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[fuswald]

Wondering about people saying McDavid and Draisaitl on max contracts.
Usually second major contract is mot maxed as it has to take into account older years as well.
Nuge, Hyman fir example.
I understand Draisaitl getting more as he was a good deal but McDavid had his huge contract.

Nuge went 6 mil to 5.25 mil. Shouldn't McDavid get the same ratio about?

 

[Macblender]

I just don't see Bouchard extending at 9 million after his first real breakout season. Do we have any reason to believe he won't put up another point per game season next year?

I think you can point to Makar, Fox, Heiskanrn, Hughes in that 8-9.5 range and have a pretty good argument with the mcdrai PP effect that is in that range and not higher

 

[Arpeggio]

I think you can point to Makar, Fox, Heiskanrn, Hughes in that 8-9.5 range and have a pretty good argument with the mcdrai PP effect that is in that range and not higher

My thought is that Bouchard's camp will want to wait an extra year for the cap to rise, at which point I think he easily clears 10. But risk management was never my thing lol

 

[McDNicks17]

Any Bouchard contract is going to take into account the massive increase in the cap coming since it isn't about what's fair now, but what's fair in 4/5 years.

It's going to be more than any comparables on contracts now.

 

[timekeep]

Not many of the RFAs make a ton of sense this year either really high end or not great.

Nice to dream about the high end but we would need our second round pick back. Forwards and D below only goalie really of note is Swayman.

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There is some nice talent on that list, but I can't see us being successful. Really this hasn't happened since CAR-MON I think.

I wonder if they're grooming Mark Stuart to succeed Coffey as defensive coach. Hell, he even get some Head Coaching offers based on his incredible work with the PK.
I always saw Coffey as a bridge coach so it'll be interesting to see how it shakes out in the offseason.

I heard that Coffey is the next GM, so I could see it. Stuart deserves some credit, I hope he is the next Charlie Huddy. But we better not let him go.

 

[timekeep]

I think people are over estimating the crunch in 2025-26. Here is a mock roster made up of current Oilers that does not look all that different from the current team. This roster has 21 players and is sitting with just under $4M in cap space after a buyout for Campbell. If they are creative they could probably open up another $1M from the Campbell buyout.

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Kane, Evander $5,125,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	McDavid, Connor $12,500,000 C NMC UFA - 1	Hyman, Zach $5,500,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 3
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan $5,125,000 LW, C NMC UFA - 4	Draisaitl, Leon $13,300,000 C, LW UFA	Holloway, Dylan $1,300,000 LW, C RFA
McLeod, Ryan $2,250,000 C RFA	Henrique, Adam $3,000,000 LW, C UFA	Lavoie, Raphael $900,000 RW, C RFA
Janmark, Mattias $1,000,000 LW, RW UFA	Carrick, Sam $1,000,000 C, RW UFA	Brown, Connor $1,200,000 RW, LW UFA
LW5		RW5
Roster created at CapFriendly.com | Follow on Twitter @CapFriendly

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Ekholm, Mattias $6,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Bouchard, Evan $9,000,000 RD RFA	Skinner, Stuart $2,600,000 G UFA - 1
Nurse, Darnell $9,250,000 LD NMC UFA - 5	Desharnais, Vincent $1,200,000 RD UFA	Rodrigue, Olivier $900,000 G RFA
Broberg, Philip $1,750,000 LD RFA	Kulak, Brett $2,750,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	G3
LD4	Kemp, Philip $870,000

Fourier for GM, make it happen.

 

[K1984]

Any Bouchard contract is going to take into account the massive increase in the cap coming since it isn't about what's fair now, but what's fair in 4/5 years.

It's going to be more than any comparables on contracts now.

Unfortunately I think it will be effectively impossible to get him on an 8 year deal at an AAV that possibly works. That number could be $12 at this point.

Would probably have to do a 4 or 5 year deal to hope to get something in the high 8's or low 9's probably.

