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RW Alexander Nylander (2016, 8th, BUF)

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11p in 5 games as 1 year underage, his brother had 10p in 7 games, as a 1 year underage, so wjc 20 is a place Alex have been better.

When the commentators hardly notice when at the end of period 2 against slovakia he steals the puck and create a very dangerours scoring chance for his team mate. If they do not even notice that, it is no wonder they think he is invisable.
 
Best thing about his production at the WJCs so far is that it hasn't been disproportionately against weak teams. At least 2 points in every game so far. He's been very consistent.
 
If you don't "understand" him when you watch him here's a tip. Watch him in the neutral zone. He's incredible there especially with short passes around/between defenders. He's going to rack up a lot of secondary assists in the NHL because of his neutral zone play and I think a lot of his goals will come off rebounds generated by the odd man rushes he creates there.
 
Good hands, can shoot and can make plays with the puck.

Think he's the perfect winger for Eichel.
 
What's up with this kid? His numbers in the AHL this year are quite a bit lower than I would've expected.
 
TimeZone said:
What's up with this kid? His numbers in the AHL this year are quite a bit lower than I would've expected.
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He has been disappointing BUT the AHL is a man's league and he's still a slightly built boy. His brother also played a half season in the AHL at the same age but William had almost 2 years playing against men in the SHL. So it's probably going to take Alex longer - he definitely has to get bigger/stronger over the summer to have a shot at being in the NHL next season. Going back to the SHL next year is an option but I hope he doesn't go that route.
 
BiPolarBear said:
He has been disappointing BUT the AHL is a man's league and he's still a slightly built boy. His brother also played a half season in the AHL at the same age but William had almost 2 years playing against men in the SHL. So it's probably going to take Alex longer - he definitely has to get bigger/stronger over the summer to have a shot at being in the NHL next season. Going back to the SHL next year is an option but I hope he doesn't go that route.
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Willy only played something less than a full season worth of games in the SHL, with half of that time being post NHL-draft. Pre-draft he spent most of his time in the Swedish 2nd tier.
 
alex has now played the same amount of ahl games as william in his draft+1.

alex: 37gp 5g 12a 17p

willy: 37gp 14g 18a 32p (after coming over from the shl where he had 20p in 21 games)

not the be all end all or anything but just for comparison.
 
animalanimal said:
alex has now played the same amount of ahl games as william in his draft+1.

alex: 37gp 5g 12a 17p

willy: 37gp 14g 18a 32p (after coming over from the shl where he had 20p in 21 games)

not the be all end all or anything but just for comparison.
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I don't know why his stats are so modest? I have not seen any Rochester games. Other than seeing they are not a very good team in the standings.

If you compare Alex's WJC stats to William's. Alex was better this year at the WJC at the same age when William played. I would certainly expect more than 5 goals at this point.

WJC U20
Alexander 7GP 5G 7A 12P
William 7GP 3G 7A 10P
 
The Winter Soldier said:
I don't know why his stats are so modest? I have not seen any Rochester games. Other than seeing they are not a very good team in the standings.

If you compare Alex's WJC stats to William's. Alex was better this year at the WJC at the same age when William played. I would certainly expect more than 5 goals at this point.

WJC U20
Alexander 7GP 5G 7A 12P
William 7GP 3G 7A 10P
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Tougher competition.
 
The Americans were a bad team to start the year. Then the Sabres had a ton of injuries and had to call up all of their decent defensemen (Fedun 19 games up, Falk 31 games up, Nelson 9 games up). That's on top of their top players Bailey (9 games up) and Baptiste (12 games up) having spells with the Sabres and Fasching being hurt all year. Carrier has been with Sabres most of the year.

I honestly don't watch Rochester often, so Idk if Nylander looks awful or not. But I know they definitely don't have players to be anything close to a good team.
 
