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RW Brock Boeser - North Dakota, NCAA (2015, 23rd, VAN)

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Pavel Buchnevich said:
I don't know, I personally don't think he'd go that much higher in a re-draft. I think he's one of those picks that most people didn't know about, and the fact that he's a first round talent has been validated. A few draft experts had him pretty high prior to the month leading up to the draft, but if you look at his thread prior to June, there are very few posts about him. He also didn't even make the USA WJC-18 team.

I'd take McDavid, Eichel, Strome, Marner, Hanifin, Provorov, Werenski, Rantanen, Barzal, Connor, Chabot, White, Samsonov, Konecny, Juulsen, Larsson, Beauvillier, Aho, Carlo, Sprong, Saarela, Kaprizov before Boeser.

Thats exactly 22 players, and as weird of a coincidence as that seems that its exactly 22, I just went through the 2015 draft on wikipedia quickly, picked players I'd rather have over Boeser, and it added up to 22, so I think Boeser was picked exactly where he should've, although he definitely wasn't a high profile pick, so the Canucks deserve credit for picking a player who wasn't talked about as much leading up to the draft as a lot of first rounders.
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And where are you from young man ? It seems like you've never seen him play ...like at all
 
Rey said:
Who cares about who he'd take over who. It's not like it's set and stone. Many of them haven't done anything in the NHL.

If you are a canucks fan, you should be ashamed of yourself. With the number of guys that were supposed to be good that busted. The last thing you'd want to do is make quick judgement.
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Oh come on. We finally have a prospect that is putting up incredible numbers and exceeding expectations, and has a play style that looks like it will translate incredibly into the NHL... You must be fun at parties...
 
Rey said:
Who cares about who he'd take over who. It's not like it's set and stone. Many of them haven't done anything in the NHL.

If you are a canucks fan, you should be ashamed of yourself. With the number of guys that were supposed to be good that busted. The last thing you'd want to do is make quick judgement.
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What do you mean who cares who he'd take over who. Am i not allowed to question his post? Whats the point of hf boards. It doesnt matter what kind of beliefs you have dont force it onto others. Its about a redraft right now. The future is unknown yes, but we will have other threads when we get there. We live in the present, and he made a post that has to do with everything that has happened up until NOW. And on the basis of that i am allowed to make a post questioning his post. Dont give me that **** about you should be ashamed of yourself. What are you a social justice warrior?
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
I don't know, I personally don't think he'd go that much higher in a re-draft. I think he's one of those picks that most people didn't know about, and the fact that he's a first round talent has been validated. A few draft experts had him pretty high prior to the month leading up to the draft, but if you look at his thread prior to June, there are very few posts about him. He also didn't even make the USA WJC-18 team.

I'd take McDavid, Eichel, Strome, Marner, Hanifin, Provorov, Werenski, Rantanen, Barzal, Connor, Chabot, White, Samsonov, Konecny, Juulsen, Larsson, Beauvillier, Aho, Carlo, Sprong, Saarela, Kaprizov before Boeser.

Thats exactly 22 players, and as weird of a coincidence as that seems that its exactly 22, I just went through the 2015 draft on wikipedia quickly, picked players I'd rather have over Boeser, and it added up to 22, so I think Boeser was picked exactly where he should've, although he definitely wasn't a high profile pick, so the Canucks deserve credit for picking a player who wasn't talked about as much leading up to the draft as a lot of first rounders.
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He didnt make the U18's because the NTDP is sent there and he was with Waterloo. He was on the 2014 Hlinka squad and shredded the competition.

But you're right ... he was drafted where he should have been drafted. He would have been off the board had he cracked the lottery
 
clunk said:
Oh come on. We finally have a prospect that is putting up incredible numbers and exceeding expectations, and has a play style that looks like it will translate incredibly into the NHL... You must be fun at parties...
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Finally? The same has been said about every other canuck prospect and look how they panned out.
 
Rey said:
Finally? The same has been said about every other canuck prospect and look how they panned out.
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lol not really. This is different. Boeser is different. Boeser is dominating the NCAA as a FRESHMAN. A FRESHMAN... This isn't no overage or sophomore season.
 
