RW Jordan Dumais - Halifax Mooseheads, QMJHL (2022, 96th, CBJ)

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If anything it’s good that he’s getting a wake up call. He may be “too good” points wise for the QMJHL, but if he gets roughed up a bit and shut down, maybe it’ll give him reason to work harder this offseason to get bigger and stronger when he returns there next year. Maybe he won’t have as many points but he’ll play the game the “right way”.

I also think it’s hilarious that a good portion of fans hyping him up in here are not even CBJ fans and most fans defending him against his critics are also not CBJ fans. Don’t see that too often in prospects threads.
 
He may be “too good” points wise for the QMJHL, but if he gets roughed up a bit and shut down, maybe it’ll give him reason to work harder this offseason to get bigger and stronger when he returns there next year. Maybe he won’t have as many points but he’ll play the game the “right way”

I live in Halifax and watch Dumais on a weekly basis during the hockey season. I also watch a significant amount of CHL more broadly, and I can say the Maritime Division of the QMJHL was absolutely dreadful defensively this year. Dumais played 44 of his 64 (nearly 70%) of his games against Cape Breton, Moncton, Saint John, Charlottetown and Bathurst (i.e. 5 of the 9 worst teams in the league in goals against who are all in rebuild mode). These games accounted for 115 of his points.

Dumais is far outperforming his draft position, and he has some very good qualities in his game, but there are also very real concerns as to whether he will translate to the pro game. There is a reason why you need to look beyond stats and/or place them in proper context, and many fail to do so on these boards (not accusing you of this).
 
I live in Halifax and watch Dumais on a weekly basis during the hockey season. I also watch a significant amount of CHL more broadly, and I can say the Maritime Division of the QMJHL was absolutely dreadful defensively this year. Dumais played 44 of his 64 (nearly 70%) of his games against Cape Breton, Moncton, Saint John, Charlottetown and Bathurst (i.e. 5 of the 9 worst teams in the league in goals against who are all in rebuild mode). These games accounted for 115 of his points.

Dumais is far outperforming his draft position, and he has some very good qualities in his game, but there are also very real concerns as to whether he will translate to the pro game. There is a reason why you need to look beyond stats and/or place them in proper context, and many fail to do so on these boards (not accusing you of this).
Sure, I’ll be the first to admit I haven’t watched one minute of Dumais this year.

All I know is that he’ll be back in the Q next year. Hopefully with a bigger body and ready to dominate again. If he’s got kinks to work out in his game, then great, he’ll be afforded every opportunity to work them out next year in the Q and maybe another year in the AHL. We’ll see.
 
You unbelievers will be in shock then i guess, when Dumais is rocking it with Blue Jackets next season.

I remember the same shit was said about Brinksy, ive seen this many games and he lacks this and that...

I respect your opinion, your view of him and your view of the Q and the division he played.

For me, its obvious that he is good enough to the NHL. - how he plays, what he does, his effort.

Yes, my view is his game highlights and clips made by other people, but... the same was with Alex DeBrincat.

He has worked on his game, a lot since his rookie season BTW, gotten more muscle, grown taller, has a two way game, his skating issues have been extremely over blown, abdolutely nothing wrong with his skating.

Does he still need hard work and improve his game? absolutely, he has done so each summer and will do that again.
 
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Update : He'll miss the remainder of the semi-final.


I figured he’d be out a while watching him wince leaving the ice on what seemed like a nothing play, probably aggregated something. He was getting manhandled all game long.

Hopefully nothing to serious, he has to put in some major work this off-season.

Talent is undeniable, probably a top 5 skilled player in the CHL, but has some very serious flaws to a pro game
 
Dumais season ends, Quebec wins 4-2 the Q and goes to the Mem Cup.
- scored his 21 play-offs points in 8 games, went 7 games with 0+0 stats

Dumais finishes the season with 59 goals, 102 assists, 161 points, 2.05 ppg, with +56 marker

Had a very consistent regular season, but not so much in the play-offs
games : play-offs : 8/15 points (.533) vs regular season : 45/54 points (.833)

He proved this season that he wasn't just a point producing winger, nor just a playmaker.
He scored 59 goals, his two way game impressed many, also improved his skating,
though.. it never was an issue for the first place.

All in all, he was by far the best player this season in the QMJHL and the 2nd best player in the CHL.

I know.. not many think that he'll get an NHL spot from Blue Jackets line up next season but
for me its pretty obvious; he was already so good last season in the camps, camps best player.
Has improved his game a lot in a year, will work on his game the summer, also will be hitting the gym too.
 
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Pretty high praise from Fantilli after the Traverse City tournament (per Rotowire):

Dumais' 5-foot-8 frame is a concern when it comes to his offensive skills translating to the NHL, but his skating has improved significantly since he was drafted and his vision and hockey IQ are elite. "Off the chart IQ," Traverse City teammate Adam Fantilli, the third overall pick in the 2023 draft, said after the tournament. "If I can't even see him, I'm still ready for a pass. He sees a lot of things I don't, and I just have to be ready for a pass. He's a really strong kid. He plays like he's a lot bigger than he is. He's got one of the best hockey brains I've ever played with, so being out there with him has been really special."
 
It’s true. I’ve seen him do things that make you giggle. IQ is definitely not his issue. Fighting through physical play is and his skating doesn’t appear to be able to carry him through that. Grain of salt - I said the same about Johnny Gaudreau…
 
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You unbelievers will be in shock then i guess, when Dumais is rocking it with Blue Jackets next season.

