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[McTonyBrar]

Nurse is coming back tomorrow and EDM will find a dman some time (even thought the D has been good over 90% of the time besides shit shows like last night)

I personally think Gibson would need retention obviously, but he has been on a garbage team and is 31, not 38. Think people underestimate what a goalie who is actually good can do on a new team with a new mindset

I have no clue how you guys think this D core is good? Yeah when its on, it plays well. But look at how bad it got after one top 4 Dman got injured. There is no depth and there is also no puck movement after the first pair. The D gets caved in when Bouchard, Ekholm or Nurse are not on the ice

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Dostal playing so well in front of that Ducks team means we shouldn’t just assume Gibson sucks cause of his team. Rookie no name Dostal has proven you can play in front of that team and get results.

His numbers will drop as the season progresses. Gibson usually fades later in the season as well if I remember correctly.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

I have no clue how you guys think this D core is good? Yeah when its on, it plays well. But look at how bad it got after one top 4 Dman got injured. There is no depth and there is also no puck movement after the first pair. The D gets caved in when Bouchard, Ekholm or Nurse are not on the ice

Who disagrees? They have been playing much better than expected as a whole. EDM has made it clear they are looking for a dman.

Doesn't matter though when you have swiss cheese behind them.

 

[Slats432]

I don't think the devil we know is good enough. My problem is the last time Gibson showed he was elite was 2018-19 and we have zero idea if he would be better than what we have. Younger, better numbers even this year, expiring contract and much cheaper Blackwood is a more enticing gamble to me, more than Gibson for three more years at 50% ($3.2). Blackwood at full pop is $2.35. With a late pick for a 3rd team to take half, you could probably be into Blackwood at $1.175.

 

[Tarus]

This would have been more interesting two years ago when he was getting blitzed by a record number of shots, but was still top 10 in high danger save percentage. Not sure it's worth the risk these days.

Still two years left at 6.4 mill on the cap too, tough to justify fitting that contract in given the uncertainty of his ability to perform at a high level now.

 

[TheNumber4]

His numbers will drop as the season progresses. Gibson usually fades later in the season as well if I remember correctly.

Maybe. Didn’t Dostal goalie us and we were all like who’s this kid and why’s he so good.

 

[McTonyBrar]

I don't think the devil we know is good enough. My problem is the last time Gibson showed he was elite was 2018-19 and we have zero idea if he would be better than what we have. Younger, better numbers even this year, expiring contract and much cheaper Blackwood is a more enticing gamble to me, more than Gibson for three more years at 50% ($3.2). Blackwood at full pop is $2.35. With a late pick for a 3rd team to take half, you could probably be into Blackwood at $1.175.

But he's also been on a bad time since then and, lets face it, he has no motivation to even try with Anaheim. We've had interest in Gibson before and this is an opportunity for a fresh start for him and for Skinner. People keep forgetting how old Gibson is. He's 31!

 

[CanadasTeam99]

But he's also been on a bad time since then and, lets face it, he has no motivation to even try with Anaheim. We've had interest in Gibson before and this is an opportunity for a fresh start for him and for Skinner. People keep forgetting how old Gibson is. He's 31!

This is the crux with gibson and what some managers are thinking. Did Anaheim break him? lol. All of that losing.

Can he step it up a level on a contender?

I still laugh at people who say 'I don't know if X goalie is better than what we have". Like how can you not be better than last?

Compared to Skinner, Gibson has had to make 200-400 more saves a year

 

[Heavy Dee]

I’m slightly worried our management just likes Skinner as a person and aren’t seeing clear here.

It's not like it's even a surprise.

 

[McTonyBrar]

This is the crux with gibson and what some managers are thinking. Did Anaheim break him? lol. All of that losing.

Can he step it up a level on a contender?

I still laugh at people who say 'I don't know if X goalie is better than what we have". Like how can you not be better than last?

Compared to Skinner, Gibson has had to make 200-400 more saves a year

Plus, being on a better team that just made the SCF is going to motivate him and he can find his groove again. Just do this damn trade

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Plus, being on a better team that just made the SCF is going to motivate him and he can find his groove again. Just do this damn trade

Yeah, that worked great for Jeff Skinner, Arvidsson, et al.

Just say no as long as Schwartz is here.

 

[Zerotonine]

Is staffuer been saying anything in the goaltending front on his shows?

If not obviously he has been told from higher up not to bring attention to the biggest fking hole in the team cuz that will obviously bring heat in Schwartz lolol

 

[McTonyBrar]

Is staffuer been saying anything in the goaltending front on his shows?

If not obviously he has been told from higher up not to bring attention to the biggest fking hole in the team cuz that will obviously bring heat in Schwartz lolol

Nope not once. Lets see what he says today

 

[CupofOil]

The outline for the roster post deadline:

Henrique-McDavid-Hyman
Kane-Drai-Arvidsson
RNH-(Trade)-Podkolzin
Janmark-Philp-Brown
Perry

Ekholm-Bouchard
Nurse-(Trade)
Kulak-Emberson
Stetcher

Skinner/(Trade)

RNH will still be in the top 6, we should just come to terms with that. Hopefully he improves to normal levels or starts doing.....anything.

