Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | With Klingberg in the Mix Who Are Our 7D After the Deadline?

[McTonyBrar]

DNB with some news

- Oilers on the search for a top 9 winger and also may call up Savoie soon to see what he’s got
- ⁠Kane won’t be back until regular season ends
- ⁠Oilers are going to wait and see on how Klingberg performs before they go for a big move on defence
- ⁠Regula is nearly ready to go
- ⁠Philp will have until deadline to prove he can play 4C
- ⁠if Philp is not ready, DNB states we may look at Bjugstad and Jake Evans

 

[McTonyBrar]

I think, if Klingberg is not our "Ekholm add", we will be on the search. I believe the team will go all in but they didn't expect us to have small issues only (I know goaltending is one though)

 

[VeteranPresence]

DNB with some news

- Oilers on the search for a top 9 winger and also may call up Savoie soon to see what he’s got
- ⁠Kane won’t be back until regular season ends
- ⁠Oilers are going to wait and see on how Klingberg performs before they go for a big move on defence
- ⁠Regula is nearly ready to go
- ⁠Philp will have until deadline to prove he can play 4C
- ⁠if Philp is not ready, DNB states we may look at Bjugstad and Jake Evans

To be expected. These geniuses are going to put all their chips on a guy who just had major surgery (and wasn't great defensively even when healthy) so they don't have to part with futures that won't make an impact for 3+ years, only to miss out on more players who can help today. Why do we always end up with such donkeys in management?

 

[McTonyBrar]

To be expected. These geniuses are going to put all their chips on a guy who just had major surgery (and wasn't great defensively even when healthy) so they don't have to part with futures that won't make an impact for 3+ years, only to miss out on more players who can help today. Why do we always end up with such donkeys in management?

Man read the whole statement. If he doesn't work, they will look for another top 4 defender. Imagine if Klingberg works. That's a bargain plus we can use our assets to gain a great top 9 winger.

 

[OilerTyler]

To be expected. These geniuses are going to put all their chips on a guy who just had major surgery (and wasn't great defensively even when healthy) so they don't have to part with futures that won't make an impact for 3+ years, only to miss out on more players who can help today. Why do we always end up with such donkeys in management?

Nothing in that post said the Oilers have closed the window on making another move at D. Relax.

 

[AddyTheWrath]

DNB with some news

- Oilers on the search for a top 9 winger and also may call up Savoie soon to see what he’s got
- ⁠Kane won’t be back until regular season ends
- ⁠Oilers are going to wait and see on how Klingberg performs before they go for a big move on defence
- ⁠Regula is nearly ready to go
- ⁠Philp will have until deadline to prove he can play 4C
- ⁠if Philp is not ready, DNB states we may look at Bjugstad and Jake Evans

He never said this. He said that he "likely" won't be back and that the Oilers still don't know but will get a better idea later in Feb or March.

Do you have a PhD in misquoting?

 

[VeteranPresence]

Man read the whole statement. If he doesn't work, they will look for another top 4 defender. Imagine if Klingberg works. That's a bargain plus we can use our assets to gain a great top 9 winger.

That would be fine if we were the only team looking for D. We’re not. Wasting time trying out yet another bargain bin find is exactly that, wasting time. We know what the team needs and we have the assets to go and get that kind of player, but yet here we are. Pettersson, Provorov and that mythical Ekholm level D could all be gone by the time we finish “evaluating” Klingberg.

It makes me wonder how badly Bowman’s rep is tarnished with his fellow GMs after what happened in Chicago. Are waivers claims, cap dumps and players who could end up on waivers all Stan can manage because that’s the only business his peers want to do with someone who helped aid in a SA coverup? Makes you think.

 

[jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

DNB with some news

- Oilers on the search for a top 9 winger and also may call up Savoie soon to see what he’s got
- ⁠Kane won’t be back until regular season ends
- ⁠Oilers are going to wait and see on how Klingberg performs before they go for a big move on defence
- ⁠Regula is nearly ready to go
- ⁠Philp will have until deadline to prove he can play 4C
- ⁠if Philp is not ready, DNB states we may look at Bjugstad and Jake Evans

Disappointed in that oilers should not be complacent

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Interesting that we're considering giving Savoie a shot. If we do hopefully he gets a look in the top 6.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Disappointed in that oilers should not be complacent

The fact that goaltending is never mentioned is a concern IMO.

