Rumor: Rumours and Proposals Thread | Breaking The (Bank On) Hyman?

[KlefDown]

Kenny presser at 11am. Time for more memes

 

[TheMustardTiger]

I miss Jason Smith in particular … but yes, a Smytty version 2.0 is what I am hoping Hyman can be.

I assume a lot of people posting on this site never watched Smyth, or Smith, or any of the warriors this team had. A few of those types would go a long way on this team.

Definitely a couple type of those players would go a long way to helping this team. Really enjoyed the days of watching Weight, Captain Canada and Gator playing. They gave it to the opposing teams and I remember in interviews back in the day how players said they hated playing against the Oilers as they would be feeling it for days. I have to say the Hall, Nuge, Eberle, Yakapov, Shultz years were truly the most difficult to watch in the 35 years of being a fan.

 

[OfCorsiDid]

Since Oilers literally cost me my sleep last night, it got me thinking that losing Larsson was inevitable, even if he was under contract/signed a new one with us. Especially with the Keith acq. being made so early.

4/4/1 route - Connor, Leon, Jessie, Nuge, Nurse, Keith, Bear, Lars, Skinner = Lose Yamamoto?
7/3/1 route - Same forwards, Nurse, Keith, Lars, = lose Bear for nothing?

Like could we not have gotten Keith after UFA or something.

I think Larsson made up his mind a lot earlier than has been reported. That's at least the way I'm rationalizing it.

 

[Mcnotloilersfan]

Hamilton isn't going to come here so forget it.

Source?

 

[North Cole]

I know a lot of people hate me already this morning, BUT

If Edmonton got Hamilton, and locked Nurse in. You have a legit #1 dman on either side. And say you have a solid vet line dup for the bottom pair... would you be willing to move Bouch to a rebuilding team who would take both Neal and Koski?

Honestly, in that situation, rather just buyout Neal and package Bouch with Kosk (more if needed) for a good player. If we are trading Bouch then it needs to be Bouch+Kosk+X to Ana for Gibson or something similar, not really sure where else Bouch can go that we get decent return and there's no way it's worth it to package him with cap dumps just to save some cap. If you're just sending cap dumps, do it with picks instead of a player we have developed and who is close to the NHL. Anaheim likely doesn't care about running Koskinen out since they won't be making the playoffs anyways, and it's one year, the add would be decent for Gibson probably, but who knows with goalies.

Nurse - Hamilton
Keith - Bear
Kulikov - X
Gibson

Seems pretty legit. No way Holland is capable of something like this though, not many GMs probably would be - this is NHL 21 GM mode type trading.

 

[Soundwave]

Kenny presser at 11am. Time for more memes

Looking forward to 30 minutes of incoherent rambling with a lot of eye squinting.

I'm sure we'll get the modern version of Chiarelli's classic "it's the price you have to pay!" schtick too.

 

[Kaptah2]

This is just another strong hint that there's something wrong with Oilers leadership group.

 

[TheNumber4]

Perhaps because 'we' didn't have a net front presence like Hyman … add a player skilled at a certain aspect of the game, and likely the way the team plays will change accordingly. For example, adding Barrie last year added a bomb from the blueline, which the Oilers were not doing nearly as much in seasons previous.

I don't see that. One player inserted into the line up changing our offensive style. Even if it was the case, I don't necessarily think that would be a good thing. Were a high quality shot team right now, with McDrai and others seemingly preferring to forgo lower percentage shots to net, and instead pass it around looking for more of sure thing. It's worked well for their production no matter how many fans want to yell at the to "JUST SHOOT IT!".

Bombs from the blue line were more effective with Barrie last year, I agree. But even since the days of TMac who brought his Burns-feeding type offense to the Oilers we definitely tried a lot for blue line shots and generating offence from our D. We just never had the horses until Barrie came along, Nurse took a step, and now the eventual emergence of the Bouchbomb.

 

[Jumptheshark]

The killer may not be the contract but what have we given up

 

[bucks_oil]

Uh, what?

Is Hyman the solution in a vacuum? No. But if other moves are made to shore up the bottom 6 and the D then, well, maybe.

The fact is we have to "win now". We cannot wait. We have 3 years, MAX to show some serious movement, and what I mean by that is as a minimum, a conference finals appearance.

Although I'm by no means a fan of Hyman's prospective contract, the fact is we have to do SOMETHING. There's no guarantee that if we pass on Hyman that we're able to attract a Saad or a Tatar come the 28th. There's a real chance we'd be forced to throw a rookie beside McDavid and hope it works.

