Prospect Info: Rutger McGroarty, 2022 NHL Draft, #14 Overall

[han316]

it's not nhl vs NCAA for next year, it's ahl vs ncaa.

I get that, that's why i stated the difference in potential earnings. He would make much more in the NHL.

 

[Jetsfan79]

So apparently Rutger's father was a former minor pro and /or junior player, coach, scout and GM. I'm not saying he's the influence. Just surprised of the current happenings considering his father has hockey blood in him.

Jim McGroarty - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

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[Buffdog]

So apparently Rutger's father was a former minor pro and /or junior player, coach, scout and GM. I'm not saying he's the influence. Just surprised of the current happenings considering his father has hockey blood in him.

Jim McGroarty - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Jim McGroarty, 1972-04-24 Mississauga, ON, CAN Canada. Most recently in the WCHL with Phoenix Mustangs. Complete player biography and stats.

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That's hilarious... he played in the Sunshine League. I hadn't thought of that league in probably 25 years. Had a couple of buddies play down there

It's crazy to me how much parents still meddle in their kids careers, even at higher levels. Of all the years my kids played sports (I figure they've been on around 80 teams total between hockey and summer sports), I've contacted coaches three times - and once was a time when a guy shortened his bench in a spring hockey tournament with 6 year olds lol

My daughter plays U Sport and the thought of me messaging the coach because I don't like her usagen is insane to me, but apparently it happens all the time. I was blown away when I found that out

Hopefully this isn't a case of dad living vicariously through his son. He could be poisoning a bunch of wells for his kid

 

[snowkiddin]

That's hilarious... he played in the Sunshine League. I hadn't thought of that league in probably 25 years. Had a couple of buddies play down there

It's crazy to me how much parents still meddle in their kids careers, even at higher levels. Of all the years my kids played sports (I figure they've been on around 80 teams total between hockey and summer sports), I've contacted coaches three times - and once was a time when a guy shortened his bench in a spring hockey tournament with 6 year olds lol

My daughter plays U Sport and the thought of me messaging the coach because I don't like her usagen is insane to me, but apparently it happens all the time. I was blown away when I found that out

Hopefully this isn't a case of dad living vicariously through his son. He could be poisoning a bunch of wells for his kid

Laugh reacting at the ridiculousness of a coach shortening his bench in a game for six-year-olds, not at the ridiculousness of your opinion (for a change )

 

[Buffdog]

Laugh reacting at the ridiculousness of a coach shortening his bench in a game for six-year-olds, not at the ridiculousness of your opinion (for a change )

Don't worry, I'm used to my posts being ridiculed lol

The funniest thing about that story is that my son was one of the ones he sat (and we still lost). I was SO pissed that I couldn't sleep that night and I sent the (snarky) email at around 2:00am. He accused me of being an alcoholic because of it lol

 

[MelikeJets]

Trade him to f@#k Vegas then I can double hate him

 

[snowkiddin]

Don't worry, I'm used to my posts being ridiculed lol

I know, I’ve been watching the start of World War 3 between you and @WolfHouse over in the Stanley thread. Not sure if the mods have joined Chevy at the cottage or what

The funniest thing about that story is that my son was one of the ones he sat (and we still lost). I was SO pissed that I couldn't sleep that night and I sent the (snarky) email at around 2:00am. He accused me of being an alcoholic because of it lol

I would’ve loved to have been a proverbial fly on the wall at that team’s bowling season windup party that year.

 

[Jetsfan79]

Even though both scenarios are not ideal, I'm wondering if Rutger's demand is to start in the NHL or if it's a guarentee that he doesn't get demoted to the AHL after given an opportunity from the onset. . If the Jets actually offered a guarenteed start in the NHL and he said no " that's not enough"..., that would be insane.

 

[JetsFan815]

it might be true.
but im not surprised WPG based reporters are going to painting the opposing party as the bad guy though. there's 3 sides to every story.

It's not like Sean Reynolds or Mike McIntyre are water carriers for TNSE. If it was someone like Toth talking about this stuff I'd take it more with a grain of salt but Reynolds has an adversarial relationship with TNSE and McIntyre is pretty down the middle traditional reporter so I am inclined to believe them.

 

[JetsFan815]

Murat also confirming that he's heard that atleast one team who was in to trade for him has been turned off by the NHL playing time demand

https://x.com/i/web/status/1811134071407317070

 

[Buffdog]

I know, I’ve been watching the start of World War 3 between you and @WolfHouse over in the Stanley thread. Not sure if the mods have joined Chevy at the cottage or what

I would’ve loved to have been a proverbial fly on the wall at that team’s bowling season windup party that year.

