RW Rocco Grimaldi (2011, 33rd overall, Florida)
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rocketdan9
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red line scouting (or some name like that) has put Grimaldi ranked #9 in the draft after his impressive U 18 performance. Not sure what else this kid has to do, to prove that he is legit
I wouldn't mind one bit if the Bruins took a chance on him.
I wouldn't mind one bit if the Bruins took a chance on him.
YEGJuniorFan
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He's far better. If you're going to compare him to a small guy, Marty St Louis is probably the best comparison. But Grimaldi is a better goal scorer and penalty killer than St Louis is. Grimaldi is also probably better in traffic than St Louis.
nomorekids
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In terms of skill, to compare them would be unfair to Ennis.
Let's put it this way...if Grimaldi is even 5'9 or 5'10, I think he'd be a slam-dunk for first overall.
The only, ONLY thing that's going to see him fall into the late first\early second is that 5'6 number, but I'm confident enough in his strength and skating that I think his raw ability will overcome it.
I'll weep the tears of a 13 year old girl meeting Justin Bieber, if somehow the Preds can either trade up a bit to get him or if he falls to 38.
JawandaPuck
Lost Art of Dynasty
I get the sense that sometimes smaller players are all lumped into the same category...
Rocco Grimaldi
Martin St. Louis
Tyler Ennis
Mathieu Perreault
...when really there is quite a range -- a 4 inch range here...
Rocco Grimaldi - 5.06 | 163
Martin St. Louis - 5.08 | 176
Tyler Ennis - 5.09 | 164
Mathieu Perreault - 5.10 | 174
By that standard then, the next range up would be 5'11" to 6'3". That would require lumping Ty Rattie (5'11) in with Mark McNeill (6'2"). And I don't believe anyone would suggest that.
From BDW...
Rocco Grimaldi
Martin St. Louis
Tyler Ennis
Mathieu Perreault
...when really there is quite a range -- a 4 inch range here...
Rocco Grimaldi - 5.06 | 163
Martin St. Louis - 5.08 | 176
Tyler Ennis - 5.09 | 164
Mathieu Perreault - 5.10 | 174
By that standard then, the next range up would be 5'11" to 6'3". That would require lumping Ty Rattie (5'11) in with Mark McNeill (6'2"). And I don't believe anyone would suggest that.
From BDW...
I remember watching him knock the much bigger Travis Ewanyk off the puck behind the Canada net, leading to a Reid Boucher goal during the U18 tourney last month, and that's the kind of hockey player's contribution where you say to yourself that this kid's drive, will and spirit will overcome his serious size deficit (closer to 5-6, with not a lot of room on the frame to add mass). On the flip side, there are times where Grimaldi will turn away from traffic and stay out on the perimeter, which gives reason for pause, as he won't have success at the NHL level trying to make a living on the outside. He's going to have to go to the dirty areas and play in traffic the way guys like Tyler Ennis and Nathan Gerbe do. If he's willing to do that, then he absolutely has the talent to be an impact player at the highest level.
If Grimaldi turns away from traffic, it's because the better play in that particular play is to do so. If anyone thinks he's afraid to go into traffic either with the puck or to go get the puck, they're mistaken.
He's not.
JawandaPuck
Lost Art of Dynasty
I believe CSS does an official CSS measurement at the combine. Getting back to the BDW's point about room in his frame to add much more mass, here's the most recent picture of Rocco's physique (from NHL.com Combine cover story)...
I recall reading a story about Steve Yzerman hiding socks in his shoes to be "taller" when they measured him before the draft.
JawandaPuck
Lost Art of Dynasty
Rabid Ranger
2 is better than one
JawandaPuck
Lost Art of Dynasty
The official measurement from the combine...
ROCCO GRIMALDI (Rank: #32)
USA U-18 #23
Position: C / Shoots: R
Height: 5' 6.25" / Weight: 160 lbs.
Anaheim, CA, United States
February 8, 1993
ROCCO GRIMALDI (Rank: #32)
USA U-18 #23
Position: C / Shoots: R
Height: 5' 6.25" / Weight: 160 lbs.
Anaheim, CA, United States
February 8, 1993
JawandaPuck
Lost Art of Dynasty
Are you suggesting you don't trust his official NHL vitals...
NUMBER: 26
HEIGHT: 5' 8"
WEIGHT: 176 (Tree Trunk Legs)
SHOOTS: LEFT
BIRTHDATE: JUN 18, 1975 (AGE 35)
BIRTHPLACE: LAVAL, QC, CANADA
Bolt32
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Whoa whoa whoa.....You think Grimaldi will be a consistent 40 to 50 goal scorer in the NHL? You do realize that many 1st overall picks don't even do that. Trust me I'm hoping the Lightning draft the guy, because he seems like he will be a hell of a player. The kid hasn't even played in college yet, never the less the NHL. And your saying hes a better goalscorer than a proven 40 goal scorer at the NHL level.
Did you perhaps mean for his age?
Obviously.
What I was trying to say was that Grimaldi is a better goal scorer relative to his overall game than St Louis is relative to his overall game. St Louis is more of a playmaker than a goal scorer. I should know better than to try to post coherently at 4:30am.
And let's not exaggerate things here. St Louis put up 40 goals once. He's a 30 goal scorer and I don't have any concerns about Grimaldi's ability to score more than 30 goals per season in the NHL when he makes it (obviously assuming he gets scoring line minutes).
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YEGJuniorFan
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5-6 160lbs at age 17/18 is pretty built. he may be short but this guy is not a twig. guys like gionta and st.louis survive because of how solid they are and hard to knock off the puck. grimaldi is worthy of a top20 pick imo , could end up being one of the best players from this draft
RW Rocco Grimaldi - US NTDP, USHL (2011, 33rd overall, Florida)
What a shocker! Who was that clown who had him in a top 10 list???? This kid is only 5'6.
It should have been obvious to anyone who knows anything about hockey that he would NOT be taken in the 1st round. No chance whatsoever. Anyone who felt otherwise, you finally have your proof. Dont like doing "I told you so" posts but this needed to be stated here.
What a shocker! Who was that clown who had him in a top 10 list???? This kid is only 5'6.
It should have been obvious to anyone who knows anything about hockey that he would NOT be taken in the 1st round. No chance whatsoever. Anyone who felt otherwise, you finally have your proof. Dont like doing "I told you so" posts but this needed to be stated here.
i wouldnt be surprised if it was a similar situation to that finish guy last year. Rajala? he was pegged 25-40 and went like 100 or something. he was a very small skilled player as well
Rabid Ranger
2 is better than one
Lots of "clowns" had him in the middle of the first round. Don't pat yourself on the back too hard though....
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