At this point, we have a player that's keen to come to Edmonton and is an improvement on what we have. Are we paying through the nose? Absolutely. But the level of security he can bring to the team's offseason could be quite valuable.

Exactly this. Many fans wanted Holland to go all in at the deadline. Those against it argued we had to save assets, preserve cap space and then go all in this summer. Both sides agreed that was also true... there were no excuses for not improving the team this summer.

This deal is part of that.

Holland does not care what happens in years 5, 6, 7 of the Hyman/Nuge contracts. McDavid and Draisaitl will be 29 and 30 then (if even still playing for us). We have to win NOW. NOW not in three years.

Holland is deliberately sacrificing future for present.

We still have work to do, but right now this is how we shape up.... the top six is finally solid. Big gaps remain.

Hyman McD Pulju
RNH Drai Yama
Holoway AAA Kassian
Shore Khaira/McLeod Archibald
Khaira/McLeod
Darkhorses: Benson, Lavoie, Savoie, etc

Nurse BBB
Keith Bear
Russell Bouchard
Lagesson

CCC
Smith

Assuming Yamamoto comes back at $2M, we'll only have about $10M for those three empty spots assuming that Neal and Koskinen are bought out. That's pretty tough. We're going to have to get creative (rumored Kassian deal, rumored Neal on LTIR, find someone to take Koskinen)...

The hard work is ahead.

 

[McOvechking]

This is just another strong hint that there's something wrong with Oilers leadership group.

Care to elaborate?

 

[space321]

Looking forward to 30 minutes of incoherent rambling with a lot of eye squinting.

I'm sure we'll get the modern version of Chiarelli's classic "it's the price you have to pay!" schtick too.

"We were prepared to overpay, but we got our guy!"

 

[AddyTheWrath]

 

[Soundwave]

This is just another strong hint that there's something wrong with Oilers leadership group.

Yeah there's something wrong with it, the management is too stupid to figure out how to get any help for them without overpaying out the ass.

 

[3IR]

This is just another strong hint that there's something wrong with Oilers leadership group.

In what way?

Besides that, even if there was an issue with the leadership group, guys like Keith, Smith, and even Hyman could be potential moves forward in helping with that.

 

[KlefDown]

I think Larsson made up his mind a lot earlier than has been reported. That's at least the way I'm rationalizing it.

yeah seems that way, I hope for Holland's sake he knew he was leaving before we got Keith.

I feel a bit more ok knowing Seattle took him in an expansion draft so Oilers could protect Yams and Bear rather than he left in UFA.

 

[McDrai]

Kenny presser at 11am. Time for more memes

Oh goodie, some more content

 

[FunkyChicken]

Kenny presser at 11am. Time for more memes

Let's hope he has some new props to explain his trades and signings.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I mean get all of them, but I suspect only 2 of them, as the Kraken are interested in Strome.

 

[TheNumber4]

All I remember you saying is that he’s a 3rd line grinder player who can easily be had for $1.5M. Sorry if I’m remembering wrong, it was pretty late.

I thought maybe you would add something about his game that you don’t like since you’re now saying you’re not a fan of the player.

To say he’s not your idea linemate for Connor is one thing, or to dislike his potential contract is another thing. Guess I just don’t see how someone couldn’t be a fan of how Hyman plays is all.

Just assume when I say Player that the contract goes with that. I assume its going to talk about the non-existant contract now right? Lol. But seriously, I went into a couple days ago in the Hyman thread. Repeating myself ad nauseum is getting tiring, if you truly want to know where I'm coming from check the Hyman thread. And no that's not what I said last night. Again, check Hyman thread for a more sober assessment of what I think of Hyman.

 

[Paralyzer]

Georgiev would be a great pickup. Try to make a package deal for Buchnevich and Georgiev and we got our top 6 and goalie set.

 

[FunkyChicken]

I think Larsson made up his mind a lot earlier than has been reported. That's at least the way I'm rationalizing it.

Isn't rationalizing what you do to protect your mind from the truth?

 

[Canovin]

Hyman-McDavid-Buchnevich

McDavid still needs a skilled player to play with in addition to a grinder like Hyman

 

[Kaptah2]

In what way?

Besides that, even if there was an issue with the leadership group, guys like Keith, Smith, and even Hyman could be potential moves forward in helping with that.

I'm sure that's why Keith was acquired. Hope leadership gets fixed before Pulju needs a new contract.

 

[Faelko]

I don't know but I was hoping for something a little more awe-inspiring. Allen is a career backup and Jarry's playoff performances have me concerned.

I’m with you, my biggest worry is they won’t get a legit #1.