William has always been the more electrifying player of the two and the more dominant player against his own age group. Having seen them both at the WJC's I must however say that Alex is the smarter player. William must have the puck on his stick to be dangerous offensively, Alex is highly skilled with the puck but he also finds the right spots to score, a skill that will be particularly useful at the NHL level. Alex is also better along the boards and in traffic while William is the better skater. I think Alex has closed the gap significantly and could eventually become a better player than his brother.
 
The Winter Soldier said:
Perhaps. I think he will be fine and his numbers will only get better. Maybe in the 2nd half of the season. He's got too much skill and smarts not to score at this level.
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More like you've invested too much energy into calling him the better Nylander, since the other one plays for the Leafs. He will get a lot better, but I've always said he'll be a good 2nd line player rather than a 1st line star like Willy.
 
I would not immediately compare William and Alex for the first year in the AHL. Reason being is that William already played professional hockey in SHL which is comparable to AHL.

Let's see how Alex does the rest of this and next year in the AHL. If he gets called up playing really well next season he will be on the same track.
 
Huffman said:
William has always been the more electrifying player of the two and the more dominant player against his own age group. Having seen them both at the WJC's I must however say that Alex is the smarter player. William must have the puck on his stick to be dangerous offensively, Alex is highly skilled with the puck but he also finds the right spots to score, a skill that will be particularly useful at the NHL level. Alex is also better along the boards and in traffic while William is the better skater. I think Alex has closed the gap significantly and could eventually become a better player than his brother.
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Buffalo plays a heavy game. Alex's ability to play along the boards will help him in Buffalo's system.
 
Alex may never have the ceiling that William has but I've always been impressed by the extent to which Alex excels at playing a conventional NHL game, in so far as his success comes from his ability to make quick, smart plays in the offensive zone. He's the type of forward I'd feel very confident about being a top 6 forward.

There are significant differences between the two but that specific trait reminds me of Pavelski.
 
Marc BargainBin said:
Alex may never have the ceiling that William has but I've always been impressed by the extent to which Alex excels at playing a conventional NHL game, in so far as his success comes from his ability to make quick, smart plays in the offensive zone. He's the type of forward I'd feel very confident about being a top 6 forward.

There are significant differences between the two but that specific trait reminds me of Pavelski.
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not a bad comparison, similar shot, but alex is much faster and a bit bigger. Pavs prolly has the better iq as well.
 
So only 24 points in 52 games. 7 points in 23 games post-WJC. Certainly not doing as well as his brother or Mikko Rantanen. What's wrong with him?
 
Weird timing. He scored the game winner last night for the Amerks.

Rochester is a terrible team, and he's struggling to adapt a little from what I've heard (which isn't surprising at 18). There's no real reason for concern.
 
Luddowich said:
He's 18 years old playing on a bad AHL team in his first pro season.
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I think his surprise at the production and resulting question come due to the fact that most have said he's just as good as his brother and others have argued that he's better than his brother. I think he'll be fine, some players develop at different paces so I wouldn't be too worried about his production. AHL still the better development choice than the OHL as well imo.
 
Jamesbay said:
So only 24 points in 52 games. 7 points in 23 games post-WJC. Certainly not doing as well as his brother or Mikko Rantanen. What's wrong with him?
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For one thing it's pretty clear he wasn't as ready for the AHL as his brother or Rantanen. Both had pro experience before their AHL debuts, so that's likely part of it, other than whatever innate to the individual players leads to readiness. On top of that, the team is an utter disgrace, so it's really hard to fairly evaluate Alex. It seems his confidence has been low throughout the season, with the exception of the WJC. It's clear he needs to have a big summer of workouts.
 
18 year olds in the AHl is rare. By the time he is 20, he might be PPG who knows.

I saw him live at the WJC, hes got a good release, good instincts.

To me he has 30-30 or 30-20 potential, which is potent.There probably won't be a 45-50 goals scorer in this league this year.

Give him time. Also, William is a special talent, Alex is a notch below. So what?
 
He showed at the WJC that he's easily a top player of his age group. Playing in a pro league is not easy for an 18 year old, especially not for one who isn't physically mature.
 

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