No bowling windups for losers lol... even at 6 years old

They had a great team. Four of those kids went on to have full WHL careers, and a couple more in the MJHL

But at the time, all the crazy parents would have told you that their kids were a lock to make the show

 

[Hobble]

Boo hoo. My friends drafted by bad teams get to have ice time guaranteed because they have bad rosters and just want to fill seats with young stars. But I’m drafted by a good team that is competing in the playoffs, so I actually have to work to squeeze my way in. Woe is me.

 

[BobTheSolarsystem]

Murat also confirming that he's heard that atleast one team who was in to trade for him has been turned off by the NHL playing time demand

https://x.com/i/web/status/1811134071407317070

Ahhh seems like only last offseason that news 'leaked' about helles asking price being too high for teams. And no one biting on the price for scheif..

Weird how news leaks like that...

 

[Mooche]

You have to wonder when the moment of clarity comes for Rutger here. Whoever is driving the bus -- family, reps, etc. -- public sentiment and league opinion are turning on you in a hurry.

Talk about overplaying your hand.

What a mess.

 

[SCP Guy]

What idiot team was put off by his demands? Why did they think we were trading him because we don’t like his choice of music? How could this be a surprise to them lol

 

[surixon]

Seems Rutger is finding out he isn't the caliber of prospect that can make these demands. Teams are seemingly put off by them.

 

[snowkiddin]

Seems Rutger is finding out he isn't the caliber of prospect that can make these demands. Teams are seemingly put off by them.

You had me worried since you hadn’t posted since Saturday and you’re usually quite habitual.

I thought maybe you lost your arms in a tragic, yet ironic, beaver-petting mishap.

 

[BobTheSolarsystem]

I'd be surprised if mcGro doesn't have a two team trade list... anaheim or columbus to play with his buddies

 

[Sam I Am]

I think the Jets are using the same playbook as they used with Scheifele and Hellebuyck last year. Big speculation they wanted out and wouldn’t sign with the Jets. Chevy shops them around a bit, with a really high price tag. No one bites. Then Chevy goes back to them, tells them that the Jets value them a lot more than any other team does, bends a little bit and eventually signs them.

I could see a similar path with Rutger. Imagine Rutger hearing that the Wild would rather have Buium than him.

Buium is a blue chip prospect. Who wouldn't rather have him than McG?

 

[drumzan]

I wonder if Columbus’s coaching search will have any impact on McGroarty’s trade talks. Sounds like it’s down to 2 candidates with LAK and CBJ not coming to an agreement on contract negotiations with McLellan. Once a head coach is hired, talks could pick up. Or alternatively, shut down completely.

 

[Sam I Am]

It’s really a page out of his USNDT teammate Cutter Gautier’s playbook. Flyer fans were furious with him for doing pretty much the exact same thing. Gauthier got his way and will be lacing up for Anaheim next season. So far it seems like Chevy is more patient and McGroarty is twiddling his thumbs for now.

That crop on that USNDT including Nazar and also McG’s Michigan teammate Brindley were all in a rush to play in the NHL right f***ing now.

As a Jets fan all I care about is getting the best deal we can and if that takes time then it’s an added bonus. I would prefer McG’s bluff be called and that he is forced to go back to Michigan for a season while all his buddies play in the NHL. Now I only want that if it helps our return. If the trade return value is too low then let him rot.

McG may be sharing Cutter Gauthier's playbook but he is no Cutter Gauthier. Gauthier was a 5th overall pick and a far superior prospect with more than twice the number of goals and a much better D+1 year than McG.

McG is a solid mid-1st rounder with a decent chance at a productive NHL career. It is unlikely that he is a superstar in waiting. And the truth is that prospects of McG's calibre have to earn their way into an NHL lineup, often via the AHL.

It's seems inconsistent that a guy so eager to make the NHL will have the patience to play two more years in college to qualify for free agency. Either the Jets will find some way for him to save face and report to camp or he'll be traded.

 

[Weezeric]

Buium is a blue chip prospect. Who wouldn't rather have him than McG?

I don’t disagree with you, but if McGroarty thinks he’s a 20 year old top six NHL player instead of a decent prospect who will have to earn his way to the NHL, he probably does.

 

[kylbaz]

Ahhh seems like only last offseason that news 'leaked' about helles asking price being too high for teams. And no one biting on the price for scheif..

Weird how news leaks like that...

Don't forget Murat telling us mcgroaty trade will happen before the draft. All nobodies pretending they know.

 

[kylbaz]

Buium is a blue chip prospect. Who wouldn't rather have him than McG?

Let's see where he is in two years. For decades three quarters of these guys in the first round fizzle out yet every year they get over hyped when drafted.

 

[enuffidiotsalready]

Don't forget Murat telling us mcgroaty trade will happen before the draft. All nobodies pretending they know.

you pump gas in St Adolphe, correct?