UFO
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It's wild, wasn't he hailed as captain material and seemed to be mature and full of intagibles during the draft?
Now he comes across as a spoiled brat.
Now he comes across as a spoiled brat.
Prospect Info: Rutger McGroarty, 2022 NHL Draft, #14 Overall
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JetsWillFly4Ever
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I hope he comes to his senses , changes his representation and comes back to the Jets org with his tail tucked between his legs.
I will accept him back as a fan of he does so, he is still a young kid with lots of people in his ear about what is best for him. I don't agree with what he is doing but people, especially young people make mistakes. If he admits it was a mistake and comes back and does the right things, works hard and becomes a Jet, no bad blood for me.
I will accept him back as a fan of he does so, he is still a young kid with lots of people in his ear about what is best for him. I don't agree with what he is doing but people, especially young people make mistakes. If he admits it was a mistake and comes back and does the right things, works hard and becomes a Jet, no bad blood for me.
there's players and people in this league that have done way worse than this that get chances, forgiven, welcomed back etc. he's doing nothing illegal or outside of the nhl rules. don't hate the player - hate the game (or system).
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cbcwpg
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JMO, but if all Chevy wanted for Rutger were draft pick(s) he would have been traded already. But, I think Chevy wants an actual warm body. And yes, other teams are going to be reluctant to trade an actual player for someone who has never been in professional hockey.
My hope is that Chevy and Rutger can work something out, so one day we actually get to see if this guy can play or not and for the Jets, and not some other team. Sign a contract, come to camp, you will get an opportunity to make the team, and if not you play for the Moose for a year. It's not the end of the world.
My hope is that Chevy and Rutger can work something out, so one day we actually get to see if this guy can play or not and for the Jets, and not some other team. Sign a contract, come to camp, you will get an opportunity to make the team, and if not you play for the Moose for a year. It's not the end of the world.
Chevy needs to trade some of his LW surplus anyways. Might as well start with McGroarty.
I think the fact that we have a surplus allows Chevy to accept a trade focused on futures if that's the best value offer that he gets. I agree that he'd rather get an asset that is more ready, I just don't think it's a requirement.
I think the fact that we have a surplus allows Chevy to accept a trade focused on futures if that's the best value offer that he gets. I agree that he'd rather get an asset that is more ready, I just don't think it's a requirement.
Everyone on here hates on players for various reasons. Unearned entitlement is my line. Choose your own line and don’t worry about mine.
I think the Ehlers and McGroarty situations might be linked. I expect that if they trade both, they'll want a mix of futures and a strong roster player if they trade both. If they trade only McGroarty, I think an equivalent prospect / pick return would be fine. If they trade Ehlers, they'd likely need to get a roster player to supplement the current roster.
Has nothing to do with your line, but the NHL's given how they've reacted with individuals who actually have done bad or illegal things, and outside the rules. Which at this point, Rutger has not.
May not want to post about your line or whatever on a public forum since you're so sensitive to comments. I actually agree with unearned entitlement (see post#1531) but at the end of the day ppl who have done way worse things still get drafted or work in the league, so w/e our individual line is, doesn't matter.
Guardian17
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I think we should be a bit cautious about claims about McGroarty's attitude. The Jets and other teams might be frustrated that he'd prefer to play in the NCAA than in the AHL, particularly because of the clock ticking towards UFA status. But he can make more money in the NCAA and being captain of a top NCAA team is a good gig. It's also not a terrible development situation. Drafted players often opt to stay in Europe or Russia rather than playing in the AHL, and I don't see that as very different.
Of course it's frustrating for the Jets because they wanted him signed so they could get him into the system, and naturally other teams are going to be reluctant to make a big trade offer if he's saying he'll return to the NCAA next season rather than the AHL.
Of course it's frustrating for the Jets because they wanted him signed so they could get him into the system, and naturally other teams are going to be reluctant to make a big trade offer if he's saying he'll return to the NCAA next season rather than the AHL.
it might be true.
but im not surprised WPG based reporters are going to painting the opposing party as the bad guy though. there's 3 sides to every story.
How does he make money playing college hockey??
