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[KCC]

This is my best guess as to what the opening roster will look like... taking into account the cap space considerations, waiver exempt status of players as well as cap hits of players.


Kane-McDavid-Brown
RHN-Drai-Hyman
Janmark-McLeod ($2.1 million)-Foegele
Pederson-Ryan-Lavoie

Forwards $45,924,125

Nurse-Ceci
Ekholm-Bouchard ($3.5 million)
Kulak-Desharnais
Niemelainen

Dmen $26,275,000

Campbell
Skinner

Goalies $7,600,000

Dead cap and bonus carryover $2,766,667

Total cap: $82,565,792
Cap limit: $83,500,000

Under cap limit by $934,208

They start with a 21 man roster.


This gives the team the option of accruing cap until the deadline OR calling up either Broberg ($866,333) or Holloway ($925,000) at any time (as they are waivers exempt) and there is enough space to accommodate one of them on the roster to run a 22 man squad.


Of course they could start with both Broberg and Holloway on the roster instead of Pederson and Niemelainen BUT that would mean they would have a 21 man roster with only $680,375 in cap space... not enough to run a 22 man roster.

Oof. edm’s bottom 6 took a huge step back. Losing 2 big bodies in kostin and bjugstad hurts. maybe holland can do something at the trade deadline.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Oof. edm’s bottom 6 took a huge step back. Losing 2 big bodies in kostin and bjugstad hurts. maybe holland can do something at the trade deadline.

If Pederson is one of our starters opening night? I will be gravely concerned

 

[Oilers in NS]

He’s American.

Put him there anyway. Only spot he will be playing next is KHL

 

[McDrai]

If Pederson is one of our starters opening night? I will be gravely concerned

That will be another Will Acton scenario

 

[OilerTyler]

That will be another Will Acton scenario

I don't think anything can match the Will Acton scenario. He was a third liner in the AHL and only ever got a sniff because his dad was a coach. At least Peterson is a really good AHL player and has cracked NHL rosters on his own merit (although never a good NHL roster).

 

[North]

Kane’s reputation came from a money stack photo and wearing track suits to games when he was young. Then the crazy, liar ex thing happened and people try to run with it to justify what a bad guy Kane is. Since he’s been an Oiler he’s been nothing but a class act.

That’s not entirely true. There were a couple of unfortunate incidents in Buffalo.

One at a nightclub. He was charged for that one and I if I recall correctly a deal was made that if he kept out of trouble for a certain amount of time they wouldn’t move forward with the case.

I may be misremembering some of the details on that one but he definitely did some things he shouldn’t have.

I’m glad he’s turning his life around but he definitely made some poor choices in the past.

 

[sepHF]

Oof. edm’s bottom 6 took a huge step back. Losing 2 big bodies in kostin and bjugstad hurts. maybe holland can do something at the trade deadline.

I don't think they have any choice besides upgrading at the trade deadline

 

[McDNicks17]

If Pederson is one of our starters opening night? I will be gravely concerned

I wouldn't worry about that.

With the way the roster is right now, I'd say there's a giant red neon flashing sign saying Woodcroft plans to run 11-7 again.

 

[McShogun99]

I wouldn't worry about that.

With the way the roster is right now, I'd say there's a giant red neon flashing sign saying Woodcroft plans to run 11-7 again.

I’d rather we go 12-6 to cut down McDrai’s minutes so they’re both fresher for the playoffs.

 

[McDNicks17]

I’d rather we go 12-6 to cut down McDrai’s minutes so they’re both fresher for the playoffs.

I would too, but going this long without signing an NHL level #4C is basically the writing on the wall to me.

 

[Faelko]

I would too, but going this long without signing an NHL level #4C is basically the writing on the wall to me.

That and wanting Broberg and Desharnais to get minutes screams 11-7 to me as well.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Oof. edm’s bottom 6 took a huge step back. Losing 2 big bodies in kostin and bjugstad hurts. maybe holland can do something at the trade deadline.

