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Interesting. GMs should take from this situation it is important to have native Finns, Russians, etc on staff to prevent this from happening.
RW Jesse Puljujarvi - Bakersfield Condors, AHL (2016, 4th, EDM)
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I don't know about that. The whole subject dumbness is so complex because there are so many areas and levels where you can excel or be stupid in. Can't just draw huge conclusions about someone because he appears stupid in person
This was sooo easy to predict that this prospect waa gonna bust. There were so many red flags. Non so bigger than finish Guru Jarmo passing up on JP !
Can you imagine if the Oilers had drafted Tkachuk Keller Sergachev or Mcavoy instead ??
That would have been a dynaty !
Thank you Chiarelli for being Chiarelli.
Can you imagine if the Oilers had drafted Tkachuk Keller Sergachev or Mcavoy instead ??
That would have been a dynaty !
Thank you Chiarelli for being Chiarelli.
Hmm, of course you need to know the person a bit better and it's only hearsay. But he's never really done anything to make me doubt what I've heard either - Quite the opposite, in fact. Take that pizza episode for instance - It would make me immediately think "Wow, that guy looks like a total idiot" if I saw him for the first time.
And being stupid as a whole is quite different from being good or bad at specific things. It's pretty easy to get a general idea during a conversation apart from the specific case of them being smart enough to give false flags which is genious-tier.
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Trust me, stupid people can be great athletes. There are a bunch of them
Question is does he have hockey sense?
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I haven't seen much of JP this season in the AHL but those that have say he's playing well despite not putting up points. The Oilers need a RWer for next game because Caggiula and Slepyshev are both injured. I don't think a few games will hurt him.
As long as he plays decent minutes. If it's a repeat of last season when he was in the pressbox or played under 10 minutes, I can't imagine it being helpful at all
I haven't seen him at all this year, but if he is playing well then I am glad he got the call up and am excited to watch him. I was worried that if he wasn't playing well then it might be daunting for Edmonton to be like "we know you haven't been great going against AHLers, so now we're going to have you go against much bigger, faster, more talented versions of AHLers!"
That is a good point. It is more about how they handle the call up than the actual call up itself.
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Yeah. Not official yet but if Bob Stauffer is hinting at it then it's probably going to happen.
I hope he gets some decent ice time, including on the power play, if he's recalled.
The Oilers are also not making him available for Team Finland at the WJC. Easy to forget how young Jesse is that he's still eligible.
I was pretty disappointed they already shut down my hopes of him playing in WJC, but it could definitely be considered a good thing since it suggests Oilers think he'll be needed
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You can't really make an assessment based on that though. I agree he's not playing intelligently on ice; but you absolutely can't see how intelligent someone is based on conversation or eating pizza.
For example I've been multilingual since I was a kid and was always fascinated by language and the use of it so I'm prone to coming off more intelligent in conversation than someone who just might not be as expressive by nature and isn't as experienced in articulating their thoughts, even if the other person might be way ahead of me in other fields.
Based on the way he plays on ice I agree with you, but off-ice you can't judge intelligence just like that.
Also I've seen UFC light heavyweight champion Daniel Cormier eat cupcakes and fried chicken; doesn't stop him from being a really intelligent wrestler.
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That's ridiculous.
Just look at a guy like Ryan Smyth. He had great hockey IQ. Not a lot of any other kind of smarts and he would be the first to admit it.
I don't know if it relates to Puljarvi here but adding to your point there was also that players tribune Brent Sopel article talking about him growing up with undiagnosed dyslexia.
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I'd give it a shot, I think those two guys would compliment each other's game well.
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The Kid is 19 years old... what is going on in HFboards... my god people already calling him a bust.
I have couple friends who know him and I hung out with him last spring after world´s. He isn´t idiot as you picture him to be. To me, he seemed a rather typical young adult. At least then, he was friendly towards everyone and had a good sense of humour.
I don’t believe that Jesse is really dumb. I have heard him in several Finnish interviews and he really didn’t sound like a stupid person. But I have noticed two things about him: First of all, he doesn’t seem like a very good learner. At least he doesn’t seem to learn things too quickly. Ok, some people might want to call that already being stupid. But that is not really how you define if a person is stupid. It is more how you use knowledge that you already have gained and how well you can use your logic to do good choices in general. Of course it might even be that Jesse had problems with this too, but I’m at least tending to believe that he might have somekind of a learning problem.
Secondly I have to say that Jesse seems still pretty immature and probably because of that he is not very good at keeping a good confidence in some difficult situations. But anyway, I would say that this is quite common with kids of his age, especially if they got used to some other people taking care of the most difficulties that they had to confront in life. This had definitely happened with Jesse in Kärpät.
Otherwise Kärpät are a really great organization for developing top notch talents, but I think that with Jesse’s type of personality Kärpät is not an organization that could make him quickly NHL ready. They would definitely make him NHL ready in a couple of seasons, when his maturing would have gone through it’s normal course, but I don’t think they could have helped him mature very quickly. But at least they could have helped him with his confidence and still much needed skill development. These are the reasons why I thought, and I still think that it would be best for him to play still a couple of seasons in FEL.
He would still have time to learn the North American game, especially now that he has got a taste of what it is like. But right now he needs to mature without losing his self confidence too much and develop his skills still a lot. Of course he should develop also his English skills, but with the right kind of tutoring and attitude he should be able to do that even if he played still a couple of seasons in FEL.
Secondly I have to say that Jesse seems still pretty immature and probably because of that he is not very good at keeping a good confidence in some difficult situations. But anyway, I would say that this is quite common with kids of his age, especially if they got used to some other people taking care of the most difficulties that they had to confront in life. This had definitely happened with Jesse in Kärpät.
Otherwise Kärpät are a really great organization for developing top notch talents, but I think that with Jesse’s type of personality Kärpät is not an organization that could make him quickly NHL ready. They would definitely make him NHL ready in a couple of seasons, when his maturing would have gone through it’s normal course, but I don’t think they could have helped him mature very quickly. But at least they could have helped him with his confidence and still much needed skill development. These are the reasons why I thought, and I still think that it would be best for him to play still a couple of seasons in FEL.
He would still have time to learn the North American game, especially now that he has got a taste of what it is like. But right now he needs to mature without losing his self confidence too much and develop his skills still a lot. Of course he should develop also his English skills, but with the right kind of tutoring and attitude he should be able to do that even if he played still a couple of seasons in FEL.
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