GlassesJacketShirt
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I can completely buy the idea the Rangers were into Boucher, would have perfectly lined up with their drafting record up to that point in time.
RW Tyler Boucher - Belleville Senators, AHL (2021, 10th, OTT)
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I can completely buy the idea the Rangers were into Boucher, would have perfectly lined up with their drafting record up to that point in time.
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Goon42
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yeah, probably double his ahl goal totals
BondraTime
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Ouroboros
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I can't see much of a breakout year coming for him, really. Not statistically, at least. He's going to be far down the depth chart on a fairly deep Belleville roster. Likely earmarked to play on a bang-and-crash 4th line with Keean Washkurak and Hayden Hodgson.
Just staying healthy would be a massive victory for him at this point.
Just staying healthy would be a massive victory for him at this point.
Hockeyville USA
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From potential future Tom Wilson to playing on a 4th line in the A with Keean Washkurak, woof.
Pavel Buchnevich
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What's so deep about the team? It has a few players that could provide NHL value in the future. The rest are career minor leaguers.
Why wouldn't they give him real playing time? Not doing so is trying to sabotage him. Smart teams give their high picks every chance to succeed.
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Teams loaded with career minor leaguers are the ones that tend to win in the AHL. That's what constitutes depth at that level.
Boucher is not going to be 'given' anything. He's going to have to earn icetime by taking it away from the 7 or 8 guys he'll be competing with to get bottom-6 minutes. Is he better than Jamieson Rees, Wyatt Bongiovanni, Oskar Pettersson, Cole Reinhardt, Keean Washkurak, Hayden Hodgson, and Jake Chiasson? Not from what I've seen.
You can forget about his draft status; it just doesn't matter anymore. The current regime running things in Ottawa have no loyalty to this guy and no reason to prioritize his development over anybody else.
It's not even like he has high upside. What's his best-case scenario development outcome? That he becomes Paul Cotter or something?
Pavel Buchnevich
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Okay, so asked and answered. What you are suggesting is not a smart team.
By the way, teams give undeserving high draft picks ice time all the time. An AHL team isn't an all star team. There's ice time available for any player, if you want them to get it.
Many of us absolutely hated this pick when it happened and even moreso now. I expected he’d be playing on the 4th line in the NHL now, not the AHL.
I’m going to say it now - Total bust. What a terrible pick.
I’m going to say it now - Total bust. What a terrible pick.
Goon42
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You are going to look so dumb in 2 years
NyQuil
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Even if he doesn't pan out given his draft position, there's always the opportunity with his skillset to carve out a supporting career, like a Curtis Lazar.
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BondraTime
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This is precisely it.
Ottawa has an absolutely terrible, terrible prospect pool, and Boucher probably isn’t in the top 15 in their system.
- He can’t stay healthy
- When he’s healthy he hasn’t looked good in any league thus far
- His ceiling is non-existent, with everything going right they may get a journeyman 4th liner type.
- Staios, Bowman and Poulin had nothing to do with selecting him. The whole management team, along with the head scout, is gone. There is no loyalty or favouritism towards any of the prospects. The better ones will get attention.
You would think this guy has been successful everywhere he’s played the way you hear about him from some, whereas he’s been bad and injured everywhere. NCAA, OHL, and AHL. He’s a nothing prospect at this point in time, Sens will be extremely happy if he can muck out a journeyman career on the 4th.
Bump the thread in 2 years when he’s playing as a spare player on some local beer league team.
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I'm curious as to whether the sens management is looking at this like "hey, we didn't draft him that high, so let's just see what he can do since his value is so low"
But at the same time I'm wondering why they don't just trade him for a 4th and call it a day.
But at the same time I'm wondering why they don't just trade him for a 4th and call it a day.
Eventually? Still waiting.
Now looks like a lot of people were in fact right.
Very bad top 10 pick at the time, even worst now.
Hockeyville USA
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People are unnecessarily harsh against a kid who's had two major injuries in the past two years and barely played. It's a hard setting to develop. He may take more time if he can get back from the injuries.
Pavel Buchnevich
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Yeah, eventually. He's 21 years old.
Give it some time before taking your victory lap. He's been injured a lot the last few years.
Let him get healthy first before you declare he's a bust and can't play.
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People just love slamming Boucher because in one single draft pick he validates everyone's opinion of Pierre Dorion. Separate the two and he wouldn't be sh1t kicked around here to nearly the same extent.
As others have said he is 21, quit beating him while he is down. I watched +- 15 games of his last year and he is a healthy season and a step or two of progression away from being a decent prospect again. There are NHL tools there, just needs the toolbox.
As others have said he is 21, quit beating him while he is down. I watched +- 15 games of his last year and he is a healthy season and a step or two of progression away from being a decent prospect again. There are NHL tools there, just needs the toolbox.
