Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Where's the Beef?

[TheSuperElite]

What Broberg ends up as remains to be seen, but the real unforced error was giving away Kesselring. Right shot NHL 2nd pair Dman who’s been in Arizona/Utah’s lineup since the day we traded him for Bujugstad. And all the AHL reporters/scouts hated that trade from day 1 because they said he was our most NHL ready defensive prospect at the time.

Forgot about him.. Goddamn dude.. everything hurts

 

[CupofOil]

Seeing McLeod score a goal in 3 straight games and Broberg with a point in his first 6 games with St. Louis playing 21+ minutes last night while the Oilers bumble their way out of the gate is not fun I must admit. Broberg was always the player I felt a real loss with this offseason, the others are fairly inconsequential, but seeing him blossom into a top 4 Dman elsewhere for the next however many years is gonna be rough.

 

[brentashton]

All the Oilers had to do was ship f***ing Kulak out. Then the money and the roster spot are both available for Broberg. All management needed to do was be remotely f***ing competent and a little f***ing proactive. f***ING KULAK. Think about that. I certainly did, for f***ing years on end. f*** Kulak. f*** Kulak fans.

Who wins the Norris first, Bouchard or Broberg. This place is a nightmare. A literal nightmare.

We gave up on a potential top pairing defenceman for a second rounder and the continued mediocrity from Brett f***ing Kulak.

Kesselring will never be a Broberg level player but he would have been an excellent partner for Broberg... imagine the size and speed of that pairing.

Oilers had everything in place for a dynasty, not just one cup. A f***ING DYNASTY.

f*** Chiarelli. f*** Holland. f*** Jackson. f*** Bowman. f*** this fake ass league.

f*** gang gang, these are subversive bastards. I hope all non-gang gang can see that now.

You need to put 10 bucks in the swear jar.

 

[harpoon]

You need to put 10 bucks in the swear jar.

He needs to get ahold of himself. It’s embarrassing.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Seeing McLeod score a goal in 3 straight games and Broberg with a point in his first 6 games with St. Louis playing 21+ minutes last night while the Oilers bumble their way out of the gate is not fun I must admit. Broberg was always the player I felt a real loss with this offseason, the others are fairly inconsequential, but seeing him blossom into a top 4 Dman elsewhere for the next however many years is gonna be rough.

Not fun but not unexpected either. Seeing Kesselring do well is just another knife in the gut. Ken Holland masterclass.

 

[Broberg Speed]

He needs to get ahold of himself. It’s embarrassing.

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[McDNicks17]

What Broberg ends up as remains to be seen, but the real unforced error was giving away Kesselring. Right shot NHL 2nd pair Dman who’s been in Arizona/Utah’s lineup since the day we traded him for Bujugstad. And all the AHL reporters/scouts hated that trade from day 1 because they said he was our most NHL ready defensive prospect at the time.

That one never made sense to me. He showed well at a bunch of camps, was doing really well in the AHL and looked like he was ready for a call-up.

That's not the type of prospect you add into a deal as a throw-in. That should have been some U20 prospect in junior or a guy struggling in the AHL.

 

[McDrai]

Seeing McLeod score a goal in 3 straight games and Broberg with a point in his first 6 games with St. Louis playing 21+ minutes last night while the Oilers bumble their way out of the gate is not fun I must admit. Broberg was always the player I felt a real loss with this offseason, the others are fairly inconsequential, but seeing him blossom into a top 4 Dman elsewhere for the next however many years is gonna be rough.

It’s tough for sure. The Oilers have squandered many young valuable assets while getting older and worse. The key to building and maintaining a Championship roster is to identify a core group of players who can provide elite play (which we have done but unfortunately overpaid to high heaven). Supplement that with a mix of vets AS well as some spots for younger players to prove themselves. Giving young players a few minutes per night before press boxing and sending down to the farm isn’t going to do anything for their development. The Oilers are one of the worst teams in this regard.

 

[Heavy Dee]

Not fun but not unexpected either. Seeing Kesselring do well is just another knife in the gut. Ken Holland masterclass.

Holland would have got Broberg and Holloway signed.

We were a period away from a cup and Jackson blew it up.

 

[McDNicks17]

Holland would have got Broberg and Holloway signed.

We were a period away from a cup and Jackson blew it up.

Holland was the reason Broberg demanded a trade and never rescinded that trade request.

 

[McAsuno]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1848014682629591358

https://x.com/i/web/status/1848015078622159076

https://x.com/i/web/status/1848015956397666498

Oilers process is good; top 10 defence even. It's the goaltending, finishing and special teams that are killing them. They are getting PDOd some kind of miserably. The finishing and Special Teams in particular can improve a ton. Still think we would be doing better if our goalies weren't playing so poorly.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

You need to put 10 bucks in the swear jar.

Inflation sucks.

 

[Kolja]

I feel like Broberg saw the Oilers make room for Bouchard by trading Barrie and felt like they should have done the same with him.

The thing is Bouchard showed he had the ability to take over the offense from the back end which made Barrie expendable.

Broberg didn’t show an ability to replace any of our LD.

Such a classic dumb take! Never change HF. Guess if he was a good ol' canadian boy it would be different.

