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Which of the recent prospect additions intrigues you the most?

  • Noah Philp coming out of retirement

  • Connor Ungar - Brock University (USPORTS)

  • James Stefan - Portland Winterhawks (WHL)

  • Marc Lajoie - Edmonton Oil Kings (WHL)


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ottawah

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No Ceci will gone for sure.

As for Stetcher, I wonder if it's something like skating bite that just went bad?

I'd say not for sure given . Ceci is an integral part of a very good PK. And since moving away from Nurse, his GA/60 have dropped by a massive amount. 5v5, 3.9 GA/60 (153 minutes) with Nurse, vs .8 GA/60 (152 minutes) without Nurse. And Nurse has gone to 4.4 GA/60 without Ceci.

Might not be ideal, but a 25 point RHD man who does not turn the puck over and does a good job of keeping it out of his own net has value. Not sure what you get for 3.25M these days that can be any better.
 

McDoused

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I thought it was really interesting that Kalle was highly sought after and pursued by a lot of teams. Sounds like we got a good one who can really understand the younger generation, something our olds boys club doesn't really understand.

Also I'm glad that Hunter isn't a front runner for the GM job anymore. I wonder if Jackson already has someone in mind like he did like Knoblauch. I wouldn't be surprised if it's someone that sounds like it's out of the blue at first but in retrospect is pretty obvious.
 

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Now that we can properly say that this is a cup contending team what are the chances we can keep the band together next year? Whatever Brown and Perry’s bonuses were supposed to be I’m sure they’ve kicked in full so there can’t be a lot of cap room
 

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Now that we can properly say that this is a cup contending team what are the chances we can keep the band together next year? Whatever Brown and Perry’s bonuses were supposed to be I’m sure they’ve kicked in full so there can’t be a lot of cap room

If you buyout Campbell and trade off Ceci, you get around 16M (give or take), which is enough to re-sign everyone (except Foegele and Henrique), and upgrade on a couple positions (Demelo and DeBrusk anyone?)
 
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If you buyout Campbell and trade off Ceci, you get around 16M (give or take), which is enough to re-sign everyone (except Foegele and Henrique), and upgrade on a couple positions (Demelo and DeBrusk anyone?)
Not re-signing Henrique but bringing him back at the trade deadline would be a better move. Right now with Brown bonus. I don't think we can fit him. Even Debrusk would be next to impossible to fit. He'd be looking at least 5M x 7 years

The Oilers should be targeting Buchnevich at 50% retain
 
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If you buyout Campbell and trade off Ceci, you get around 16M (give or take), which is enough to re-sign everyone (except Foegele and Henrique), and upgrade on a couple positions (Demelo and DeBrusk anyone?)
It seems like they’ll likely pencil Broberg into Kulaks normal spot on that 3rd pair too.

Holloway has already taken Foegele’s spot.

Ceci out for an upgrade to play with Nurse.

Perry retires, maybe try Lavoie there in the early parts of next season?

Wouldn’t shock me if they try and sign Brown at league minimum.

Henrique will be too expensive so he’s gone.

Wouldn’t hate keeping Carrick around at league minimum.
 

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Now that we can properly say that this is a cup contending team what are the chances we can keep the band together next year? Whatever Brown and Perry’s bonuses were supposed to be I’m sure they’ve kicked in full so there can’t be a lot of cap room
I hope brown stays cheap. I think Kulak and / or Ceci + Foegs are out. Soup will be bought out. Holloway and broberg emerging is huge.

Henrique is probably too expensive especially if we win the cup. He might take a discount to go for it again but I could see him wanting to maximize his contract considering his age.
 
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It seems like they’ll likely pencil Broberg into Kulaks normal spot on that 3rd pair too.

Holloway has already taken Foegele’s spot.

Ceci out for an upgrade to play with Nurse.

Perry retires, maybe try Lavoie there in the early parts of next season?

Wouldn’t shock me if they try and sign Brown at league minimum.

Henrique will be too expensive so he’s gone.

Wouldn’t hate keeping Carrick around at league minimum.
Kulak is the Ceci upgrade.

The Oilers most likely not adding anyone and will be expecting internal growth from McLeod, Holloway, Broberg, Lavoie, Stecher, Desharnais and ride that to the deadline and add 2 key pieces there.

