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oXo Cube said:
I look forward to not having 'physical players' that don't do anything except take penalties and get scored on.

Kostin supporters are basically mad that we didn't Kassian him.



Since we moved on the guy can't even stick as a regular player on the worst team in the NHL.
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Indeed. Man that contract was a headscratcher to put it nicely.
 
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Jimmi McJenkins said:
I think management got fooled into remember draft position and thinking he had finally "developed" into that Tom Wilson-esq player...and he had not. This is Holland who we're talking about
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Kassian went on a heater playing next to McDavid but was starting to tail off around when his contract was signed.

Never, ever sign depth players to term. I don't know what Holland was thinking.
 
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oXo Cube said:
I look forward to not having 'physical players' that don't do anything except take penalties and get scored on.

Kostin supporters are basically mad that we didn't Kassian him.



Since we moved on the guy can't even stick as a regular player on the worst team in the NHL.
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He also chipped in some goals and played physical hockey. Do you think that Zadorov and crew would've gotten away with as many liberties as they did with Kostin and a healthy Kane? He was a good fit here, things may have been different for him had he stayed.
Jimmi McJenkins said:
I mean that, and he wasn't that good at all around hockey. I love Kostin too, but the team is much better with more well rounded players.

Like Corey Perry in the same role as Kostin is LIGHTYEARS better and team is MUCH better for it.
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Perry is great for now but his body broke down and he was invisible in the playoffs last season.
 
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Bryanbryoil said:
He also chipped in some goals and played physical hockey. Do you think that Zadorov and crew would've gotten away with as many liberties as they did with Kostin and a healthy Kane? He was a good fit here, things may have been different for him had he stayed.

Perry is great for now but his body broke down and he was invisible in the playoffs last season.
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Yes I absolutely think Zadorov would not have given a single shit about the Oilers having Klim Kostin.

Again, you're advocating for what would have been an albatross contract to a bit player because he got hot for a few games at the right time. It's Kassian 2.0.
 
One guy that I haven't seen mentioned a lot that could be on the block is Pavel Buchnevich.

I believe we were rumored to be on him before he signed his extension last year. I believe it was rumored to involved Broberg and Holloway at the time. It makes sense given that they just waited to offer sheet both of them instead.

Buchnevich is still in his final year of his contract, with his new contract kicking in July 1st. His current contract only has 12 team NTC and is at a more affordable 5.8M contract. However, the extension has a full NTC for 4 years and then goes down to 20 teams in Y5 and 15 teams in the final year.

It might make sense for the blues to move him now if they aren't ready to commit to him until he's 36. His production has dropped since last year with only 11 goals and 34 points in 54 games. The blues were probably expecting his production to go up and be a consistent 70+ point player, not drop down to a 52 point pace.
 
oXo Cube said:
Yes I absolutely think Zadorov would not have given a single shit about the Oilers having Klim Kostin.

Again, you're advocating for what would have been an albatross contract to a bit player because he got hot for a few games at the right time. It's Kassian 2.0.
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Zadorov would've had to answer to him and better yet, Klim would've given their top players the same kind of rough ride that ours were given.
 
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oXo Cube said:
Yes I absolutely think Zadorov would not have given a single shit about the Oilers having Klim Kostin.

Again, you're advocating for what would have been an albatross contract to a bit player because he got hot for a few games at the right time. It's Kassian 2.0.
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If the cost was peanuts I’d have no problem with a 26 year old Kassian on this squad. Kostin scored at a higher rate than Kassian from the bottom 6 than Kassian ever did too. Kassian needed to be stapled to McDavid to produce anything, Kostin got virtually no time with McDavid.
 
McDoused said:
One guy that I haven't seen mentioned a lot that could be on the block is Pavel Buchnevich.

I believe we were rumored to be on him before he signed his extension last year. I believe it was rumored to involved Broberg and Holloway at the time. It makes sense given that they just waited to offer sheet both of them instead.

Buchnevich is still in his final year of his contract, with his new contract kicking in July 1st. His current contract only has 12 team NTC and is at a more affordable 5.8M contract. However, the extension has a full NTC for 4 years and then goes down to 20 teams in Y5 and 15 teams in the final year.

It might make sense for the blues to move him now if they aren't ready to commit to him until he's 36. His production has dropped since last year with only 11 goals and 34 points in 54 games. The blues were probably expecting his production to go up and be a consistent 70+ point player, not drop down to a 52 point pace.
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I think this ship has sailed for the Oilers.
 
Soundwave said:
If the cost was peanuts I’d have no problem with a 26 year old Kassian on this squad. Kostin scored at a higher rate than Kassian from the bottom 6 than Kassian ever did too. Kassian needed to be stapled to McDavid to produce anything, Kostin got virtually no time with McDavid.
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OK but we know the cost and that it wasn't peanuts.

Kassian didn't produce without McDavid but Kostin doesn't produce at all. It's like none of you have followed his career since he left Edmonton.
 
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TopShelfGloveSide said:
Eh kostin was still a pine rider.
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Sure if you ignore like actual reality that happened. Game winning goal in game 2 when LA was threatening to go up 2-0 in the series, then 2 goals in the series clinching 5-4 win in game 6.

Take that away and it's entirely probable the Oilers lose the series outright.

Kostin was one of the guys that bailed Stinky Skinner in net out big time, he was doing everything he could to give LA the win.
 
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KeithIsActuallyBad said:
Four years later and we're still struggling on the wings.

I don't disagree with having Kassian, but the extension he signed was a mistake. One or two years would've been fine.
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Still night and day difference between then and now.

Kassian wouldn’t have signed for 1 or 2 years. Again it’s easy to say let him walk but he was one of our only NHL level wingers.

Soundwave said:
Sure if you ignore like actual reality that happened. Game winning goal in game 2 when LA was threatening to go up 2-0 in the series, then 2 goals in the series clinching 5-4 win in game 6.

Take that away and it's entirely probable the Oilers lose the series outright.
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Lol the only one ignoring reality is you. He had a couple nice goals in the playoffs… that has nothing to do with him being a pine rider. Or do you forget the 3 minutes a night games he played on that same playoff run?
 
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oXo Cube said:
OK but we know the cost and that it wasn't peanuts.

Kassian didn't produce without McDavid but Kostin doesn't produce at all. It's like none of you have followed his career since he left Edmonton.
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We could get him now for peanuts. Some role players just perform better in certain settings, there's no sense in trying to rocket science it.

Patrick Maroon scored at a near 30 goal rate here with no PP time, elsewhere he's about a 9-10 goal guy. When it works, it works.

For a team that's had whiff after whiff on the forward front (Lucic and Strome and Athansiou and Connor Brown 4 mill bonus and Jeff Skinner and Vitkor Arvidsson on top of drafting nothing duds like Yamamoto and Puljujarvi), I'm just saying it probably isn't the worst idea in the world to bring back one of the few forward adds who actually clicked here and really likes the city apparently if the cost is very little to bring him back.

Evander Kane is almost definitely not in the long term plans here, his cap hit is too high even if he comes back from all these injuries. We don't have anyone in our pipeline that plays a physical game. Kostin would be a welcome add for a low cost.
 
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