 

[Soundwave]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1848014682629591358

https://x.com/i/web/status/1848015078622159076

https://x.com/i/web/status/1848015956397666498

Oilers process is good; top 10 defence even. It's the goaltending, finishing and special teams that are killing them. They are getting PDOd some kind of miserably. The finishing and Special Teams in particular can improve a ton. Still think we would be doing better if our goalies weren't playing so poorly.

Wouldn't be a GSAA chart without an Oilers goalie or both near the bottom.

Holland would have got Broberg and Holloway signed.

We were a period away from a cup and Jackson blew it up.

Holland also left us with like $6.5 million in unsuable dead cap and overpaid Nurse by 2 million.

We were always going to lose some players because of his cap mismanagement.

Also roster turn over happens to every team especially those that make the Finals, what are you going to do? Give up because of it? Florida lost like 6-7 players and half their blue line.

 

[Soundwave]

I really think getting Kostin back would cover a large part of the Holloway loss. He can score in our system and is more physical, can fight, likes the city, has speed, former 1st round pick and is still only 25 years old for a team that has too many 30+ players and the cost of reacquiring him wouldn't be that high.

For a team that's let multiple 20 somethings walk out the door, what's wrong with getting one back that we poached from another team that actually worked out?

Also asking Evander Kane to come off like 6 different surgeries to step back into the roster and do all the physical stuff right away (he may not even be back until the playoffs pretty likely), isn't exactly fair either.

 

[Oilhawks]

Such a classic dumb take! Never change HF. Guess if he was a good ol' canadian boy it would be different.

Honestly, this is the dumb take. If anything, Broberg would have had an inside track due to management drafting the player. Putting up 43 points in his 22 year old season probably didn’t hurt (vs Broberg struggling to make the team yet again for his 22 year old season).

 

[Stealth1616]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1848014682629591358

https://x.com/i/web/status/1848015078622159076

https://x.com/i/web/status/1848015956397666498

Oilers process is good; top 10 defence even. It's the goaltending, finishing and special teams that are killing them. They are getting PDOd some kind of miserably. The finishing and Special Teams in particular can improve a ton. Still think we would be doing better if our goalies weren't playing so poorly.

I can’t even fathom what it would be like to have a guy like Shestorkin in net every game knowing that majority of the time he will just be solid and will make stops when needed. And more then often straight up steal hockey games

 

[FanOfSadTeam]

Skinner as I've said a million times is not the answer. Not consistent. Rarely if ever steals games.

 

[brentashton]

Inflation sucks.

I was pricing based on the quantity that was delivered in the single post.

 

[Soundwave]

Skinner as I've said a million times is not the answer. Not consistent. Rarely if ever steals games.

If he takes no steps forward in his game and continues to remain a mediocre goalie for GSAA, yeah think we'd have to look for a 3rd goalie.

Maybe even taking a flyer on a guy like Lukas Dostal (I recall he stoned us hard one game). At least give yourself an option.

 

[Soundwave]

I can’t even fathom what it would be like to have a guy like Shestorkin in net every game knowing that majority of the time he will just be solid and will make stops when needed. And more then often straight up steal hockey games

We'd have 1 or 2 Cups already with a goalie like that.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Who are some RHD candidates to pair with Nurse long term? Ideally we pull off something similar to the Ekholm trade and get a solid RHD for 3+ years out of the deal.

 

[Kolja]

Honestly, this is the dumb take. If anything, Broberg would have had an inside track due to management drafting the player. Putting up 43 points in his 22 year old season probably didn’t hurt (vs Broberg struggling to make the team yet again for his 22 year old season).

Poor asset management. Over and over and over again.

Never been this disinterested in the team. Fells like blackhawks after they singed a bunch of old guys to mega contracts.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

I was pricing based on the quantity that was delivered in the single post.

Whomever you were responding to is on my naughty list so I didn’t see all the expletives but if we’re having to put into an HFOil swear jar now then I’m royally f***ed.

 

[Broberg Speed]

I really think getting Kostin back would cover a large part of the Holloway loss. He can score in our system and is more physical, can fight, likes the city, has speed, former 1st round pick and is still only 25 years old for a team that has too many 30+ players and the cost of reacquiring him wouldn't be that high.

For a team that's let multiple 20 somethings walk out the door, what's wrong with getting one back that we poached from another team that actually worked out?

Also asking Evander Kane to come off like 6 different surgeries to step back into the roster and do all the physical stuff right away (he may not even be back until the playoffs pretty likely), isn't exactly fair either.

Kostin sucks. Would I like to see him as a filler piece if he made 1M? Sure, that's your 12th forward taken care of, who adds toughness to the lineup and has a heavy shot. He isn't a difference maker on an AHL club.

Broberg is a first pairing defenseman... right now. Broberg is a first pairing calibre defenseman and he's only going to get better. What were we trying to accumulate cap space and trade for at the deadline... a second pairing defenseman?

No club with Stanley Cup aspirations give away 23 year old first pairing defensemen for nothing.

Who are some RHD candidates to pair with Nurse long term? Ideally we pull off something similar to the Ekholm trade and get a solid RHD for 3+ years out of the deal.

Stop trying to find Nurse a partner... put that hockey blunder on the third pairing already. Nurse should be an afterthought now. He's our 9.25M musclehead.

We lost Broberg because he was the wrong handed shot to play with Nurse... because Nurse can't play hockey. That's not the way to construct a hockey club in a sensible world.