 

[ConnorNova0929]

The fact that goaltending is never mentioned is a concern IMO.

Hopefully that's a smokescreen

 

[McShogun99]

To be expected. These geniuses are going to put all their chips on a guy who just had major surgery (and wasn't great defensively even when healthy) so they don't have to part with futures that won't make an impact for 3+ years, only to miss out on more players who can help today. Why do we always end up with such donkeys in management?

Nurse seems to work best with that style of player. Bear, Barrie and Stecher. Klingberg at his peak was much better than any of those 3. It’s worth a gamble since there isn’t much that might shake loose by the deadline.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Hopefully that's a smokescreen

Maybe with Stu's issues it's best to keep stuff like that quiet and then when the opening presents itself, boom!

 

[McShogun99]

That would be fine if we were the only team looking for D. We’re not. Wasting time trying out yet another bargain bin find is exactly that, wasting time. We know what the team needs and we have the assets to go and get that kind of player, but yet here we are. Pettersson, Provorov and that mythical Ekholm level D could all be gone by the time we finish “evaluating” Klingberg.

It makes me wonder how badly Bowman’s rep is tarnished with his fellow GMs after what happened in Chicago. Are waivers claims, cap dumps and players who could end up on waivers all Stan can manage because that’s the only business his peers want to do with someone who helped aid in a SA coverup? Makes you think.

I doubt his reputation is even slightly tarnished with other GM’s. It was a different time when Chicago was going on their run and any GM/player would have prioritized trying to win a cup over anything else.

 

[Fourier]

That would be fine if we were the only team looking for D. We’re not. Wasting time trying out yet another bargain bin find is exactly that, wasting time. We know what the team needs and we have the assets to go and get that kind of player, but yet here we are. Pettersson, Provorov and that mythical Ekholm level D could all be gone by the time we finish “evaluating” Klingberg.

It makes me wonder how badly Bowman’s rep is tarnished with his fellow GMs after what happened in Chicago. Are waivers claims, cap dumps and players who could end up on waivers all Stan can manage because that’s the only business his peers want to do with someone who helped aid in a SA coverup? Makes you think.

Right now there are 6 teams more than 6 points out of a playoff spot: Buffalo, SJ, Chicago, Anaheim, Nashville, and Seattle. And only 8 teams more than 4 points out. With almost half a season left 6 points is not an insurmountable deficit. Teams in the hunt are not nearly as likely to move an impact defender as those that are almost for sure on the outside looking in. And those that will will be looking for significant returns. A month from now the number of teams willing to make moves may well be significantly more and fewer teams may be willing to spend.

The Oilers got Ekholm on Feb 28 2023. The deadline that year was March 3rd.

 

[bobbythebrain]

When you see Colorado lose 3-1 and Necas is a -3

 

[ManOfSteelI]

DNB with some news

- Oilers on the search for a top 9 winger and also may call up Savoie soon to see what he’s got
- ⁠Kane won’t be back until regular season ends
- ⁠Oilers are going to wait and see on how Klingberg performs before they go for a big move on defence
- ⁠Regula is nearly ready to go
- ⁠Philp will have until deadline to prove he can play 4C
- ⁠if Philp is not ready, DNB states we may look at Bjugstad and Jake Evans

I've gotta say, I don't like either of these targets. Bjugstad did not impress with us last time around, he plays a pretty soft game for a big man.

Someone like Noah Cates would be a much better target.

 

[foshizzle]

You mean Carolina? You don't generally see teams eating large amounts of salary like that, especially with term. Karlsson is owed a $6m bonus next season. That's actual money.

Then you need to acknowledge that he's also a player who has trade value. He's a contributing player.

Getting a third party to eat half of Karlsson's contract would require multiple first rounders plus.

I don’t think it’ll cost anywhere near multiple first rounders +. Nowhere close. The 6M bonus would be paid by the acquiring team- so if he is on the Oilers at that time- Oilers pay. So let’s take that out of the equation. In fact, it would lower the price as the team that gives him up (Pitts) gets rid of the salary, gets out of paying the bonus. A team like Chicago will need money salary to get to the new cap floor. This way they add 5M for the cost of 3.9 and 3.1. You are way overvaluing the market. What’s the cost for Chicago to eat salary? Maybe a first and mid round pick? Pittsburgh wins because they dump salary. I never understand when folks say we’ll have to add assets to our trades to dump salary (Skinner) but other teams we have to add to help them get rid of salary.