 

[McDNicks17]

Unfortunately I think it will be effectively impossible to get him on an 8 year deal at an AAV that possibly works. That number could be $12 at this point.

Would probably have to do a 4 or 5 year deal to hope to get something in the high 8's or low 9's probably.

It'll be interesting. He'll be 26 when the extension kicks in. A four year deal to take him to UFA at 30 probably wouldn't be the worst thing for him as far as money goes.

Not ideal for the team, but I think you're right about them needing to pay him a fortune on an eight year deal.

 

[Canovin]

Bouchard isn't going to wait another year to sign. He could get injured and miss out on some $$. 9M is more than fair. As another poster pointed, there's the McDrai factor.

 

[Oilers88]

It sounds like whoever the new GM is, they won't impact the draft so that's something they don't have to worry about.

It would be nice if extensions for Draisaitl and Bouchard are already set aside and ready.

Really the only thing the new GM needs to do is try and re-sign the depth guys for cheap.

I think next year's offseason is actually going to be a lot harder.

With $9.7 million to sign 9 players, I think they have to do more than that. Obviously they have to do something with Campbell (buyout or retained salary trade), and we might need to look for replacements for Foegele and Henrique. They also have to figure out what to do in goal- specifically do we roll back with Pickard as a full time backup. That is all assuming that they're fine rolling the team back as is without any improvements. With this season being the last on Draisaitl and Bouchard's contract, this is going to be our best chance for a while to take a run at the cup. Even if we win it all, there should be real pressure to try and find some improvements to get back and take another run next season.

 

[K1984]

With $9.7 million to sign 9 players, I think they have to do more than that. Obviously they have to do something with Campbell (buyout or retained salary trade), and we might need to look for replacements for Foegele and Henrique. They also have to figure out what to do in goal- specifically do we roll back with Pickard as a full time backup. That is all assuming that they're fine rolling the team back as is without any improvements. With this season being the last on Draisaitl and Bouchard's contract, this is going to be our best chance for a while to take a run at the cup. Even if we win it all, there should be real pressure to try and find some improvements to get back and take another run next season.

Whether we win it this year or not, we have to treat next season as another opportunity to empty the tank to try and win it.

The Drai/McDavid/Bouch extensions will almost certainly clip a little bit of depth for a few years, so this is our shot.

 

[McDoused]

I think people are over estimating the crunch in 2025-26. Here is a mock roster made up of current Oilers that does not look all that different from the current team. This roster has 21 players and is sitting with just under $4M in cap space after a buyout for Campbell. If they are creative they could probably open up another $1M from the Campbell buyout.

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Kane, Evander $5,125,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	McDavid, Connor $12,500,000 C NMC UFA - 1	Hyman, Zach $5,500,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 3
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan $5,125,000 LW, C NMC UFA - 4	Draisaitl, Leon $13,300,000 C, LW UFA	Holloway, Dylan $1,300,000 LW, C RFA
McLeod, Ryan $2,250,000 C RFA	Henrique, Adam $3,000,000 LW, C UFA	Lavoie, Raphael $900,000 RW, C RFA
Janmark, Mattias $1,000,000 LW, RW UFA	Carrick, Sam $1,000,000 C, RW UFA	Brown, Connor $1,200,000 RW, LW UFA
LW5		RW5
Roster created at CapFriendly.com | Follow on Twitter @CapFriendly

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Ekholm, Mattias $6,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Bouchard, Evan $9,000,000 RD RFA	Skinner, Stuart $2,600,000 G UFA - 1
Nurse, Darnell $9,250,000 LD NMC UFA - 5	Desharnais, Vincent $1,200,000 RD UFA	Rodrigue, Olivier $900,000 G RFA
Broberg, Philip $1,750,000 LD RFA	Kulak, Brett $2,750,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	G3
LD4	Kemp, Philip $870,000

I completely agree. With the cap going up and the Neal buyout / Brown bonus coming off that group costs 86.52M. The cap will likely go up another 4M meaning at least a 91M cap. That's 4.48M in space minus 2.3M from the 2nd year of Campbell buyout. 2.18M with a 21 man roster seems doable.