The player I don't see a fit for is Skinner when Kane returns, he's not the type of guy you want on a 3rd line and the top 6 seems pretty set assuming that Kane is anywhere close to his old healthy self. Still need him around for depth scoring but I'd rather use his money to bring in a more conventional 3rd liner.

 

[TheNumber4]

RNH will still be in the top 6, we should just come to terms with that. Hopefully he improves to normal levels.

The player I don't see a fit for is Skinner when Kane returns, he's not the type of guy you want on a 3rd line and the top 6 seems pretty set assuming that Kane is anywhere close to his old healthy self. Still need him around for depth scoring but I'd rather use his money to bring in a more conventional 3rd liner.

Jeff Skinner for Mcleod. Who says no? The Sabres.

 

[Soundwave]

This would have been more interesting two years ago when he was getting blitzed by a record number of shots, but was still top 10 in high danger save percentage. Not sure it's worth the risk these days.

Still two years left at 6.4 mill on the cap too, tough to justify fitting that contract in given the uncertainty of his ability to perform at a high level now.

I think you kinda got to think about it if you can get some salary retained.

If he finds his game, well then, you probably win a Cup, the top-end of his game is really good, he's been stuck on really bad teams.

Honestly I'd think about send Henrique back the other way to cover some salary. His role is less vital than having a good goaltender in net and he and his wife get to enjoy SoCal again.

 

[frag2]

I’m slightly worried our management just likes Skinner as a person and aren’t seeing clear here.

That's probably it. Plus, this team and city loves a 'good' narrative: Edmonton born player playing for the Oilers, taking team to finals etc etc

 

[Ritchie Valens]

This is the Oilers. Gibson would pull his Jello groin slipping on ice walking into the rink and be gone for the season. Injury prone players tend to become injury-plagued when they join this club. That’s why Arvidsson was such a huge gamble and here we are with him.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

It's not like it's even a surprise.

Yep. Everything and I mean everything points to goaltending being a huge issue. Cup contenders can’t have goaltending that is regularly sitting at the bottom of the league.

Jackson said they want to be one of the best run organizations in the league. Top notch analytics, scouting etc… yet they apparently can’t identify an issue the rest of the hockey world has.

 

[frag2]

It's not like it's even a surprise.

IIRC, even with the 16 game win streak, Skinner couldn't even break even on that list

 

[Ritchie Valens]

That's probably it. Plus, this team and city loves a 'good' narrative: Edmonton born player playing for the Oilers, taking team to finals etc etc

Just like Grant Fuhr. Similar numbers too, except an .880 was considered decent in that time and had you in the running for the Vezina .

 

[McTonyBrar]

This is the Oilers. Gibson would pull his Jello groin slipping on ice walking into the rink and be gone for the season. Injury prone players tend to become injury-plagued when they join this club. That’s why Arvidsson was such a huge gamble and here we are with him.

I didn't know Arvidsson was on LTIR. He missed a few games and they decided to not play him Saturday so he can fully recover..

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

This is the Oilers. Gibson would pull his Jello groin slipping on ice walking into the rink and be gone for the season. Injury prone players tend to become injury-plagued when they join this club. That’s why Arvidsson was such a huge gamble and here we are with him.

Vegas and TB turned injury prone into cap circumvention.

 

[Slats432]

But he's also been on a bad time since then and, lets face it, he has no motivation to even try with Anaheim. We've had interest in Gibson before and this is an opportunity for a fresh start for him and for Skinner. People keep forgetting how old Gibson is. He's 31!

So you are advocating to acquire a player that is a professional making $6.4M a year has no motivation to try? If any player has no motivation to try, then I don't want them in any circumstance.

 

[Tarus]

I think you kinda got to think about it if you can get some salary retained.

If he finds his game, well then, you probably win a Cup, the top-end of his game is really good, he's been stuck on really bad teams.

Honestly I'd think about send Henrique back the other way to cover some salary. His role is less vital than having a good goaltender in net and he and his wife get to enjoy SoCal again.

It's not just this year though, it's the next two years. With Mcdavid's contract coming up, even with the rising cap, every dollar has to be counted going forward. Anaheim might be willing to retain, but probably not as much as the Oilers would need them to.

Sure, the upside is there and maybe it nets a cup, but you also risk getting an aging washed up goaltender which could completely scuttle the cup window too. The Oilers don't have the cap flexibility to absorb another bomb of a contract at the goaltending position after the Campbell debacle.

Either way, I'm glad I don't have to make the decision if the Oilers decide to be interested in the player. Whoever makes the call will be betting not only their future employment with the franchise(and maybe the league), but also whether Mcdavid signs a new contract or not in the next two years.