My scouting report discounts useless games and puts more emphasis on meaningful ones. It also takes into consideration his recent interviews. Sorry if I doubt a magical transformation of a kid who needed a lot of work still over the summer. Yes, he might be better than Kostin. It still does not make one of them a NHLer. His physique also does not suggest he is ready for full scale NHL deployment.
RW Yegor Chinakhov (2020, 21st, CBJ)
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He’s been called back up to Columbus. I think we’ll see him up more often than not. Right now he’s the 13th forward, so expect him to get 40+ games in Columbus, and sent down for quick trips to Cleveland if the schedule allows for it.
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Two reasons. I don't think he is ready to contribute in 40+ games, maybe next year. And I don't think Columbus is desperate for a player like that right now.
Why not ensuring another year of having him on ELC?
Yegor's physical development is the best evidence in favor of his progression. He came into camp at 6'1 189.
He's certainly fast enough and has a good mind for the two-way game. I agree that we will have to see some meaningful games to find out how close he is to having the timing and ability to push play at the NHL level.
Columbus doesn't care so much about ELCs. The clock is already running and we are in the second year of Chinakhov's ELC - something to do with him having signed last Spring.
I've seen his upper body. He needs a lot of improvement there. He might have strong legs which is never bad thing, but from what I've seen he needs to load up above the waist
And year of ELC is a year of ELC. I don't think Columbus(or any team for that matter) would throw that away unless the player is really special and needed right here and now. If he comes into his own next season and has two more ELC years left he would be a cool asset to have.
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I don't think it is possible not to burn the ELC year for him anyway, doesn't matter if he is in the AHL or in the NHL, his contract will end in 2023.
Have you seen Bjorkstrands? Or when random people see Panarin walking down the street do you believe they think "damn, that dude definitely plays hockey". Physiques and builds get pretty overrated these days, you dont have to be a giant to have the strength and you dont need to be the strongest guy on the ice to be successful. Just like any 20 year old ever he will continue to get stronger with time.
As for his on ice play the coaches and management will decide, clearly they see enough to atleast give him a chance to prove himself. Hes mature enough to accept his AHL assignments fine so its easy enough to send him down and let him grow
It's not about letting him grow. I am not questioning his future. He will ineviatbly grow some muscle. I am asking myself if playing in the AHL right now is the best option that was available to him.
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Because it potentially ruins a relationship with him for no real reason, amount of money which isn't even relevant in the big picture. Hell, it arguably isn't relevant even in the small picture.
Little did I know the teams were running circles around players trying to not ruin the relationship, just like in that case with Shipachyov.
It's brought up a lot, but last I checked the teams always think at least business first. Let alone cases when they are hardballing players into doing what the team wants. The whole sweet talk is for the courting period. Once the player is signed teams squeeze value out of them.
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Could you name a single player that has been kept out of NHL just for the purpose to not burn his ELC? Because I have close to a laundry list of ones who were signed in the spring just so that they could burn a year of ELC. And that list does include Columbus' very own Gavrikov and Chinakhov.
Those COVID signings only happenned because of COVID. Because teams were scared to lose prospects. It was a one time thing. Remember? It was a time when it was not clear if there is any hockey in NA soon. So many teams used that as a sweetener to get the players to sign(and not sing some long term contract in the KHL for example with all the unsertainty going on in NA). And it was part of a somewhat crooky deal by the NHL. They would not allow guys like Kaprizov to play, but burn the year of ELC instead.
And every single player who gets the 9 games is "kept out of the NHL" for the sake of not burning the ELC year. Happens every year. Watch it happen this season.
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If I understand correctly it isn't, Chinakhov is too old for that, only contracts of 18-19 year olds can slide, but Chinakhov is already 20. Not to mention that one of his contract years has already been burnt when signing it, it wouldn't be possible if it could slide.
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What are you talking about, it has been a common practice for years. Kuznetsov, Gavrikov, Gusev and many other guys whom I'm too lazy to fact-check burned their ELCs by signing in spring when people had no idea what covid even is.
Upon quick check so have Romanov and Panarin.
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Not burned ELCs but burned a year of the ELC. And it is still different from Chinakhov's(and Kaprizov's) case. It's one thing to sign in spring after the KHL regular season is over and play in the NHL. See Gavrikov. In that case you burn a year of ELC by actually being a NHL player who plays in the NHL. It is another when the NHL expclicitly forbade those players coming over from Europe to play. See Kaprizov. So the teams effectively would not get anything out of a player they signed in that season.
I'm not sure I get what the pandemic had to do with it. Burning off the 1st year of Yegor's ELC last Spring was an intentional part of the pitch from Columbus. A year gets burned off regardless of whether the player plays or not. Gavrikov signed in the Spring and played a bit. Elvis signed in the Spring and did not play.
Okay, then it's really just what Columbus wants to give him based on his play. Thanks.
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The only way I see Chinakhov not playing a decent number of games this season is if Columbus is playing amazing offensive hockey with little to no injuries which sounds rather unlikely. He’s going to get his chances with the big club
Columbus doesn't really care about burning his ELC. They care about what's best for his development. And right now that seems like they want him around the NHL guys. Thankfully Columbus is close enough to Cleveland (90ish minutes driving)they can keep him around the big club and send him back to Cleveland whenever he's not in the lineup so he can get some games in.
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First NHL goal, and an assist for Yegor Chinakhov. That's 4 points in 4 games.
Pretty good for a guy who "might get a few games in the NHL" according to Corey Pronman. Just a month ago Pronman re-drafted the 2020 draft and still had Chinakhov outside of the first round, in a category of guys who might get some games.
Pretty good for a guy who "might get a few games in the NHL" according to Corey Pronman. Just a month ago Pronman re-drafted the 2020 draft and still had Chinakhov outside of the first round, in a category of guys who might get some games.
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