Rey said:
You clearly haven't been on these boards long enough.
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Bud. You're on here getting upset at Canucks fans for hyping up a prospect when he's one of the only bright spots in this whole organization. Really don't care what you think. I'll hype up Brock because he deserves it. Kid is a stud. He's the reason that I still have a glimmer of hope for this organization.
 
clunk said:
lol not really. This is different. Boeser is different. Boeser is dominating the NCAA as a FRESHMAN. A FRESHMAN... This isn't no overage or sophomore season.
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Jordan Schroeder was ranked everywhere in the top 10 in his draft. Dominated the NCAA before he was drafted, leads the Americans in WJR points.
 
clunk said:
Bud. You're on here getting upset at Canucks fans for hyping up a prospect when he's one of the only bright spots in this whole organization. Really don't care what you think. I'll hype up Brock because he deserves it. Kid is a stud. He's the reason that I still have a glimmer of hope for this organization.
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Again. You haven't been here long enough. Every Canuck prospect that has been hyped in the past has busted big time.
 
Rey said:
Again. You haven't been here long enough. Every Canuck prospect that has been hyped in the past has busted big time.
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M8 I've been a Canuck fan for a long time. I don't need to be a member of a random hockey board to know that certain kids get overhyped here... But the fact is, Brock deserves the hype he gets... There's legit not one weakness in this kid's game... His weakest part is his skating but he's clearly improving in that aspect as well.. You're getting mad at Canucks fans for getting excited about a prospect.. Go get some fresh air.
 
clunk said:
M8 I've been a Canuck fan for a long time. I don't need to be a member of a random hockey board to know that certain kids get overhyped here... But the fact is, Brock deserves the hype he gets... There's legit not one weakness in this kid's game... His weakest part is his skating but he's clearly improving in that aspect as well.. You're getting mad at Canucks fans for getting excited about a prospect.. Go get some fresh air.
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Relax. You clearly don't understand how the internet works. No one is getting mad at anyone. You're the only one getting pissed off for whatever reason.
 
Icebreakers said:
What kind of post is this. lol. So hes not a good prospect because no one knew about him... what does your first paragraph even mean.

The only players that you would take over him that definitely would go over him are Mcdavid, Eichel, Strome, Marner, Hanifin, Provorov, Werenski, Rantanen, Connor, Barzal. Everyone else? Debatable. And your list of names after Konecny have no chance in going over Boeser besides Aho. You would take Carlo and Sprong over Boeser. Boeser has a higher GPG and almost the same ppg as Sprong as a freshman in the NCAA :laugh:
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Did I say he's a bad prospect? Can you please point to where I said that? What I said is pretty self-explanatory. Maybe you should try to read what I said carefully instead of just fuming over someone thinking Boeser isn't a top 10 prospect from the last draft.

I didn't say anyone should definitely regard my opinion. The players I named are who I'd take over him in a re-draft. A number of them are debatable, but I chose to not sit on the fence and say he's in the same tier as certain players, instead I gave my opinion of exactly where I'd have him.

You are severely underrating players that are doing well in Europe. Someone like Kaprizov was an all-star in the KHL, the second best league in the world. He has stats that are pretty close to on par with Tarasenko and Kuznetsov at the same age. Just because you don't watch these European players play doesn't mean they aren't just as good. How do you think Russia with all these undrafted players brings arguably the most talented team to the WJC's every single year? How did Finland with not that many draft picks win this year over countries like USA and Canada with tons of early round picks?
 
clunk said:
I think you're the one that needs to relax.
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It's unfortunate that HFboard doesn't leave history of old post. You remind me of the hundreds of fans who were attacking me, when i was in the Hype Schroeder and Hodgson threads, telling people not to act premature and lower the expectations a bit. Yet, years later and end result becomes comical.

If you are a canuck fan. You should know this. There's nothing wrong with hyping prospects. Every team has fans that do that. Guys don't need to bring other prospects down when none of them are in the NHL yet.

Hey, I want Boeser to be good too, but relax. Just Say'n you should lower your expectations because lots of things in the past has fallen flat.
 