I remember the same shit was said about Brinksy, ive seen this many games and he lacks this and that...

I respect your opinion, your view of him and your view of the Q and the division he played.

For me, its obvious that he is good enough to the NHL. - how he plays, what he does, his effort.

Yes, my view is his game highlights and clips made by other people, but... the same was with Alex DeBrincat.

He has worked on his game, a lot since his rookie season BTW, gotten more muscle, grown taller, has a two way game, his skating issues have been extremely over blown, abdolutely nothing wrong with his skating.

Does he still need hard work and improve his game? absolutely, he has done so each summer and will do that again.
There is almost zero chance that he plays more than a handful of games for Columbus this year and even if he does he won't be rocking it.
 
Pretty high praise from Fantilli after the Traverse City tournament (per Rotowire):

Dumais' 5-foot-8 frame is a concern when it comes to his offensive skills translating to the NHL, but his skating has improved significantly since he was drafted and his vision and hockey IQ are elite. "Off the chart IQ," Traverse City teammate Adam Fantilli, the third overall pick in the 2023 draft, said after the tournament. "If I can't even see him, I'm still ready for a pass. He sees a lot of things I don't, and I just have to be ready for a pass. He's a really strong kid. He plays like he's a lot bigger than he is. He's got one of the best hockey brains I've ever played with, so being out there with him has been really special."
Why do people think he is 5 foot 8? :huh:his actual height is just above 5 foot 9
he has grown since he was 15/16 you know..

Why don't these reporters do some research..
He is pretty much the same height what Bedard, just saying..

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I have bigger version Alex DeBrincat vibes about him, ive had for a while,
More and more he has developed, more and more he has started to look like Brinksy.
 
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Why do people think he is 5 foot 8? :huh:his actual height is just above 5 foot 9
he has grown since he was 15/16 you know..

Why don't these reporters do some research..
He is pretty much the same height what Bedard, just saying..

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I have bigger version Alex DeBrincat vibes about him, ive had for a while,
More and more he has developed, more and more he has started to look like Brinksy.
Outside of height I don't think that is much of a comparable in how Dumais actually plays on the ice.
 
Only an complete idiot, fool, would send him back to juniors.
No room/role? make the room!.

If Blue Jackets want to win, make it to the players; they need this guy.
The Jackets are expected to petition the league so he can play in the AHL. I doubt it works, but they're going to try.

Item No. 2: Waiver request?

For now, Blue Jackets forward Jordan Dumais and defenseman Denton Mateychuk are in training camp to make the NHL roster. But if they don’t make the cut — and let’s be honest, the odds are stacked against them — the only option is to return them to their junior clubs.

Dumais and Mateychuk are both 19 years old, too young to play in the American Hockey League, at least according to the NHL’s agreement with the Canadian Hockey League, which oversees major junior hockey in Canada.

If the Jackets don’t keep them in Columbus, Dumais would go back to Halifax of the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League, for whom he had 54-86-140 in 64 games last season. Only Connor Bedard had more points (143) in the three CHL leagues.

Mateychuk, meanwhile, would go back to Moose Jaw of the Western Hockey League, where he has averaged a point a game over the last two seasons.

The Blue Jackets may have been resigned to this before it was learned that Seattle has gained an exemption to send forward Shane Wright to its AHL affiliate if he doesn’t make the Kraken, according to the Seattle Times.

Pressed on the issue following the NHL prospects tournament in Traverse City, Blue Jackets GM Jarmo Kekalainen said he would consider asking for a waiver for either or both of Dumais and Mateychuk depending on how they play in camp. The Blue Jackets might want the option of sending them to AHL Cleveland to play this season.

“We respect the contract in place between the NHL and the CHL, but we’re going to have some talks and see what may be the best course of action for us in those cases,” Kekalainen said. “Both of them have proven that they’ve accomplished everything you can accomplish at the junior level.

“Dumais has actually played more games (172) in junior than Shane Wright (141), so … it’s an interesting case.”

This rule only affects elite players, but it has started to steer more and more top players toward U.S. colleges and away from major junior. Case in point, Blue Jackets rookie Adam Fantilli.

Fantilli’s rights were held by OHL Saginaw. But a big part of his decision to go to the University of Michigan was the freedom granted to players coming out of the NCAA. Fantilli will almost certainly make the Blue Jackets’ roster out of camp, but he is eligible to play in the AHL. The Blue Jackets were able to send Cole Sillinger to Cleveland late last season because he was technically drafted out of the USHL, not CHL.

To be sure, Dumais and Mateychuk can still sharpen their games if they return to junior. Dumais took major steps this summer with his quickness, Kekalainen said. And Dumais and Mateychuk would seem likely to land a spot on Canada’s world junior team after getting cut late in the process last winter.

But for now, the focus is on training camp and the preseason. Dumais and Mateychuk are both in the lineup for tonight’s 7 p.m. game in Nationwide vs. Pittsburgh. Depending on how the next 2 1/2 weeks go, the Blue Jackets could make a plea to send them to Cleveland instead of back to Canada.

“We’ll respect whatever the NHL gives us for direction,” Kekalainen said. “Hey, if they make our team we don’t have to deal with it. But there’s a long way to go from here.”
 
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