishes himself as a career 4th liner in the NHL.

I'm not psychic so I have no idea where Senyshyn or other prospects will be in 3/4 years. As a Bruins fan, I was initially surprised by the pick based on all the pre draft mocks that I had looked at. I will however trust our scouts as they have been pretty solid over the last few years.

In reading this thread I can't help but however ask you one question. Are you a fan of the Habs or Canucks because generally it's a fan from one of those two fan bases who blindly hates all things Bruins

 

[93LEAFS]

I'm not psychic so I have no idea where Senyshyn or other prospects will be in 3/4 years. As a Bruins fan, I was initially surprised by the pick based on all the pre draft mocks that I had looked at. I will however trust our scouts as they have been pretty solid over the last few years.

In reading this thread I can't help but however ask you one question. Are you a fan of the Habs or Canucks because generally it's a fan from one of those two fan bases who blindly hates all things Bruins

Just look at someone's posting history quickly, it will usually give you your answer. Pretty clearly a Canucks fan.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

I've watched a ton of his games, will watch more upcoming games and will continue to think it was a great pick.

So you would take him over Connor, White, Barzal, Boeser, Konecny, Beauvillier?

I feel the same as I did at the draft - I would still take all of those guys over Senyshen.

 

[BruinsBtn]

So you would take him over Connor, White, Barzal, Boeser, Konecny, Beauvillier?

I feel the same as I did at the draft - I would still take all of those guys over Senyshen.

Post your pre-draft list.

 

[Montecristo]

So you would take him over Connor, White, Barzal, Boeser, Konecny, Beauvillier?

I feel the same as I did at the draft - I would still take all of those guys over Senyshen.

I'd take him over barzal, boeser, konecny and beauvillier. I don't know why people harp on Senyshyn of all picks the Bruins made in the first. He's outperformed both zboril and debrusk this season. Those should be second guessed before Senyshyn