Loffer
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RW Jesse Puljujärvi - Karpat, FEL (2016 Draft)
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Did you even watch the last two games? He was a lot better in those than he was earlier. His defensive game has seriously improved compared to last year, still zero goals scored vs Puljujärvi this season in Liiga/CHL.
His defensive game has seriously improved compared to last year, still zero goals scored vs Puljujärvi this season in Liiga/CHL.
While he has some responsibilities for his team, his defensive game means very little for his draft and career. We finns could make handful of teams with defensively responsible forwards, we have lot of those. He should be scoring and making plays, you don't draft top 3(forward) for his defensive skills.
I haven't seen him play this year so i won't comment on that but i hope he's trying to score and not be too much of a team player and steer his career to wrong direction(mediocre team player).
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Haven't watched him in any games this year but by the nature of his game and his position I feel he is the most likely to drop on draft day compared to the other guys around his position in the draftrankings. I don't think he is going to fall out of the top10 but I can see him getting drafted somewhere between 5-9. We'll see though, the season is young and much can happen.
You mean you are watching just the stats and thats all that matters to you. You know, they cant give him that big role in Kärpät, if his all around game is not good enough and surely they would like to have an all around excelent scoring forward in NHL and in the NT aswell.
Jesse is in transition to pro game and in this phase he needs play more of a winning hockey than in juniors.
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Also defensive awareness mean a big benefit for his future. NHL teams respect team-players and those who have versatile qualities. For example Barkov is amazing both ways. Pulkkinen is or at least was very one-dimensional which meant he could benefit the team only by doing points. If Pulkkinen were a great skater and all-around player he would already be in NHL.
I think this is unrealistic. There isn't enough elite talent in this draft to drop a player with Puljujärvi's toolset out of the top 4. People are just overreacting to a handful of apparently subpar games.
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I'd strongly disagree. There's tons of guys who are very intruiging and can rise big time with a strong year. Laine, Tkachuk, Jones, Sokolov, Juolevi, Brown, Benson, Steel, Nylander, Bellows, Gauthier, Dubois, Grundström. I can see all of those guys challenging for a spot within the top10 and the first 6 guys I mentioned I can all see having a legit shot at going top5. Puljujärvi being top4 is far from a given. Obviously, as of right now he's a top4 pick but a lot can change between now and then. We see guys who are ranked highly the year before drop dramatically when the draft rolls around. Kylington was a consensus top10 pick going to last year and at times he seemed almost to be a given as a top5 pick, then he fell all the way to #60. I don't see Puljujärvi falling that far at all but he can easily drop a few spots if he doesn't have a strong year.
I think it is very unlikely that any team sitting at #4 or maybe #5 pick would pass on Puljujärvi type prospect. He's big, fast, slick puck handler, excellent shot, good play without the puck, backchecks hard. There's no real holes in his game, and he has an elite toolset. Those type of players get picked early even if they put up a unspectacular season.
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Zaddy
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The thing is, most of those guys I mentioned have similar skillsets. Tkachuk, Jones, Brown, Bellows, Dubois, Gauthier are all big guys who are good skaters and can put up a lot of points. You can add in Laine and Sokolov there too as big guys with decent enough skating. Then you have Juolevi who, in my mind, would be a great consolation prize for teams looking for a franchise-type d-man but aren't drafting high enough to get Chychrun. I think Puljujärvi can't really afford a "meh" season with this kind of competition. He needs to keep proving (and improving) himself as the season goes on if he wants to maintain his advantage over the other guys.
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Yeah. Puljujärvi has a package that defines elite upside. 30g potential probably isn't going top make it out of the top 5, 6'4 30g potential definitely won't.
How was he otherwise? He looked pretty good in the highlights of that game. He had a breakaway, his forechecking led directly to a goal, and he seemed to be in the right place a lot even when the bounces didn't go his way. Of course, those are only the highlights.
Yeah he has started playing better. Is at the right place at the right time, gives good passes, gets shots on goal etc. His puck handling still looks a bit off, hopefully that will improve.
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I guess he has always (successfully) relied on his speed to get past by defenders and has not had to rely on his stickhandling as much as a slower guy like Laine. Like you said, hopefully he improves it.
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Kärpät just has zero offensive system now, defenseman dump the puck in after the red line. Puljujärvi has been active on the center ice and open for passes yet nobody has ever passed the puck to him. Well once yesterday and he got a breakaway from that.
