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RW Tyler Boucher - Belleville Senators, AHL (2021, 10th, OTT)

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nbwingsfan said:
This guy seems like an absolute moron with very little emotional restraint.

Those players rarely last long in the NHL
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In the NHL, this is a two minute instigator and a pat on the back from his coach. He's a very frustrating prospect, but this is the kind of play that keeps him in the league.
 
Senator Stanley said:
In the NHL, this is a two minute instigator and a pat on the back from his coach. He's a very frustrating prospect, but this is the kind of play that keeps him in the league.
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Yeah, at least his last one turned out to be a slew foot. This one is just the league protecting kids I guess but in the NHL it would just lead to a scrum.
 
Breakers said:
So is this his 3rd suspension in the OHL?

He was suspended in his short stint in the NCAA after being a headcase with constant charging plays with no regard for playing the puck.
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He never should have been suspended for the hit he had it was clean. Now he gets suspended for wanting to fight a guy. The league sucks now its basically no contact. Atleast he is playing his role.
 
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nbwingsfan said:
This guy seems like an absolute moron with very little emotional restraint.

Those players rarely last long in the NHL
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Protecting a teammate for a dangerously high hit is a 'moron without emotional restraint'. What a terrible take. Happens all the time in the NHL. Right on brand for you.
 
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bert said:
Protecting a teammate for a dangerously high hit is a 'moron without emotional restraint'. What a terrible take. Happens all the time in the NHL. Right on brand for you.
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Punching a guy repeatedly on the ground resulting in suspension happens all the time in the NHL? How many suspensions has he had in just the last two years?
 
bert said:
He never should have been suspended for the hit he had it was clean. Now he gets suspended for wanting to fight a guy. The league sucks now its basically no contact. Atleast he is playing his role.
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Which hit?
The NCAA suspension?
Or the OHL?

Becuase the NCAA was a culmination. He was warned on Friday to cut it out with massive charges
He continued again on Saturday and they suspended him as he wasn’t even trying to play the puck
 
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Not sure why they are suspending him after his teammate takes a dirty hit that sets it off. If the guy he tuned doesn't go in with the high hit, there is no fight. Weird.
 
Chainshot said:
Not sure why they are suspending him after his teammate takes a dirty hit that sets it off. If the guy he tuned doesn't go in with the high hit, there is no fight. Weird.
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OHL has a rule against throwing punches once an opponent is down. Boucher obviously was throwing punches when the guy was down.

It’s a 2 minute instigator penalty in the NHL added on to the fight.
 
I think the suspension is a good thing. The reason why Tom Wilson has this out of control reputation is because he crosses the line and gets himself suspended, along with also being a good player that can help the team when he’s on the ice. Players are afraid he’s going to hurt them. That’s what’s starting to happen when Boucher is on the ice. That guy won’t dare try that hit again. It has an effect.

I think a lot of the people that look at Boucher’s counting stats and ask why he was drafted so high fundamentally misunderstand the reason.

Boucher’s game is about being a pain in the ass to play against and also having some offense. If he hits his potential, you get Wilson. If he doesn’t, maybe you instead get Chris Neil.

Is that worth the 10th pick? If he hits his potential, yes. If he doesn’t, probably not. Regardless, Ottawa wanted a very particular player with their pick. There are very few Tyler Boucher’s. They come around like once every five drafts, especially the ones that actually have hockey ability.

You can try to play armchair Director of Amateur Scouting, but time after time we see why the box scores don’t tell the full picture with some players. There would’ve been multiple other teams rushing to pick him soon after Ottawa did, and I think if you polled teams on a re-draft, almost no way actual NHL teams let this guy get out of the first round.
 
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Pavel Buchnevich said:
I think the suspension is a good thing. The reason why Tom Wilson has this out of control reputation is because he crosses the line and gets himself suspended, along with also being a good player that can help the team when he’s on the ice. Players are afraid he’s going to hurt them. That’s what’s starting to happen when Boucher is on the ice. That guy won’t dare try that hit again. It has an effect.

I think a lot of the people that look at Boucher’s counting stats and ask why he was drafted so high fundamentally misunderstand the reason.

Boucher’s game is about being a pain in the ass to play against and also having some offense. If he hits his potential, you get Wilson. If he doesn’t, maybe you instead get Chris Neil.

Is that worth the 10th pick? If he hits his potential, yes. If he doesn’t, probably not. Regardless, Ottawa wanted a very particular player with their pick. There are very few Tyler Boucher’s. They come around like once every five drafts, especially the ones that actually have hockey ability.

You can try to play armchair Director of Amateur Scouting, but time after time we see why the box scores don’t tell the full picture with some players. There would’ve been multiple other teams rushing to pick him soon after Ottawa did, and I think if you polled teams on a re-draft, almost no way actual NHL teams let this guy get out of the first round.
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Tom Wilson showed a lot more offensive potential than Boucher ever has
 
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PatrickMcC said:
Please elaborate how Tom Wilson has shown more offensive potential?
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18 years old - 58pts in 48 games / 17pts in 12 playoff games.

19 years old - NHL

Tyler Boucher:

18 years old - 3pts in 17 NCAA games, quits team… 14pts in 24 games in the OHL

19 years old: 14pts in 15 games. Still not even close to Wilson’s 18 year old season

Someone of Bouchers size, age and speed should be absolutely dominating junior right now if he had any offensive potential of anything outside of a 4th line guy in the NHL
 
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bert said:
I guess you're just new. Show me one time its ended up in disciplin in the NHL.

If you actually followed the OHL you would know that they suspend you for literally anything. The hit he got suspended for was due to the injury not the actual play. I dont know why im responding to you. Look at all your responses in this entire thread. You have an unhealthy hate for the player. If it isnt some wild comment questioning his character you are hating on his game. Its sad.
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The previous suspension in the OHL was a slewfoot which is an automatic suspension, which you would know if you follow the league. If they are a hater maybe realize you're also a homer in this case.

I don't get the Wilson comparisons that much; Boucher is physical and has good size, but Wilson was even stronger with great size and better production. Boucher is in his 4th year of OHL eligibility putting up a PPG in the OHL, whereas Wilson was playing his first season in the NHL at the same age/stage of development.
 
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If we get an early Edmonton Oiler Kassian out of him on a cheap deal during his prime I’ll be happy.
 
Coaches Coroner said:
The previous suspension in the OHL was a slewfoot which is an automatic suspension, which you would know if you follow the league. If they are a hater maybe realize you're also a homer in this case.

I don't get the Wilson comparisons that much; Boucher is physical and has good size, but Wilson was even stronger with great size and better production. Boucher is in his 4th year of OHL eligibility putting up a PPG in the OHL, whereas Wilson was playing his first season in the NHL at the same age/stage of development.
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Anytime you say any single bad thing about Ottawa players/posters you automatically just get called a hater by that poster. I usually just ignore that part from him, you always know it’s coming
 
Coaches Coroner said:
The previous suspension in the OHL was a slewfoot which is an automatic suspension, which you would know if you follow the league. If they are a hater maybe realize you're also a homer in this case.

I don't get the Wilson comparisons that much; Boucher is physical and has good size, but Wilson was even stronger with great size and better production. Boucher is in his 4th year of OHL eligibility putting up a PPG in the OHL, whereas Wilson was playing his first season in the NHL at the same age/stage of development.
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And he didn't become a decent NHLer until his 5th full season in the NHL.
Who cares if he played in the NHL when he was 19; he wasn't the player he is now...
Boucher could also put up a measly 10 points playing with NHLers...
 
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