If it is a little tight my guess is that one of Kulak or Kane gets moved. Money shouldn't be an issue with it comes to Draisaitl and Bouchard.

 

[McDoused]

Anyone else think its weird how we are talking about offseason changes when this team is still playing hockey?

With such a tight turnaround this team already needs to have a structure and plan in place for their players before they even finish the series.

I think some pretty obvious questions have already been answered heading into next season:

1. Skinner is the guy. We aren't looking for a number one. I also don't think we can afford a true 1B backup for Skinner. I'm interested in what goalies around the league think after seeing how Pickard went from AHLer to backup. If I'm Talbot, Samsanov, Kahkonen, Lankinen, Brossoit, Nedeljkovic, DeSmith, Reimer, Raant, Stolarz, Jones, etc I'm probably calling and taking a bit of a discount. I don't see any reason to overpay the backup at this point.

2. Jack Campbell is getting bought out with a small chance he gets traded so that his dead cap is off the books permanently. I don't see a lot of teams lining up to do us an favors but that contract is coming off the books no matter what.

3. Holloway and Broberg have emerged as NHL players. They are big, strong, fast and young. We need to get younger in the off-season and these guys are going to have larger roles next season on reasonable contracts. Neither has Arb rights or the numbers to warrant large contracts. They will be key for saving money over the next couple of years.

4. Foegele scored 20 goals and someone will give him the bag he wants. We just simply can't afford to keep him if he wants anything close to what he's currently making. Holloway has made Foegele expendable to some degree.

5. Perry and Gagner are done. I would be shocked if they don't retire at the end of the season. Ryan is on the books for another year but he's probably riding in the PB most of the season or the 13th forward.

I think the real questions that come in are how much are teams willing to pay some of our depth guys that have been in and out of the lineup - Desharnais, Janmark and Brown are definitely key guys that we would want to bring back.

 

[Canovin]

Should the Oilers trade McLeod and re-sign Henrique instead?

 

[McHelpus]

The outcome of the finals will play a huge role in free agency. But one thing is for sure, I really doubt ceci is moved after making It this far.

 

[timekeep]

Anyone else think its weird how we are talking about offseason changes when this team is still playing hockey?

With such a tight turnaround this team already needs to have a structure and plan in place for their players before they even finish the series.

I think some pretty obvious questions have already been answered heading into next season:

1. Skinner is the guy. We aren't looking for a number one. I also don't think we can afford a true 1B backup for Skinner. I'm interested in what goalies around the league think after seeing how Pickard went from AHLer to backup. If I'm Talbot, Samsanov, Kahkonen, Lankinen, Brossoit, Nedeljkovic, DeSmith, Reimer, Raant, Stolarz, Jones, etc I'm probably calling and taking a bit of a discount. I don't see any reason to overpay the backup at this point.

2. Jack Campbell is getting bought out with a small chance he gets traded so that his dead cap is off the books permanently. I don't see a lot of teams lining up to do us an favors but that contract is coming off the books no matter what.

3. Holloway and Broberg have emerged as NHL players. They are big, strong, fast and young. We need to get younger in the off-season and these guys are going to have larger roles next season on reasonable contracts. Neither has Arb rights or the numbers to warrant large contracts. They will be key for saving money over the next couple of years.

4. Foegele scored 20 goals and someone will give him the bag he wants. We just simply can't afford to keep him if he wants anything close to what he's currently making. Holloway has made Foegele expendable to some degree.

5. Perry and Gagner are done. I would be shocked if they don't retire at the end of the season. Ryan is on the books for another year but he's probably riding in the PB most of the season or the 13th forward.

