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RW Matvei Michkov (2023, 7th, PHI) Part 5

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IronMarshal said:
The Flyers don't regret taking York over Caulfield. The trade back and taking York also netted them Bobby Brink who may amount to nothing but is still a promising young player. That trade did cost them Boldy though. I would have taken Boldy, but it would leave a massive hole in the defense. York is a very good second pair defenseman on a good team, he is a first pair guy on the Flyers.

Some Flyers fans do prefer Caulfield over York (not me, and I love Caulfield as a player), but I doubt anyone in management does. Good defensemen are hard to find.

York and Michkov are definitely better than Caufield and Reinbacher now though. We'll see in the future as they all develop if that changes.
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I wanted Boldy for the Flyers at the draft badly.... that's the one that hurts.

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Kucherov broke Larkin's speed record at the all star game. Yes his bread and butter is his IQ, but he has the burst to use when needed to exploit his iq. This is what is still missing from Michkov. Michkov doesn't need to be a great skater in terms of speed. Just be slightly above average would be enough. Right now his max speed is just average.

Crosby is strong skater and definitely had burst, again used his grit and IQ to be the best, but had the speed to use when needed.

Draisatl yes I agree, but he is a big player, so not as needed.
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I certainly agree with you that Crosby and Kucherov are better/faster skaters than Michkov and have more explosion in their game. I'm just pointed out that those guys are scoring over 100 points because of their IQ and cerebral play. Michkov is a winger version of Crosby playstyle imo, it's the closest comp i can think of and it sounds weird.

To be clear, i'm not saying he's as good as Sid, he's not. i'm talking play style.
 
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Sasso09 said:
I wanted Boldy for the Flyers at the draft badly.... that's the one that hurts.


I certainly agree with you that Crosby and Kucherov are better/faster skaters than Michkov and have more explosion in their game. I'm just pointed out that those guys are scoring over 100 points because of their IQ and cerebral play. Michkov is a winger version of Crosby playstyle imo, it's the closest comp i can think of and it sounds weird.

To be clear, i'm not saying he's as good as Sid, he's not. i'm talking play style.
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And my point is for Michkov to reach the 100 plus point mark consistently, the ONLY thing he needs from a physical standpoint is just added speed. The stickhandling, shooting technique, passing, vision, edgework, strength on puck, angle creation he has in spades.

But Without any speed added, in my view, he will only be all star level quality, ppg player. With a slight boost in explosiveness, he can win MVP trophies because his skill level, even today, you can see is super elite.

With the added speed, it will enable him to use his great IQ more as he gains more space. Go from 5/10 to level 6/10 speed is all he needs, imo.

Pavel bure used speed to score throughout his career, Michkov will use IQ akin to kucherov like you mentioned, but as it stands now, he's not able to use his whole IQ arsenal because of the avg speed, unlike Kucherov.

But maybe I am wrong, maybe michkov's IQ is THAT good that he could develop into a top 5 player with average speed. We shall see....
 
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SaSaShi said:
Kucherov broke Larkin's speed record at the all star game. Yes his bread and butter is his IQ, but he has the burst to use when needed to exploit his iq. This is what is still missing from Michkov. Michkov doesn't need to be a great skater in terms of speed. Just be slightly above average would be enough. Right now his max speed is just average.

Crosby is strong skater and definitely had burst, again used his grit and IQ to be the best, but had the speed to use when needed.

Draisatl yes I agree, but he is a big player, so not as needed.
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Did he really ? I’ve always thought of him as a sneaky good skater but this surprised me ( Kuch )
 

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That was without a doubt imo Michkovs weakest game so far in the NHL. Looked lost out there with almost every second pass a giveaway. Had nevertheless a big chance with 6 minutes left in the 3rd to close the game but didn't manage to get a shot on goal. Besides improving his skating he should really work on or try to play more simple… especially while defending in his own zone.

Hope he still wins rookie of the month.
 
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That was without a doubt imo Michkovs weakest game so far in the NHL. Looked lost out there with almost every second pass a giveaway. Had nevertheless a big chance with 6 minutes left in the 3rd to close the game but didn't manage to get a shot on goal. Besides improving his skating he should really work on or try to play more simple… especially while defending in his own zone.

Hope he still wins rookie of the month.
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He's definitely looked a bit fatigued the last few games, but that's not surprising. He's not used to playing this much hockey, and he plays the game hard and heavy. His style involves lots of stops and starts and puck battles down low.

Last night's game was a weird one though, a very conservative, clogged up game. Neither team was giving up a lot in terms of passing lanes. The skilled guys on both teams struggled.
 
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Kshahdoo said:
No points in the last two games, and he still hasn't scored a single Michigan, he's a bust.
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Jokes aside, he was pretty bad in his last game, making terrible passes resulting in turnovers which is not like him

I even noticed Torts did not let him out for the last 3 minutes so Couturier, Konecny were out with Farabee
 
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Sasso09 said:
On what planet?

Michkov carried a horrible team with no help and zero NHL drafted talent and outscored Demidov who is playing with 7 former first round NHL players and is being carried by a team with 7 players with higher PPG than him..

Michkov 0.87 PPG, second highest on SOCHI was 0.71 PPG
Demidov 0.81 PPG, Teammates with 1.46PPG, 1.08PPG, 1.05PPG, Demidov 7th

Michkov was responsible for 41% of his teams offense (41 points of 100 goals)
Demidov was responsible for 19% of his teams offense (17 points of 90 goals)

Demidov D+1 is not even close to Michkov D+1

SKA scored 90 goals in just 21 games
Sochi scored 100 goals in the 47 games Michkov played, with zero help.

41% to 19%

Leading team with 0.87PPG
7th on team with 0.81PPG

What mental gymnastics are you playing to suggest Demidov has been better in D+1? the only reason he's even playing for SKA is because he can't be loaned and they're only loading up his minutes vs the bottom feeder teams.


So you counter by showing a video of Crosby not being explosive?

Crosby is not and was never considered an explosive player. He's all IQ and grit.
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I’m sure your non-biased self factored that Michkov averaged over 6 minutes more ice time per game than Demidov is currently getting. Good to see you active on these boards again!
 
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Looks like Michkov is no longer on the first line

And he’s benched 5v5. It only took 10 games for Torts to snap
 
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Looks like Michkov is no longer on the first line

And he’s benched 5v5. It only took 10 games for Torts to snap
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He has been crap the last 2-3 games. Maybe fatigue, maybe a slump, but michkov has not been good the past 2 games.

A healthy scratch could be in play next game.
 
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