Cypruss
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You can look up NIL valuations. NIL stands for Name, Image and Likeness. Players can NOW receive money, while playing college sports, for product endorsement, TV commercials, branded ads on social media, college boosters can also give money to players if they want. All of these were violations before the supreme court passed this change (in 2021, effective for 2022 I think....but don't hold me to that).
In 2023, top few were:
1. Shedeur Sanders - $4.5 million (Football - Colorado)
2. Livvy Dunne - $3.9 million (Gymnastics - LSU)
3. Arch Manning - $2.8 million (Football - Texas)
4. Travis Hunter - $2.7 million (Football - Colorado)
5. Quinn Ewers - $1.9 million (Football - Texas)
10 Cooper Flagg - $1.4 million (Basketball - Duke) (Top basketball player)
No hockey player received over $1,000,000 in *reported* compensation
illegal-curve on their June 22nd show mentioned probably 6 figures playing college hockey. 0 idea where they got this info from or if they're just shooting random numbers. 12:45 mins in
NCAA athletes are now allowed to profit from their "brand". Maybe he's cooking up a McGroarty app or signing pucks for cash? I imagine a top Michigan hockey player could make something...a few hundred maybe from local sponsorships? Free supply of Absopure water?
Some schools are talking about paying their athletes minimum wage. $10.33/hr is the Michigan state minimum wage. So that would only take 9196.5 hours (4.4 years working 8 hours a day, 5 days a week) to make up the $95K max ELC signing bonus...
Skidooboy
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sorry. I'm over this kid.
tell him he can sit and rot in the NCAA the next three years.
i'd rather teach all these agents and kids a lesson than have this asshat on the team.
tell him he can sit and rot in the NCAA the next three years.
i'd rather teach all these agents and kids a lesson than have this asshat on the team.
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I've mentioned something similar as well. But I don't necessarily think if they do indeed end up trading both that they can't trade them both for futures. The key is that in another deal or deals, they can use their own futures (parts of what we already had and/or parts of what comes back in the two trades) to get a roster player or two.
han316
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If he is an NHL player, he's going to make tens of Millions in his playing career. I have a hard time believing he's willing to hold out a year cause he might make 50k more. That's ridiculous. I feel this is only 10% of the story, there must be more to it.
Those are just estimates, I think... https://www.on3.com/nil/news/about-on3-nil-valuation-per-post-value/
Not even sure anyone bothers with NCAA hockey valuations. 6 figures is probably pushing it. In terms of viewership popularity, hockey's in the same range as Div II basketball, lacrosse and women's volleyball championships (2023 numbers below).
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Those are just estimates, I think... https://www.on3.com/nil/news/about-on3-nil-valuation-per-post-value/
Not even sure anyone bothers with NCAA hockey valuations. 6 figures is probably pushing it. In terms of viewership popularity, hockey's in the same range as Div II basketball, lacrosse and women's volleyball championships (2023 numbers below).
This is my understanding as well. From what I have heard NCAA hockey players can get stuff like free hotel rooms, free lunches, free 6 month supply of protein powder by selling their "likeness" (posting IG ads and such) but I don't think it comes close to an NHL ELC signing bonus let alone the full NHL pay even on an ELC let alone a 2nd contract.
He was born March 2004. He’s going to be ufa in 2031. He will be 27 in 2031 and should have the required 4 accrued seasons by then. So ahl, NCAA or nhl this upcoming season won’t change that.
Just a matter of which roster he should be on this upcoming season. Has he done as much as he can in the NCAA where another season there won’t improve his game or does he need to take on the challenge of playing against the A? And for his skill development, skating as an issue so does he get better at that in the ncaa or ahl?
Doesn’t sound like he’d walk right into the nhl right now and stick for the whole season.
Still, he'd get a $95,000 signing bonus, plus if he hadn't been an ass about everything, I'm sure Chevy could've at least guaranteed him a 10 game shot in the upcoming season in the NHL and that's worth another $250,000 bonus (and a couple of weeks of NHL salary), plus the AHL salary of $95,000 or whatever. So ~$450K. And he would've had an extra $95,000 bonus if he'd signed June 30th and burned a year of ELC too.
He must really have his heart set on picking his landing spot. Well, 25 months to go if he's really set on it.
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