I think the real questions that come in are how much are teams willing to pay some of our depth guys that have been in and out of the lineup - Desharnais, Janmark and Brown are definitely key guys that we would want to bring back.

I did too, but the NHL likes this huge gap in between games.

 

[VainGretzky]

Oilers win the cup the cap factor will be a lot less worrisome, many players will take discounts in the Fa to get a chance at a cup, and many solid players will sign for a million to get that chance

 

[belair]

Should the Oilers trade McLeod and re-sign Henrique instead?

Unless Henrique is willing to take a ridiculous underpaid role, he's a pure rental. There are a lot of teams who'd be willing to give him some term. One being New Jersey.

 

[Joey Moss]

Should the Oilers trade McLeod and re-sign Henrique instead?

They should keep McLeod and re-sign Henrique.

Foegele is walking, his money goes to Henrique IMO.

 

[Joey Moss]

Unless Henrique is willing to take a ridiculous underpaid role, he's a pure rental. There are a lot of teams who'd be willing to give him some term. One being New Jersey.

What are you expecting Henrique to get? He's coming off of a contract he signed in his mid 20's. I would guess he signs something like 3 years x 3M/3.5M per season.

 

[brentashton]

They should keep McLeod and re-sign Henrique.

Foegele is walking, his money goes to Henrique IMO.

Yes, sign him, you can work with McLeod. Dump Henrique And Foegle… too costly.

 

[alphahelix]

I think people are over estimating the crunch in 2025-26. Here is a mock roster made up of current Oilers that does not look all that different from the current team. This roster has 21 players and is sitting with just under $4M in cap space after a buyout for Campbell. If they are creative they could probably open up another $1M from the Campbell buyout.

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Kane, Evander $5,125,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	McDavid, Connor $12,500,000 C NMC UFA - 1	Hyman, Zach $5,500,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 3
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan $5,125,000 LW, C NMC UFA - 4	Draisaitl, Leon $13,300,000 C, LW UFA	Holloway, Dylan $1,300,000 LW, C RFA
McLeod, Ryan $2,250,000 C RFA	Henrique, Adam $3,000,000 LW, C UFA	Lavoie, Raphael $900,000 RW, C RFA
Janmark, Mattias $1,000,000 LW, RW UFA	Carrick, Sam $1,000,000 C, RW UFA	Brown, Connor $1,200,000 RW, LW UFA
LW5		RW5
Roster created at CapFriendly.com | Follow on Twitter @CapFriendly

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Ekholm, Mattias $6,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Bouchard, Evan $9,000,000 RD RFA	Skinner, Stuart $2,600,000 G UFA - 1
Nurse, Darnell $9,250,000 LD NMC UFA - 5	Desharnais, Vincent $1,200,000 RD UFA	Rodrigue, Olivier $900,000 G RFA
Broberg, Philip $1,750,000 LD RFA	Kulak, Brett $2,750,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	G3
LD4	Kemp, Philip $870,000

I think Evan Bouchard is plausibly in the 12-13M range right now with room to grow over the coming weeks.

 

[Joey Moss]

I think Evan Bouchard is plausibly in the 12-13M range right now with room to grow over the coming weeks.

Why would Bouchard be making 13M when Hughes and Makar make around 8? I know they signed in 2021, but this is an insane number to suggest.

 

[McDNicks17]

Why would Bouchard be making 13M when Hughes and Makar make around 8? I know they signed in 2021, but this is an insane number to suggest.

The big difference in those guys didn't get bridged(or forced to sit out an entire year of their ELC). Both of them are going to be up for UFA at 27 years old and able to make absolute bank on their next contract.

Bouchard's next contract will kick in when he's 26 years old. That deal is basically going to be his only shot at making big money. His agent is going to be pushing for the same kind of retirement deal that Hughes/Makar are going to be looking for in a few years.

 

[Heavy Dee]

Should the Oilers trade McLeod and re-sign Henrique instead?

I think McLeod gets traded for sure.