Ekholm-Bouchard
Nurse-Kulak
Broberg-Desharnais
Stecher-Kemp
 
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If they intend to keep Draisaitl and McDavid as Oilers for life presumably, and sign each to max contracts, plus sign Bouchard to Nurse level money or more... They can't afford the mid 6 vets. That's just the way it will be. They need to emphasize a proper drafting and development model so the young guys push up through the system, instead of going piecemeal at the TDL and bringing in expensive vets and overpriced adds. Just the way of life going forward, again contingent on their intent to keep both Draisaitl and McDavid, plus sign Bouchard.

I've no idea about this Kalle Larsson guy they signed, but from what others have said he is definitely an out of the box pick and allegedly coveted by other teams. Glad it's not another old boy (but Coffey, much to my surprise, has worked out fantastically coaching the D core). I hated Jackson being brought on board, but maybe he actually intends to stay on past McDavid and wants to build a proper franchise. Let's see how it goes.
 
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McDoused

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It seems like they’ll likely pencil Broberg into Kulaks normal spot on that 3rd pair too.

Holloway has already taken Foegele’s spot.

Ceci out for an upgrade to play with Nurse.

Perry retires, maybe try Lavoie there in the early parts of next season?

Wouldn’t shock me if they try and sign Brown at league minimum.

Henrique will be too expensive so he’s gone.

Wouldn’t hate keeping Carrick around at league minimum.

Henrique is an interesting one. When he was asked today what it was going from Anaheim to Edmonton he really sounded like a guy who isnt chasing money. He doesn't sound like he wants to go back to golfing early in the offseason and playing meaningless games as early as January.

Teams are trying to get younger and faster and Henrique is already 34. He doesn't strike me as someone who wants to uproot his family again either with a new baby.

If Edmonton offered him 3M x 3 Years I think he would probably take it. I also think he feels some pride being traded for and being wanted enough that he cost a 1st round puck. You would have to think the Oilers thought an extension was possible when they made the deal.
 
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Mr Positive

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Now that we can properly say that this is a cup contending team what are the chances we can keep the band together next year? Whatever Brown and Perry’s bonuses were supposed to be I’m sure they’ve kicked in full so there can’t be a lot of cap room
Next year, the team will be the same. Well, the major players

The year after is the tricky one

But sure maybe someone like Brown or Perry will be gone. But, the bonuses will be canceled out by cap growth. If we move Foegele we would have room if we wanted to keep someone like Henrique, although maybe the plan is to make due with less and add at the deadline again

Plus a Campbell buyout gives us space
 

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I thought it was really interesting that Kalle was highly sought after and pursued by a lot of teams. Sounds like we got a good one who can really understand the younger generation, something our olds boys club doesn't really understand.

Also I'm glad that Hunter isn't a front runner for the GM job anymore. I wonder if Jackson already has someone in mind like he did like Knoblauch. I wouldn't be surprised if it's someone that sounds like it's out of the blue at first but in retrospect is pretty obvious.
They have to already know what they're going to do. Regardless of whether we win or lose in the SCF, this is a HUGE offseason for the Oilers. The Finals could end on June 24, which is 4 days from the draft and a week away from free agency. There's no way someone truly new can be expected to step in and manage that. Pretty much the only things that make sense are: (i) an internal candidate (e.g. Brad Holland) gets promoted to GM; (ii) Ken Holland is actually getting a 1 year extension while they look for a new person; (iii) they manage this offseason using their existing staff with Jackson calling the shots; or (iv) Jackson already someone lined up that he won't announce until the season is over, and they've quietly been laying out a game plan for the offseason.
 
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McDoused

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They have to already know what they're going to do. Regardless of whether we win or lose in the SCF, this is a HUGE offseason for the Oilers. The Finals could end on June 24, which is 4 days from the draft and a week away from free agency. There's no way someone truly new can be expected to step in and manage that. Pretty much the only things that make sense are: (i) an internal candidate (e.g. Brad Holland) gets promoted to GM; (ii) Ken Holland is actually getting a 1 year extension while they look for a new person; (iii) they manage this offseason using their existing staff with Jackson calling the shots; or (iv) Jackson already someone lined up that he won't announce until the season is over, and they've quietly been laying out a game plan for the offseason.

It sounds like whoever the new GM is, they won't impact the draft so that's something they don't have to worry about.

It would be nice if extensions for Draisaitl and Bouchard are already set aside and ready.

Really the only thing the new GM needs to do is try and re-sign the depth guys for cheap.