 

[jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

When you see Colorado lose 3-1 and Necas is a -3

Necas is a one year wonder scoring wise imo

 

[foshizzle]

Right now there are 6 teams more than 6 points out of a playoff spot: Buffalo, SJ, Chicago, Anaheim, Nashville, and Seattle. And only 8 teams more than 4 points out. With almost half a season left 6 points is not an insurmountable deficit. Teams in the hunt are not nearly as likely to move an impact defender as those that are almost for sure on the outside looking in. And those that will will be looking for significant returns. A month from now the number of teams willing to make moves may well be significantly more and fewer teams may be willing to spend.

The Oilers got Ekholm on Feb 28 2023. The deadline that year was March 3rd.

It’s not only being how many points you are out- it’s how many teams you have to leap frog. As a team 6 points out has to rely on all the teams ahead of them falling out. 6 points may not seem like a lot- but it is

I think, if Klingberg is not our "Ekholm add", we will be on the search. I believe the team will go all in but they didn't expect us to have small issues only (I know goaltending is one though)

Goaltending is a huge issue though

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Necas is a one year wonder scoring wise imo

I mean everything has been a whirlwind for him too. Good player but his inconsistency over the years has killed many a hockey pools.

 

[foshizzle]

That would be fine if we were the only team looking for D. We’re not. Wasting time trying out yet another bargain bin find is exactly that, wasting time. We know what the team needs and we have the assets to go and get that kind of player, but yet here we are. Pettersson, Provorov and that mythical Ekholm level D could all be gone by the time we finish “evaluating” Klingberg.

It makes me wonder how badly Bowman’s rep is tarnished with his fellow GMs after what happened in Chicago. Are waivers claims, cap dumps and players who could end up on waivers all Stan can manage because that’s the only business his peers want to do with someone who helped aid in a SA coverup? Makes you think.

This team always, always does this. Last year, Servalli said the Henrique deal was on the table a month before it happened. He didn’t understand why the oilers didn’t make the deal then, test drive Henrique to see if they needed any more changes. They didn’t, and Lo and behold, they had to settle for an injured Stetcher on defence because all d men were off the board.

I totally am with you on this

I've gotta say, I don't like either of these targets. Bjugstad did not impress with us last time around, he plays a pretty soft game for a big man.

Someone like Noah Cates would be a much better target.

Not a fan of Bjugstad either. It would be a waste of assets to have him on the fourth line.

 

[BlackDogg]

What a terrible defensive play there

 

[Shathar]

totally off topic, but Tyler Benson without a point for Ornskoldsvik while leading the team in PIM. Am not sure what made me look, but I did. WTF happened to that guy.

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[belair]

I don’t think it’ll cost anywhere near multiple first rounders +. Nowhere close. The 6M bonus would be paid by the acquiring team- so if he is on the Oilers at that time- Oilers pay. So let’s take that out of the equation. In fact, it would lower the price as the team that gives him up (Pitts) gets rid of the salary, gets out of paying the bonus. A team like Chicago will need money salary to get to the new cap floor. This way they add 5M for the cost of 3.9 and 3.1. You are way overvaluing the market. What’s the cost for Chicago to eat salary? Maybe a first and mid round pick? Pittsburgh wins because they dump salary. I never understand when folks say we’ll have to add assets to our trades to dump salary (Skinner) but other teams we have to add to help them get rid of salary.

I'm not sure where you're getting your $3.9m and $3.1m figures from, because Karlsson's cap hit is currently $10m. Half of that is $5m.

And in real cash, there may not be a lot left on his deal this year--about $1.5m--but next season he's owed $7.5m. $6m of which is owed in bonuses. And no, I don't believe you're correct. Chicago would be paying half of that bonus if the rule is consistent. @Fourier might be able to weigh in.

Chicago alone would ask for a significant return just for multiple years of retention. Then you're paying Pittsburgh for the former Norris winning defenseman. It would absolutely run you two 1st rounders minimum.