Rey said:
It's unfortunate that HFboard doesn't leave history of old post. You remind me of the hundreds of fans who were attacking me, when i was in the Hype Schroeder and Hodgson threads, telling people not to act premature and lower the expectations a bit. Yet, years later and end result becomes comical.
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You literally said if you're a Canucks fan and getting excited about a very good prospect you should be ashamed of yourself... Like Lol. What do you expect us to do? Especially on a board that has a hard on for prospects? We have an exciting prospect exceeding expectations and you're trying to act like we're dumb because we have high hopes... lol.. 'You should be ashamed of yourself if you're a Canucks fan'. Smh
 
Rey said:
If you are a canuck fan. You should know this. There's nothing wrong with hyping prospects. Every team has fans that do that. Guys don't need to bring other prospects down when none of them are in the NHL yet.
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Then why are you saying we should be ashamed for hyping a prospect?
 
clunk said:
Then why are you saying we should be ashamed for hyping a prospect?
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Well, if you read my post and not automatically freaked out because not everyone is in the "OMFG PROSPECT" bandwagon. I posted because people were making fun of another dude who had Boeser ranked were he was drafted, while other dudes were laughing at him and calling him names because they thought Boeser was a top 10 talent.

It's okay to have an opinion. Just because people don't disagree with you, doesn't mean it's the end of the world. That's the problem with HFboard. Everyone and their mothers think they are experts.

It's funny because some people on here actually thought Dane Fox was going to be a 40 goal scorer for the Canucks. He was traded recently to Carolina for future considerations, and he couldn't even crack the AHL. Anyone who watched him play, knew he wasn't a good enough skater, yet people judge from the highlights and make quick judgement.
 
Rey said:
Well, if you read my post and not automatically freaked out because not everyone is in the "OMFG PROSPECT" bandwagon. I posted because people were making fun of another dude who had Boeser were he was drafted, while other dudes were laughing at him and calling him names because they thought Boeser was a top 10 talent.
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Didn't make fun of him... Just questioned why he'd have those types of prospects ahead of Brock if it's judging how they're doing right NOW in a redraft. That's what the whole point was. This is an online hockey forum dedicated to prospects... You're allowed to judge peoples' prospect rankings and argue about prospects... Or like Icebreakers said, what's the point?
 
Rey said:
It's funny because some people on here actually thought Dane Fox was going to be a 40 goal scorer for the Canucks. He was traded recently to Carolina for future considerations, and he couldn't even crack the AHL. Anyone who watched him play, knew he wasn't a good enough skater, yet people judge from the highlights and make quick judgement.
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Not me. He was an overager. I would have been ecstatic if he turned into a decent 4th liner for us. It was clear watching him he likely wouldn't make it as a top 6 guy in the NHL.. The fact is Brock is doing this all as a freshman in a league harder than the Canadian junior leagues, which has a much higher focus on defense, playing against kids much older. It's a completely different situation than Fox.
 
clunk said:
Didn't make fun of him... Just questioned why he'd have those types of prospects ahead of Brock if it's judging how they're doing right NOW in a redraft. That's what the whole point was. This is an online hockey forum dedicated to prospects... You're allowed to judge peoples' prospect rankings and argue about prospects... Or like Icebreakers said, what's the point?
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Please do it rationally. Again. Every opinion is different. Just because they have a different opinion doesn't mean they are wrong. Most of these kids are 19, and haven't touched the NHL for anyone to know what they are going to do.

Relax, and don't freak out. It's a just a hockey board. My opinion on everything mostly is neutral. I don't understand people who actually get worked up over these things. It's comical.
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
Did I say he's a bad prospect? Can you please point to where I said that? What I said is pretty self-explanatory. Maybe you should try to read what I said carefully instead of just fuming over someone thinking Boeser isn't a top 10 prospect from the last draft.

I didn't say anyone should definitely regard my opinion. The players I named are who I'd take over him in a re-draft. A number of them are debatable, but I chose to not sit on the fence and say he's in the same tier as certain players, instead I gave my opinion of exactly where I'd have him.

You are severely underrating players that are doing well in Europe. Someone like Kaprizov was an all-star in the KHL, the second best league in the world. He has stats that are pretty close to on par with Tarasenko and Kuznetsov at the same age. Just because you don't watch these European players play doesn't mean they aren't just as good. How do you think Russia with all these undrafted players brings arguably the most talented team to the WJC's every single year? How did Finland with not that many draft picks win this year over countries like USA and Canada with tons of early round picks?
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How do you take Carlo over Boeser?
 
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