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RW Alexander Nylander (2016, 8th, BUF)

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The Mentalist said:
How about accepting an opinion based on actual viewings of a player made by a poster that it may be possible. People are allowed to have opinions do they not? Pronman saying the same thing I said weeks ago does add validity to my statement to some I would assume, and I say this even though Pronman is not one of my favorite draft commentators. But in this one case I do agree with him.
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Everyone is entitled to an opinion. It would also be encouraged to not mislead information throughout posts I.E The Pre-season ranking vs final ranking. An opinion is just that, an opinion, but when it lacks consistency (Center/Winger debate), people will take that opinion less and less serious.
 
Pronman had William Nylander the #1 rated prospect before the 2015 draft, so I wouldn't be surprised if he thinks Alex has a shot at being the #3 or #4 pick in this draft considering those tweets
 
TheLeastOfTheBunch said:
Pronman had William Nylander the #1 rated prospect before the 2015 draft, so I wouldn't be surprised if he thinks Alex has a shot at being the #3 or #4 pick in this draft considering those tweets
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pretty sure in his final rankings he had him at 3rd behind Ekblad and Bennett.
 
X66 said:
Everyone is entitled to an opinion. It would also be encouraged to not mislead information throughout posts I.E The Pre-season ranking vs final ranking. An opinion is just that, an opinion, but when it lacks consistency (Center/Winger debate), people will take that opinion less and less serious.
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Who exactly is talking about preseason rankings vs Final rankings? We were discussing what Pronman said of not being sure who was a better prospect of the Nylander brothers. Something he is not sure of. Something I posted to weeks ago where you made an absolute statement that William was better.

There are no absolutes at this stage for one to make such a proclaimation.

Prospects threads are based on opinions. Since no one knows how prospects turn out for years to come. Some opinions are made by viewing players. This is what we have to go on.

And from my viewings of Alex Nylander, he is already a top notch prospect that based on what I have seen thus far, could be better than William Nylander. It's not as far fetched as you absolutely made it sound weeks ago.
 
Nice little dish to Burnside off the rush on the only goal scored for the Steelheads.

Overall looked pretty dangerous.

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WilliamNylander said:
Does he go before McLeod or after?
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That will be very interesting to see. I think it will come down to need, as an argument for bpa could easily be made for either, and I think a team like the Leafs would lean towards McLeod as he fills more of a need. But I just have a gut feeling that we will draft some Babcock type players for him to work with, that, and some much needed size in our potential top 6.

Although we are lacking a potential #1 RW to replace Kessel still...
 
The Mentalist said:
Right now, Nylander.

It's too early to make a definitive judgment. Mcleod may still have some growth in his game that will put him right there with Nylander.

Nylander to me can finish right now, in the goal strapped NHL today. This is an immense benefit.
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That's a good point.
 
Mynhldraft has him going 7th overall. Would you call this realistic folks based on what you've seen or is he a 10-15 range player.
 
NHL Dude 120 said:
Mynhldraft has him going 7th overall. Would you call this realistic folks based on what you've seen or is he a 10-15 range player.
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He is definitely top 10 IMO. Not as good as the Finns so I put him in the 6-8 range but if he slipped past 10 I would be very surprised.
 
Saying that Alex is on the same level as William offensively is downright wrong. I've been following these players the last 3 years and I'm by no means a Leaf fan.

William's J20 season as a 16 year old is the best I've seen from any player in that league. Alex was also really impressive, but he just doesn't have the same ability to dominate games like that. In fact, he wasn't even the highest scoring 98-born player on his team.

There are things Alex does better than William. He's slightly bigger and he engages more physically, his two-way game is slighty better and his shot is also slightly better. These are only small differences though and William makes up for it and more with his skating ability and that "cocky" mentality (in a good way) which is really what separates the two.
 
Very difficult position for the Leafs.

the possibilities:
Matthews for sure
Would you take Tkachuk?
Chycrun?
Puljajarvi?
Laine?
even Juolevi?

If we finish in the lottery, do we trade down, or do you think who is in the lottery right now it worth it.

For ANylander only, the best scenario for the Leafs would be to lose out of the lottery, maybe even gain a spot or two. If he sank down to the teens, we would have a better shot...its not looking good to get him right now.
 
Huffman said:
Saying that Alex is on the same level as William offensively is downright wrong. I've been following these players the last 3 years and I'm by no means a Leaf fan.

