RW Matvei Michkov (2023, 7th, PHI) Part 4

[joestevens29]

Kaprizov/Panarin/Kuzmenko... all of these names and more should have put to bed the idea of passing on high-end Russian talent

Nowadays it seems when they show up they start right up

Those guys really aren't the same situation though. 2 of them weren't even drafted and the other was a 5th rounder, not because they were Russian but because they weren't good enough. Not like there wasn't other Russians drafted the years they would've gone.

Better comparison is a guy like Kuznetsov who slipped in rankings due to being a Russian.

 

[NHL Fanatik]

Those guys really aren't the same situation though. 2 of them weren't even drafted and the other was a 5th rounder, not because they were Russian but because they weren't good enough. Not like there wasn't other Russians drafted the years they would've gone.

Better comparison is a guy like Kuznetsov who slipped in rankings due to being a Russian.

I mainly was speaking to the time it takes for them to come and if that would negatively affect their arrival; as in idt Russians staying over for 5-6 years is all that big a deal anymore.

Youre getting a stud at age 23 if they stay home for five years, beats most draft picks

 

[Edenjung]

Damn.
I wish him the best.

 

[LePerilsofPerreault]

I hope he is okay, that’s gut wrenching. Dad will continue to be proud of him.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Sam thing with Malkin or Andrew Ladd.

Imagine the Penguins went with Ladd instead because they didn’t wanna wait two years.

Irrelevant. There was no war then. Waiting 3 years is not what would drop him in the draft. It's the uncertainty of him leaving Russia at all.

 

[Not The One]

This is incredibly sad. Devastating loss for him and his family.

He was already an incredible talent with lots of question marks, I can't imagine what losing you dad in that way could affect him in the medium/long term. Major headache for teams who will be drafting 3-6 (like my Habs).

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

just found out how close he was to hes dad,imagine the dad training and coaching hes kid hes whole life just to die a few months before watching him get drafted by an NHL team

I currently have a kid playing hockey and watching him getting drafted would mean the world to me im sure Matvei's dad felt the same RIP

i dont wanna speculate but this is not a suicide

 

[Garl]

RIP, hope Matvey will get support that is needed. His father will always be with him

 

[Faceboner]

just found out how close he was to hes dad,imagine the dad training and coaching hes kid hes whole life just to die a few months before watching him get drafted by an NHL team

I currently have a kid playing hockey and watching him getting drafted would mean the world to me im sure Matvei's dad felt the same RIP

i dont wanna speculate but this is not a suicide

It really is a horrible devastating tragedy I just hope he is given time and respect to get his grievances out and is able to properly mentally and emotionally heal. As an aside it does remind me of ovi and his brother which is another tragic tale.

 

[Caser]

just found out how close he was to hes dad,imagine the dad training and coaching hes kid hes whole life just to die a few months before watching him get drafted by an NHL team

I currently have a kid playing hockey and watching him getting drafted would mean the world to me im sure Matvei's dad felt the same RIP

i dont wanna speculate but this is not a suicide

Because these Russian people can't possibly have any mental issues, right, they're Russians after all.

 

[BB88]

Could we please give Michkovs family the respect to not try to speculate on our own what happened?

Something absolute terrible just happened and I wish them all the best and strenght to get through this

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Because these Russian people can't possibly have any mental issues, right, they're Russians after all.

Sure

 

[Siludin]

Because these Russian people can't possibly have any mental issues, right, they're Russians after all.

It doesn't have to be some conspiracy to keep Michkov in town, but it could still be a murder.

Michael Jordan's father was murdered, and a lot of people thought it was due to Jordan's gambling debts, but it was just a crime of opportunity/armed robbery gone awry cause they saw a luxury car pulled over on the road.

 

[Caser]

It doesn't have to be some conspiracy to keep Michkov in town, but it could still be a murder.

Michael Jordan's father was murdered, and a lot of people thought it was due to Jordan's gambling debts, but it was just a crime of opportunity/armed robbery gone awry cause they saw a luxury car pulled over on the road.

It could really be anything, so when someone is writing something like "yeah, suicide, sure" or something like that is either hinting he has some inside sources or telling that Russians don't suffer from mental health issues or just likes conspiracy theories so much that even such a tragedy can't stop him.

 

[Albatros]

A slightly secluded muddy pond between residential buildings sounds like an underwhelming place to do a suicide by drowning when you have the Black Sea just across the block.

 

[Caser]

A slightly secluded muddy pond between residential buildings sounds like an underwhelming place to do a suicide by drowning when you have the Black Sea just across the block.

In general drowning in the see from the shore isn't that easy since the depth there rises gradually (not to mention there likely are patrols too, it is almost the border there). In ponds like that the depth can be more sudden especially if the pond is artificial.

 

[Albatros]

In general drowning in the see from the shore isn't that easy since the depth there rises gradually (not to mention there likely are patrols too, it is almost the border there). In ponds like that the depth can be more sudden especially if the pond is artificial.

True, but also a logical place to quickly dump a body after a robbery gone wrong if there was anything nefarious.

 

[Caser]

True, but also a logical place to quickly dump a body after a robbery gone wrong if there was anything nefarious.

That's why I'm saying that anything is possible especially considering the current level of info that we have (none or almost none).

 

[centipede2233]

This is incredibly sad. Devastating loss for him and his family.

He was already an incredible talent with lots of question marks, I can't imagine what losing you dad in that way could affect him in the medium/long term. Major headache for teams who will be drafting 3-6 (like my Habs).

Yeah, obviously best to his family and devastating news. From a hockey perspective as this is a hockey forum, I wonder how this effects his draft position, this will be interesting to watch on draft day

 

[BB88]

Yeah, obviously best to his family and devastating news. From a hockey perspective as this is a hockey forum, I wonder how this effects his draft position, this will be interesting to watch on draft day

It should have zero affect, although I doubt Michkov cares about that right now

 

[Kshahdoo]

True, but also a logical place to quickly dump a body after a robbery gone wrong if there was anything nefarious.

It's hardly a robbery. The place they live in is pretty special. I'm sure it's patroled heavily, you won't find a lot of robbers in places like this.

 

[kp61c]

A slightly secluded muddy pond between residential buildings sounds like an underwhelming place to do a suicide by drowning when you have the Black Sea just across the block.

Suicide version sounds moronic to me. I wouldn't give it much weight.

 

[Hanji]

If the reports of security cameras catching him stumbling around are true, a heart attack or aneurysm sounds very probable.
Perhaps feeling ill he went out for some fresh air and never returned.

 

[Hanji]

True, but also a logical place to quickly dump a body after a robbery gone wrong if there was anything nefarious.

A slightly secluded muddy pond between residential buildings sounds like an underwhelming place to do a suicide by drowning when you have the Black Sea just across the block.

Slightly secluded muddy pond?
An entire row of apartment buildings are within view (see link/video below).

If it was anything nefarious would it not make more sense to dump the body in the nearby ocean? At least there's a chance it would never be recovered.

РЕН ТВ опубликовал кадры с места обнаружения тела отца хоккеиста Мичкова

 

[Albatros]

Slightly secluded muddy pond?
An entire row of apartment buildings are within view (see link/video below).

If it was anything nefarious would it not make more sense to dump the body in the nearby ocean? At least there's a chance it would never be recovered.

РЕН ТВ опубликовал кадры с места обнаружения тела отца хоккеиста Мичкова

You can check the place with Google Street View or something and you'll get the idea, it's basically a large poorly illuminated empty lot between built up ones. The ponds are in many places surrounded by thick bushes so especially after nightfall it would be a location where eye witnesses won't be numerous.