I think next year's offseason is actually going to be a lot harder.
 

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I think people are over estimating the crunch in 2025-26. Here is a mock roster made up of current Oilers that does not look all that different from the current team. This roster has 21 players and is sitting with just under $4M in cap space after a buyout for Campbell. If they are creative they could probably open up another $1M from the Campbell buyout.


Left WingCentreRight Wing
Kane, Evander
$5,125,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
McDavid, Connor
$12,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Hyman, Zach
$5,500,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
$5,125,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 4
Draisaitl, Leon
$13,300,000
C, LW
UFA
Holloway, Dylan
$1,300,000
LW, C
RFA
McLeod, Ryan
$2,250,000
C
RFA
Henrique, Adam
$3,000,000
LW, C
UFA
Lavoie, Raphael
$900,000
RW, C
RFA
Janmark, Mattias
$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA
Carrick, Sam
$1,000,000
C, RW
UFA
Brown, Connor
$1,200,000
RW, LW
UFA
LW5RW5
Roster created at CapFriendly.com | Follow on Twitter @CapFriendly
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Ekholm, Mattias
$6,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Bouchard, Evan
$9,000,000
RD
RFA
Skinner, Stuart
$2,600,000
G
UFA - 1
Nurse, Darnell
$9,250,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
Desharnais, Vincent
$1,200,000
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RD
UFA
Rodrigue, Olivier
$900,000
G
RFA
Broberg, Philip
$1,750,000
LD
RFA
Kulak, Brett
$2,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
G3
LD4Kemp, Philip
$870,000
 

CupofOil

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This is what I was thinking. I could see Coffey getting a view of the team from the front line this season. Then Jackson and him running the ship next season.
I wonder if they're grooming Mark Stuart to succeed Coffey as defensive coach. Hell, he even get some Head Coaching offers based on his incredible work with the PK.
I always saw Coffey as a bridge coach so it'll be interesting to see how it shakes out in the offseason.
 
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AM

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I like how we have these 'black aces' but don't use them. I'm not saying Lavoie would score instantly but the kid has two previous seasons of 25G and 28G apiece down in the farm. I think he would help push the offense + he has a shoot first mentality. I don't think the Oilers have necessarily put kids like Lavoie in a spot to fully succeed either. Look at how long it took for them to play Holloway on a fricken top 6 line. Meanwhile I see how Dallas puts young kids like Stankoven in a spot to succeed by playing him with Jamie Benn on Wyatt Johnston on the 1st line. Us? Holloway was playing on the 4th line with the likes of Ryan and Janmark for a good chunk zzzzzzz...
Yup and Dallas is playing golf now.
 

Macblender

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I don’t know, this just lists which teams can make what kind of offers.
Not many of the RFAs make a ton of sense this year either really high end or not great.

Nice to dream about the high end but we would need our second round pick back. Forwards and D below only goalie really of note is Swayman.

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Arpeggio

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If Bouchard repeats this season next year, combined with his playoff success, he's clearing 10 million easy. You sell the franchise before you let any of McDavid, Draisaitl, or Bouchard go. It might mean that you aren't able to retain depth guys you've developed for a few years while we wait for the cap to rise, but there's just no point in trying to rebuild the team without those three guys. They are the blueprint for a successful team (two elite centres, elite number one defenceman).
 

Canovin

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If Bouchard repeats this season next year, combined with his playoff success, he's clearing 10 million easy. You sell the franchise before you let any of McDavid, Draisaitl, or Bouchard go. It might mean that you aren't able to retain depth guys you've developed for a few years while we wait for the cap to rise, but there's just no point in trying to rebuild the team without those three guys. They are the blueprint for a successful team (two elite centres, elite number one defenceman).
He's eligible to be extended this offseason. Same with Drai. It'll likely be something like 9M.
Drai probably signs for 13M
 

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He's eligible to be extended this offseason. Same with Drai. It'll likely be something like 9M.
Drai probably signs for 13M
I just don't see Bouchard extending at 9 million after his first real breakout season. Do we have any reason to believe he won't put up another point per game season next year?
 

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I just don't see Bouchard extending at 9 million after his first real breakout season. Do we have any reason to believe he won't put up another point per game season next year?
Regardless of what Bouchard does next season, I think management will likely get him extended this summer. Same with Drai. 9M is what Makar is making and I think Bouchard leaves some money on the table. This isn't Nurse we are talking about lol
 
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