William's J20 season as a 16 year old is the best I've seen from any player in that league. Alex was also really impressive, but he just doesn't have the same ability to dominate games like that. In fact, he wasn't even the highest scoring 98-born player on his team.

There are things Alex does better than William. He's slightly bigger and he engages more physically, his two-way game is slighty better and his shot is also slightly better. These are only small differences though and William makes up for it and more with his skating ability and that "cocky" mentality (in a good way) which is really what separates the two.
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His wrister or his one timer? Williams shot has improved an insane amount over the past year or so. Check out his recent highlights from this Season. If his wrister is better than Williams that's one hell of a compliment.
 
At the Steelheads game this afternoon. Nylander is putting on a show. A goal and assist thus far midway in the 2nd.

Will write more on the game later today.
 
If anyone did not see it yet. Nylander's 2nd goal today was a filthy snipe. The kid's got a better shot than a lot of NHL players already. Ended the game with 2 goals and 1 assist in a win over Barrie.

He continues to impress me. Makes quick high !Q passes, never holds onto the puck too long, goes to the right places on the ice. An added bonus is he was the often the first back on the backcheck a few times, though Mcleod is good at this also.

Infact He and Mcleod were flying out there on the ice today. Both are Only 17 and are going to get better. If they stay together next season, they will be even more dominant. Fun game today to watch.
 
If the Leafs end up picking in the 5-7 range, Alex should be on their radar. These 2 are fascinating to watch and to have both of them along with Marner would be an excellent foundation along with kids like Rielly and Kadri
 
I've watched both of the Nylanders and sometimes you would think they are twins. William is a better skater yet Alexander has better vision.
 
They are brothers, they should have relatively similar trajectory

William completely outscored him at every age group through their lives.

Is it more likely to assume that in their draft year, the first non-comparable year league wise that they had , that Alex got way better and became a better prospect, or that if William was in the OHL he would have put up even more points and would still be considered the better prospect.


They are close, and the fact Alex has a bit more size makes them very close, but I still believe that William's scoring rates would've been higher in his draft season, and will be higher for most of their careers. That said, its just my opinion, I might be very wrong.
 
If the Leafs take this kid, it could be like the mapleleaf version of the sedins, except for the fact they aren't twins. But the brothers play a similar style to each other and they are both immensely skilled. Will be fun to see a preview of that on team sweden
 
SingleAallStar said:
They are brothers, they should have relatively similar trajectory

William completely outscored him at every age group through their lives.

Is it more likely to assume that in their draft year, the first non-comparable year league wise that they had , that Alex got way better and became a better prospect, or that if William was in the OHL he would have put up even more points and would still be considered the better prospect.


They are close, and the fact Alex has a bit more size makes them very close, but I still believe that William's scoring rates would've been higher in his draft season, and will be higher for most of their careers. That said, its just my opinion, I might be very wrong.
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It's not really right to assume that brothers would have similar trajectories. I seriously doubt there's anything to back that up either in sports or in general. Still, like you said, William has been clearly the better player at every stage up until arguably their draft seasons. He's the better prospect to me. William had a crazy draft year where he was bouncing all over between two Allvenskan (second-tier pro) teams and MODO, so it's tough to judge. When with MODO that year he didn't get much ice time.
 
Here is a conversation Craig Button had last night on the comparisons of the 2 brothers. I am not sure this is going to work but will try posting it.

 
Paxon said:
It's not really right to assume that brothers would have similar trajectories. I seriously doubt there's anything to back that up either in sports or in general. Still, like you said, William has been clearly the better player at every stage up until arguably their draft seasons. He's the better prospect to me. William had a crazy draft year where he was bouncing all over between two Allvenskan (second-tier pro) teams and MODO, so it's tough to judge. When with MODO that year he didn't get much ice time.
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This is a very good point. Will was a top 3 player going into his draft year, but his "stock" fell hard during that unsettled season, only to rebound hard once he found himself in a stable situation.

I think that the Nylander's learned from this, and it influenced the decision for Alex to play his draft year in NA in a situation that was almost certainly going to be beneficial
 
Not a Leafs fan but it'd pretty cool to see him and William pan out and play in Toronto for the next decade or so. I'm just too used to watching 2 Swedish brothers playing on the same team :laugh:
 

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