RW Pavel Buchnevich (2013, 75th, NYR)
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Pavel Buchnevich
"Pavel Buchnevich The Fake"
Someone on HFNYR is saying that he/she heard Buchnevich wants to play one more season in the KHL and then join the Rangers because he doesn't want to play in the AHL next season.
Anyone from the Russian side of this hear anything?
Anyone from the Russian side of this hear anything?
People got all obsessed with Duclair but Buchnevich is twice the player. Buch is a complete stud.
Uber jealous
Uber jealous
Synergy27
F-A-C-G-C-E
Twice the player? Man I hope so, but I'm not going that far myself. He is a prospect that is on the same level as Duclair, with the potential to fill the same role in the NHL as Duclair, and it's because of these things that including Duclair in the Yandle deal wasn't the disaster some Ranger haters want it to be.
I'm really excited for him to come over, even more so now that Duclair has been shipped out (and also because I am still not over the McIlrath pick!
).
Pavel Buchnevich
"Pavel Buchnevich The Fake"
Duclair gets the hype because he's Canadian, but I agree that Buchnevich is better. I don't think he's twice the player because twice as good as Duclair would be a Eichel or McDavid type of forward, but I think Buchnevich has a clear but not huge advantage.
Go to 2:00 of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W6e145mv7E
That goal might be my favorite goal of this. Really don't think any NHL goalie gets close to stopping that. Thats as good of a shot as you will see.
Joey Bones
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Didn't hear anything. As of right now the latest report has the Rangers trying to sign him for now!
http://snyrangersblog.com/prospects...ing-to-bring-pavel-buchnevich-over-right-now/
FLYLine27*
BUCH
IMO, both have similar upsides. Here is how I look at them.
Buch has a bit more offensive potential, but Duclair will be the better complete player.
Buch has a lot to learn still defensively and still leaves a lot desired to compete every shift, but he still has all the tools to be a star offensive player. Buch reminds me a bit how Kreider looked at 19 years old when it comes to compete level and defense. Buch though is more offensive skilled than Kreider at 19.
haveandare
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From what little I've seen of them, I think Buch will be more of a guy who plays well with the puck on his stick while Duke is more of a disappear until it's too late and he's already sniped one kind of player.
Personally, I didn't/don't see anything from either player to suggest that they're able to provide competent NHL defense right now, but that's fine at their age and with their skillsets.
It was an exggeration but I wouldn't be shocked to see Buchnevich walk into the Rangers in a couple seasons and do what Kucherov has done in Tampa.Twice the player? Man I hope so, but I'm not going that far myself. He is a prospect that is on the same level as Duclair, with the potential to fill the same role in the NHL as Duclair, and it's because of these things that including Duclair in the Yandle deal wasn't the disaster some Ranger haters want it to be.
I'm really excited for him to come over, even more so now that Duclair has been shipped out (and also because I am still not over the McIlrath pick!
I think Duclair's feet move to quick for his brain. He's not dumb by any means but his hockey sense is low. He is effective in a lesser role where he can use his speed and size to create space for his more skilled linemates (Domi/Reinhart). In contrast I think Buchnevich is much more capable of pushing the play and controlling it. If I were Arizona I would have insisted on Buch. I also disagree with Duclair being more complete. Duke's only true advantage is his speed and skating. Buch is a much smarter player and much more polished. Duclair is the definition of tools and no toolbox.
I think Duclair is a decent prospect and can be a faster Drew Stafford. I think Buchnevich can be a top line player and a very good one. Disappointed that Arizona didn't go for Buchnevich. At first I suspected it was more due to the "Russian factor" but they picked up Letunov so you can scrap that theory. Oh well.
Let Blaine Die
Holden out 4 a hero
Probably had to do with Duclair and Domi playing together on the same line at the World Juniors and how the Canadian media was praising their chemistry. Now Arizona can play them together in the NHL.
Otherwise, Buch is the superior prospect.
GordonGecko
First Ping Pong Ball
Can't believe Tarasenko was there for the taking in the draft. Buch could be a similar player
Picks never work out how the "experts" think. Duclair may do nothing, or he could be Gaborik - who knows. That's why not having 1st round picks isn't the end of the world, but you need to have some picks though or else you can't restock
Pavel Buchnevich
"Pavel Buchnevich The Fake"
He has the same quality of being able to make defenseman look foolish. I think he's has the same type of talent, but those two have already proven themselves in the NHL. Buchnevich has not done that yet.
He's already more offensively skilled than Kreider is now. There are other pieces of his game that need to come along, but from the little I've seen, he's got top 6 written all over him. He's creative with and without that puck and he seems to have that killer instinct.
I'm and American so this isn't the fondest memory, but in the 2014 world juniors, his passion after putting the US out of the tournament was a sight to behold. He was screaming into the US bench, directly at Brady Skjei, his Rangers teammate of the future.
Fantomas
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Hard to compare him to Kucherov, because Nikita was in the CHL as a teenager. Meanwhile Tarasenko and Buchnevich's birthdates do not quite line up.
This said, Buchnevich is having an extremely good year, though not as productive as Tarasenko's breakout PPG campaign in Novosibirsk.
I think Buchnevich lacks the game breaking, explosive offensive ability of the other two guys. He can be a bit low key sometimes, but has a great pair of hands.
Pavel Buchnevich
"Pavel Buchnevich The Fake"
And would have been shown the door.
I personally prefer Buch over Duke. The WJC has a way of making people overrate prospects based on a handful of high-profile games. Duke is a great spec to sport in a pool, but he lacks any real offensive IQ and is more of a north-south winger with blazing wheels and a rocket of a shot. Buch, IMO, has a higher ceiling and is progressing towards it just as well as Duke.
Last night, Quebec v. Blainville, Duclair was very underwhelming (-2).
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I think you're right. The NHL scouts are providing their own rankings here, which means they will downgrade certain players in order to get a contractual advantage on them.
I hate the Future Watch lists. They're misleading.
FLYLine27*
BUCH
A little sad cause I wanted him in NA this year but the kid said all the right things in the interview, his dream is still to make the NHL and he felt the Ranger team is too strong and he wouldn't have made it next season. Thankfully its just a 1 year deal, kid will be 20 years old and hopefully will continue to get stronger and play better in the KHL. Im sure he will be in NA again in the offseason like he was last season.
Yeah, he needs this year. He isn't ready to become a top-sixer on Rangers so far, and he isn't suitable for down6 role. I think the next season he'll be ok.
UsernameWasTaken
Let's Go Hawks!
Did NYR want to sign him and he decided to stay another year in Russia - or weren't they ready for him to come over yet?
I've only seen him in his int'l play - but have been impressed. He has the potential to be a ready good steal for a 3rd round pick.
I've only seen him in his int'l play - but have been impressed. He has the potential to be a ready good steal for a 3rd round pick.
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