Kostin sure but Holloway may even be better than him. Bjugstad played for 12-15 games lol

 

[YakDavid]

Oof. edm’s bottom 6 took a huge step back. Losing 2 big bodies in kostin and bjugstad hurts. maybe holland can do something at the trade deadline.

Huge is a stretch. Considering Woodcroft likes playing with 9 forwards there really is one body to fill. You would think Kostin potted 20 with the way people here are acting like we are gonna miss him. Realistically Holloway or Lavoie has a good chance in filling the hole.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Huge is a stretch. Considering Woodcroft likes playing with 9 forwards there really is one body to fill. You would think Kostin potted 20 with the way people here are acting like we are gonna miss him. Realistically Holloway or Lavoie has a good chance in filling the hole.

It's almost as if some people saw value in his physical play as well.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

It's almost as if some people saw value in his physical play as well.

Sure, but not $2M worth of value

 

[brentashton]

Huge is a stretch. Considering Woodcroft likes playing with 9 forwards there really is one body to fill. You would think Kostin potted 20 with the way people here are acting like we are gonna miss him. Realistically Holloway or Lavoie has a good chance in filling the hole.

Kostin scored 11 goals in 57 games in limited WoodShaft minutes. So yes, he has the potential to be just what you describe. That probably plays a part in why some folks do beleive this club will miss a guy like that in the bottom six, along with his other valuable attributes. Lavoie doesn’t play the same type of game as Kostin so no way he fills that hole and Holloway, well we can hope…

 

[nexttothemoon]

Sure, but not $2M worth of value

My guess is that if there was a poll here... it would be a pretty decent split between people who would want Kostin at $2 million for 2 years vs McLeod at $2 million for 2 years (if you could only choose one or the other).

 

[brentashton]

My guess is that if there was a poll here... it would be a pretty decent split between people who would want Kostin at $2 million for 2 years vs McLeod at $2 million for 2 years (if you could only choose one or the other).

Sadly that ship has sailed. And we will still be paying 2M for a guy that has about the same production but plays a much smaller game.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

My guess is that if there was a poll here... it would be a pretty decent split between people who would want Kostin at $2 million for 2 years vs McLeod at $2 million for 2 years (if you could only choose one or the other).

Sure, doesn't make him worth it

 

[Anarchism]

This top heavy team has become even more top end dependent....
Back to trying to win 6-5 instead of winning 4-2.
Were still good enough to be top 8.

 

[duul]

Feels like a lot of people forget Kostin and McLeod are the same age. Difference being McLeod got drafted to a team with a horrendous bottom 6 while Kostin got drafted to a team winning Cups and pushing with an extremely deep lineup up until recently. One of them was given far more opportunity than the other.

I’m someone who would take Kostin over McLeod in a heartbeat at the same salary, and now it’s looking like McLeod is going to cost us even more than what Klim got while (in my opinion) providing significantly less for a team who is trying to win playoff games.

The people talking about McLeod and potential need to look at Klim the same way. Watching him build confidence over the year and begin showing physical dominance all over the rink was special. With a bit more confidence in his role, he could become a real solid middle 6 type of guy. I don’t think I can say the same about mcleod — RNH lite lite lite.

 

[Mcnotloilersfan]

This top heavy team has become even more top end dependent....
Back to trying to wind 6-5 instead of winning 4-2.
Were still good enough to be top 8.

Our bottom 6 was solid last year. And if anything, our biggest needs are still 'top' as in a 2nd pair dman, and a sure-fire starting goalie

 

[Anarchism]

Our bottom 6 was solid last year. And if anything, our biggest needs are still 'top' as in a 2nd pair dman, and a sure-fire starting goalie

Desi need to be number 7 and a good vet in his place, then a goalie would be nice and a good 3C to control that line and clear. Its still possible but harder now and more expensive in assets than if the move(s) were make two weeks ago or more.

 

[McTonyBrar]

It's almost as if some people saw value in his physical play as well.

Then why did he play so little in the playoffs?

 

[Tobias Kahun]

It's almost as if some people saw value in his physical play as well.

Its almost if some people also saw how inconsistent he was, he had 2 good stretches and was missing for the other 46 games he played for us.